[SUPRA]

Gustav, please see my question above. Thanks.

 

[M V10]

Gustav, is my understanding correct?

This RS6 (on stock 20") also raced a tuned M5 sedan on 19" with Dinan exhaust + ECU and won.

Yes, the understanding is correct! I drove against that same M5 and the difference was about 1 carlength 50-270 km/h, but as I mentioned before my car hit the limiter for about 4-5 seconds before the end.

The M5 was behind the RS6 by approx 2 carlengths and started to level out the gap when we reached 240 km/h, and I was just slightly catching up from 240-270 km/h and then hit the limiter.

I don´t know how the RS6 will performe in the heat, maybe in the summer it will be slower but in this cold wether and for every day driving, the RS6 was and is faster to 240 km/h!

If it was a race 50-300 km/h the M5 would have won but this day and this race, the RS6 was faster, no doubt about it.

 

[SUPRA]

Yes yes Supra, I won't deny making those comments. My request is for a run for a bone stock M5 vs. a bone stock RS6.

Gustav - can I make this a request for the next run?

No need for a re-run then, except for fun.

As you can see the RS6 on 20" was also faster than the tuned M5 on 19".

T Bone, care to comment?

 

[T Bone]

No need for a re-run then, except for fun.

As you can see the RS6 on 20" was also faster than the tuned M5 on 19".

T Bone, care to comment?

The M5 is not running stock wheels that could affect acceleration. The RS6 comes with 20" wheels stock.

 

[Mori]

The M5 is not running stock wheels that could affect acceleration. The RS6 comes with 20" wheels stock.

The RS6 is on 19s stock. 20s are a 1800 euro option. Read the comment from Gustav regarding the slightly modded M5 on 19" wheels vs. the same RS6.

 

[Tom C]

The M5 is not running stock wheels that could affect acceleration. The RS6 comes with 20" wheels stock.

Seriously...can an M ever just be the slower car???... I guess you have selective vision and missed the post debunking your factually impaired editorial...

Tom

 

[Gustav]

However the fact is that the RS6 was stock and the M5 was not, possibly affecting it's performance. Also, starting in 1st gear wasn't optimal and Ill ty to upload a race where we started from 1st gear.

Seriously...can an M ever just be the slower car???... I guess you have selective vision and missed the post debunking your factually impaired editorial...

Tom

 

[logpak23]

why don't you run a mtm rs6, which is supposedly faster to 300 kph, than an SLR.

 

[logpak23]

i have a 2008 M5, alpine white, with 20"inch Hartge Classic 2 rims, in black with red outeline... and all, exterior and interior are carbon made by CA Automotive in UK...

I´m an experienced trackday and race driver... Racing 4 hours Endurance race in a Ferrari 360 Challenge...

I was hired one day at the track to drive around with people, in their cars, and one came to me, this is about 45 days ago, and asked if i would try his RS6, Brandnew... on the track, i can say, it is VERY,VERY heavy in corners, and quick on straights, but a fine compromis between a racecar or a family car it will never be like the M5, which is much more fun on a track, than the RS6 is, The Audi is a very fast familiar luxus car, but forget it on a track... its not even fun...

And i raced an RS6, in my Corvette Z06, and the Audi couldnt follow, AT ALL...

I also have a 135 I, with 270 hp, and 530 NM, and a RS 6 killer, in my BMW 323 TI, with 3,2 M3 engine and a GT35 turbo, 470 HP, and 550 nm from 2500 to 7500 rpm´s to 1250 KG... it can keep up with the corvettet from a rolling start... funny litlle thing...

well, why dont you run against an mtm rs6, and did you ever think of the fact that the rs6 wieghs a ton, but runs like hell

 

[SUPRA]

The M5 is not running stock wheels that could affect acceleration. The RS6 comes with 20" wheels stock.

You seem to be the only one not understanding.
The RS6 is on 19" stock. 20" is an option.

The was also a run with the same RS6 (still on optional 20") vs. a BMW M5 with 19" (just like you asked for), plus it had Dinan exhaust + ECU.

Unfortunately, as you can see from other eye witnesses who wrote in this thread, that BMW M5 also lost. But you could always blame it on Dinan.

