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Engine vibration after rebuild

9K views 15 replies 10 participants last post by  herrubermensch  
#1 ·
After rebuilding my friend's 1999 S62 following the not uncommon problem of a bearing and big end conrod failure we are not able to diagnose an engine vibration which kicks in at 1200rpm. The following are our best guesses in order of our opinion of most likely cause:
1. Unbalanced flywheel/new pressure plate (just removed and balanced and replaced with no effect on vibration)
2. Engine mount problem (checked and not apparently the cause of vibration)
3. Throttle body balance (not yet performed due to unavailability of balancing tool - not even the dealer has one)
4. Con rod imbalance (not likely as new con rod was matched for weight with other 7)
5. Running out of ideas - anyone have any suggestions?

Note that the rebuild was done professionally and engine runs very smoothly at idle and otherwise EXCEPT for the 1200 - 1500 rpm vibration which tend to carry over into throttle over-run suggeting possibility that it is NOT a throttle body balance issue.

Also engine has more power and runs better than before the rebuild.

Look forward to the board's vast experience to solve this one.

Whammy:1zhelp:
 
#2 ·
if it makes you feel better, my previous 1999 540 had the EXACT same vibration and I never did figure it out. My 1998 does not have it.

I had found a few posts on bimmerforums.com with the exact same symptoms; alas, no resolutions were ever reported.
 
#6 ·
Vantaam5,
Vibration is from the engine itself. Not possible to locate which part of the engine as no noise associated with the vibration. Next thing we are going to check is harmonic balancer (damper) and water pump etc by taking all belts off.
Thanks for your interest.
 
#5 ·
Oil Filter Mount and/or pipework.

Exhaust Mounts

Vibration Damper (Harmonic Damper)

Water Pump

Good Luck !
 
#11 ·
you feel this vibration revving the car at a standstill? vibrations like these usually exibit themselves in multiples of the problem rpm range. ie if you feel it at 1500 then you will feel it again at 3000 etc. unfortunately i believe this is just and issue with resonance in the engine and there is nothing that will fix it. there are certain engine configurations that just cannot be balanced perfectly. a 4cyl engine is a prime example, because of the way the engine fires it cannot be balanced prefectly. a v8 is basically two 4cyl's together so it exibits the same issue.
 
#12 ·
M5 Sydney and others who were so helpful,
I know this is 7 years late but the problem was crank shaft balance. It wasn't rebalanced with the rebuild because there was no sign of vibration beforehand.
Yes, the solution was to take out the crank and balance (ouch!). After that the engine has run strong and faultless (touch wood) for 150K km.
Engine rebuild was done by BEMW at Castle Hill. Could not recommend highly enough. Speak to Mark for any M5 issues.

w
 
#13 ·
Wow. Congrats on fixing the problem (even though a big ouch $$$). Thank you very much for posting in the thread for others to see!

Regards
 
#15 ·
Tim,
I see your car has high mileage like mine. I have had the car since 80K km in 2007 and now has 250K km. Engine rebuild was at 110K km. I continue to be amazed at this car and it's strength of design both in drivetrain and chassis.
It has even been reborn as my race car for amateur events. Virtually nothing needed to be done to the car for this transformation although I have fitted Bilstein PSS9s all round and it already had Dinan rear bar, camber plates and front strut brace. Still doubles as a spare road car!


w
 
#16 ·
Reading this thread from the beginning for the first time tonight, the first thing I thought of was that the crankshaft was out of balance. It is something that is so easy to get right, and so expensive to get wrong, when doing a rebuild. Glad you figured it out, but so sorry to have been so expensive a fix.

--Peter