[Z3 M Roadster]

That LCI oddments tray looks OEM, great job!

BTW I had an opportunity to weigh the clutch and flywheel options, not much of a saving using the S65 combo but I guess it depends on what your looking for.

 

[flacoramos]

Interesting that both smg and 6mt S85 options weigh exactly the same - 51.2lbs. @desmo01 indicated this is tuned for vibration etc so here's evidence of that. Of course it's inertia but that can't be measured with a scale.

 

[desmo01]

A trifilar pendulum could be used...

 

[maikls]

here’s what the LCI oddments tray looks like all finished up. I need to work on making the finishing process not take ages but very happy with the result and another car being swapped

Hi, would You be interested to sell two LCI oddments trays? Thank You.

 

[jakkuh]

Hello! Any interest in selling one of these? Thanks!

Hi, would You be interested to sell two LCI oddments trays? Thank You.

Yup. DM me or email sales at euromod.ca

 

[jakkuh]

PS for the manual folks out there, having been disappointed in the AutoSolutions short shifter I bought, I, with the help of @sreten from M539 Restorations, convinced Rogue Engineering to recreate their E6x M5/M6 short shifter along with making a brand new DSSR for it!

Please, if you’re interested, check it out! I need to convince him it was worth the production cost with a few orders 😂

DSSR - $129
Short Shifter Kit - $349 (includes DSSR)
Rebuildable Selector Rod Joint - $79

 

[El_Jaco]

Yup. DM me or email sales at euromod.ca

I'm trying to get enough posts that I have the ability to DM. Thanks for making these, I am acquiring parts to do a swap, so far I only have an illuminated OEM shift knob I am a potential tray buyer!

 

[Gearheadx77]

PS for the manual folks out there, having been disappointed in the AutoSolutions short shifter I bought, I, with the help of @sreten from M539 Restorations, convinced Rogue Engineering to recreate their E6x M5/M6 short shifter along with making a brand new DSSR for it!

Please, if you’re interested, check it out! I need to convince him it was worth the production cost with a few orders 😂

DSSR - $129
Short Shifter Kit - $349 (includes DSSR)
Rebuildable Selector Rod Joint - $79

Nice work. Any reason this wouldn't fit an E61 M5 with converted tranny? I have the illuminated shift knob off the F10, which I'd like to retain.

Thanks

 

[jakkuh]

Nice work. Any reason this wouldn't fit an E61 M5 with converted tranny? I have the illuminated shift knob off the F10, which I'd like to retain. Thanks

I don't see why not, so long as it uses the same selector rod and shifter PN as an E60 M5 or M6. Works with stock knobs yup!

 

[Gearheadx77]

Yeah the tranny is the ZF out of the E90/92 and all the components are OEM (except the TTV flywheel). Sounds like it'd work.

 

[jakkuh]

Oops, another update for manual folks! Clutch stops!

BMW discontinued the thin rubber bumper that acts as a clutch stop on E6x M5/M6 manual cars, so while I originally used a high density foam tape here I’ve now designed a simple 3D printable clutch stop.

I made up a few different thicknesses when trying to decide what I liked best, and they just pop into the same slot the OEM ones do (with the help of a little windex!), reducing the gargantuan stock clutch pedal throw.

After a comical amount of tinkering with the density and material choice, I’ve been running the current revision in my car for around 6 months and it still looks and feels like new so I’m confident enough to offer them up to other folks who are interested.

$50 for a set of 3 different thickness stops so you can adjust to your preference, which covers my time and material cost. DM or email (sales at euromod.ca) if interested!

 

[Gearheadx77]

What material are they made of?

 

[amesser325]

Yeah the tranny is the ZF out of the E90/92 and all the components are OEM (except the TTV flywheel). Sounds like it'd work.

It'll work. I used all factory E60 6MT parts (and a Z3M shifter) for my E61 build.

 

[GeorgeH]

PS for the manual folks out there, having been disappointed in the AutoSolutions short shifter I bought, I, with the help of @sreten from M539 Restorations, convinced Rogue Engineering to recreate their E6x M5/M6 short shifter along with making a brand new DSSR for it!

Please, if you’re interested, check it out! I need to convince him it was worth the production cost with a few orders 😂

What were your issues with the AS SSK?

I really hate REs new 2 piece DSSRs, any chance this lever works with a stock selector rod?

 

[roguem5]

Interesting subject.. I always wanted to do the swap.

To answer some question in this thread, the e60 m5 uses the 545 manual trans with some different components like a different face where it attaches to the engine and a different clutch.

Dealerships are known to just replace the whole SMG unit which costs a lot. Famous problems in the E60 m5 and the m6 are:

- clutch release bearing which is not an SMG problem at all. It's purley a clutch bearing going bad some say due to the bearing not being greased properly!