Note: Depending on market, either 19" or 20" is stock/option on the RS6.
In Germany, 19" is stock. In the UK/Sweden 20" is stock according to the Audi websites, just checked.

The RS6 is on 19s stock. 20s are a 1800 euro option. Read the comment from Gustav regarding the slightly modded M5 on 19" wheels vs. the same RS6.

Thank you.

 

[Gumball_Nut]

Like I mentioned before. Do a proper compairison with Avant vs Touring, Stock vs Stock. If you bring tuned into it then that RS6 will not been seen for dead if the numbers by autobild are correct.

 

[Ian_01M5]

true the rs6 is very fast but I think this test is just a bit off.
Why: your fighting the rs6 at his best level. from the low revs the rs6 had more torque. also if you would do it from a standing start it would be harder for the rs6. due to his quattro system and weight it would have a much harder time to beat the M5.
But i will admit its a very fast car

Very true,the RS6 is poor off the line.There is a video on Drivers Republic where they line up against a C63-the C63 destroyed it to the 1/4!

 

[Gustav]

Gumballnut, we raced two M5s one of a chipped and Dinan exhaust sedan otherwise stock was beaten by the RS6 so naturally a stock M5 Touring would be beaten.

I personally beleive that the RS6 benefitted greatly of the cold air and cold weather that day.

 

[Gumball_Nut]

Well as the turbo's do LOVE the cold weather that is not any doubt. But my little jibe was at T Bone where he's saying that the M5 being on 20"s hurt it that a stock wheel M5 should've run against it. I mearly suggested that if he wanted it to be fair then surely run the avant vs the touring?

 

[T Bone]

Seriously...can an M ever just be the slower car???... I guess you have selective vision and missed the post debunking your factually impaired editorial...

Tom

Relax. It is clear the RS6 was faster, I just want to see the M5 run in stock form which means 19" wheels.

Having bigger wheels could have an impact on acceleration.

It is always easy to pick a winner after a race sport.

 

[Gustav]

T Bone, that video will come .We di da race with the Sepang Bronze M5. Regardless, the RS6 benefitted from the cold air that day.

 

[T Bone]

You seem to be the only one not understanding.
The RS6 is on 19" stock. 20" is an option.

The was also a run with the same RS6 (still on optional 20") vs. a BMW M5 with 19" (just like you asked for), plus it had Dinan exhaust + ECU.

Unfortunately, as you can see from other eye witnesses who wrote in this thread, that BMW M5 also lost. But you could always blame it on Dinan.

Note: Depending on market, either 19" or 20" is stock/option on the RS6.
In Germany, 19" is stock. In the UK/Sweden 20" is stock according to the Audi websites, just checked.



Thank you.

It is clear that Audi won, I hope they are proud that they beat a 4 year old car with 80 less horsepower. A great accomplishment.

No one is saying the RS6 didn't win, Cazorp and I want to see the RS6 vs. a stock M5.

 

[Mori]

Regardless, the RS6 benefitted from the cold air that day.

I personally beleive that the RS6 benefitted greatly of the cold air and cold weather that day.

One thing to take into consideration is that the weather was cold: around 5-10 degrees Celsius that benefited the twin turbocharged RS6.

But I would say the difference should not have been his large in the summer since at thsi run it was quite cold, between 5-10 degrees benefetting the turbocharged cars.

What could have affected th eoutcome to the RS6 advantage is that it was very cold, between 5 and 10 degrees Celsius. I do not beleive an RS6 or RS6 Avant could replicate this a summer day.

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[Tom C]

It is clear that Audi won, I hope they are proud that they beat a 4 year old car with 80 less horsepower. A great accomplishment.

No one is saying the RS6 didn't win, Cazorp and I want to see the RS6 vs. a stock M5.

Now you are sounding like a W210 E55 owner when the E39 M5 came out... :eek7:

It seems as though fanboys can't give the other mfg's credit where it is due...

Tom

 

[Gustav]

Did I me ntion that the RS6 benefitted GREATLY from the cold air :thumbsup: :7:

Next shootout: where it is in VERY hot weather :1:

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