- failure to fire the engine up due to the car being in gear = the car can't engage 1st gear due to:

1) not enough hydraulic fluid in the sys. There might be a leak. Must find where the leak is coming from.
2) SMG bump might not be working. It's not that hard to replace and part costs around $400!
3) relay goes bad that activates the bump. Never came across it! Known problem in the E46 m3 though, $20 dollar fix!
4) sensors like: clutch position sensor (reads the position of the clutch), pressure sensor (reads the pressure of the SMG fluid).

One good thing about SMG III is that you can buy almost everything separately unlike SMG II $ I. I read that someone had a leak coming from the pressure sensor that goes in the hydraulic unit and had to replace the whole unit cuz it's not available that was an E46 m3! Thank god BMW did something about it.

In short, the smg is not rocket science! It just needs someone who understands it and has the right tools to work on it.

A mechanic told me I needed a new clutch @ 107,xxx miles after chattering & a lite bang when shifting on my 06 SMG M5. I got the OEM clutch assembly, flywheel & new release bearing with pivot, installed it & low & behold, the old clutch had plenty of meat left & the flywheel had only slight chatter marks on it. It was the release bearing that was failing to slide properly on the tranny input shaft collar. I saw that there was a new cryo treated non stick coated collar & the release bearing was upgraded as well as the pivot. These parts need no grease and will not collect any clutch dust to clog the bearing riding on the collar that create false clutch failure signs. Glad I did some reach on that way back when. Clutch has 56,xxx miles on it with zero issues. Also important is to program the clutch for releasing after after parts replacement. Cheers!

 

[jakkuh]

What were your issues with the AS SSK?

I really hate REs new 2 piece DSSRs, any chance this lever works with a stock selector rod?

It will work with stock selector rod yeah. Not sure why you'd hate the DSSRs they're solid, been a nice shift consistency improvement on my E92 M3.

As for the AS shifter, its all bronze bushing metal on metal which means it transmits noise into the cabin. Less of a problem in an E46, but with how sound deadened an E60 M5 is, it's SUPER obvious. It also has inconsistent shift feel between each gear, the reverse doesn't go all the way in, and still has some play lol.

Also noticed under high load/RPM I was missing shifts with it. I think it's because there's so little give in the assembly with it's metal bushings, that when the engine moves under load, the shifter can't move enough with it and therefore it's in the incorrect location when trying to shift. Same reason those rear poly bushing are crap (unless you have solid engine and tranny mounts) - the shifter needs to move with the engine, if it doesn't, it mucks up the shifter pattern.

Not worth $600 USD for this platform by any stretch, seems like they designed it based off the parts alone and never tried it in a car because it feels like crap... at least to me.

 

[jakkuh]

What material are they made of?

A magician doesn't reveal his tricks! But a rubber-like plastic of a specific hardness.

 

[GeorgeH]

It will work with stock selector rod yeah. Not sure why you'd hate the DSSRs they're solid, been a nice shift consistency improvement on my E92 M3.

RE the AS shifter, its all bronze bushing metal on metal which means it transmits noise into the cabin. Less of a problem in an E46, but with how sound deadened an E60 M5 is, it's SUPER obvious. It also has inconsistent shift feel between each gear, the reverse doesn't go all the way in, and still has some play lol.

Also noticed under high load/RPM I was missing shifts with it. I think it's because there's so little give in the assembly with it's metal bushings, that when the engine moves under load, the shifter can't move enough with it and therefore it's in the incorrect location when trying to shift. Same reason those rear poly bushing are crap (unless you have solid engine and tranny mounts) - the shifter needs to move with the engine, if it doesn't, it mucks up the shifter pattern.

Not worth $600 USD for this platform by any stretch, seems like they designed it based off the parts alone and never tried it in a car because it feels like crap... at least to me.

Thanks for the thorough reply re AS SSK.

As the for the RE DSSR, its just a pain to install, don't like the bolt together setup.

 

[jbash87]

RE the AS shifter, its all bronze bushing metal on metal which means it transmits noise into the cabin.

Bro, you can't use "RE" to abbreviate "regarding" in the same thread where Rogue Engineering is discussed. Dang, was I confused as to why you were both trying to talk up and bash the Rogue DSSR at the same time!

 

[jakkuh]

Thanks for the thorough reply re AS SSK.

As the for the RE DSSR, its just a pain to install, don't like the bolt together setup.

Hmm, as a mechanic, I really appreciated the design since I was able to install it more easily without taking so much crap out. Just lower the transmission on a stand a touch, pull off the heat shielding and you're good to go. It's some small pieces to fiddle with, but the locating pins help a ton, and compared to the DSSRs that aren't open on one side its WAY easier to fit IMO.

The instructions about how tight it needs to be seem to be accurate, so I have no quarrels with it.