[desmo01]

Oh, now this is most unfortunate!

So. You can read the owner's manual, or go by and ask your friendly neighborhood BMW dealer.

 

[Dan-gerous]

Oh, now this is most unfortunate!

So. You can read the owner's manual, or go by and ask your friendly neighborhood BMW dealer.

How is it unfortunate?

 

[ZiMMie]

Hello everyone,

We also offer a solution for those who want true like OE level integration.

A few key points about our setup:

• No CAN hacking or piggyback required. We provide a genuine OE ECU that replaces the original unit, fully equipped to control the DCT transmission.
• OEM Like Type level communication. Processing is handled by the OE ECU, ensuring there are no communication discrepancies during operation.

Main Features:

1. The provided ECU works with the original S85B50 hardware and is tuned for 550 bhp (up from 505 bhp). The tune has been dyno-proven and calibrated in Alpha-N configuration.
2. Diagnostics via INPA or ISTA function normally for both the transmission and engine ECU, just like OE Equiment.
3. Automatic downshifts and upshifts are smooth, without sudden RPM drops that typically cause drivability issues. This includes proper launch mode functionality.
4. Both software and hardware are encrypted to prevent copying. Any tampering will corrupt the ECU. An NDA must be signed by the end user. Each ECU is encoded with unique data to trace back any unauthorized duplication.

This is true OEM-level integration. The basic DCT hardware must be installed, and wiring must be done in the same way as on the S65 M3.

Pricing:

• $4,500 USD
• $200 refund if you send back your OE ECU
• $500 refund if you return an MSS60 ECU from an S65 M3

I’m available for any questions.

Automatic Mode.


Manual Mode

 

[Angrydog]

Lots of good stuff..

Hi ZiMMie, I assume that this wouldn't be suitable for a car running an alternative map already or a supercharged car, as you are replacing the map with one of your own? Massive shame if so

 

[ZiMMie]

Hi ZiMMie, I assume that this wouldn't be suitable for a car running an alternative map already or a supercharged car, as you are replacing the map with one of your own? Massive shame if so

Already mapped cars that wants to reuse their map is possible. although ecu has to be sent to us for map integration.

 

[Angrydog]

Already mapped cars that wants to reuse their map is possible. although ecu has to be sent to us for map integration.

That is certainly an option in that case. The map I will have on my car will be bespoke to it so I'd need to keep that otherwise the engine wouldn't last very long Thanks.

 

[andrew85m5]

Hello everyone,

We also offer a solution for those who want true like OE level integration.

A few key points about our setup:

• No CAN hacking or piggyback required. We provide a genuine OE ECU that replaces the original unit, fully equipped to control the DCT transmission.
• OEM Like Type level communication. Processing is handled by the OE ECU, ensuring there are no communication discrepancies during operation.

Main Features:

1. The provided ECU works with the original S85B50 hardware and is tuned for 550 bhp (up from 505 bhp). The tune has been dyno-proven and calibrated in Alpha-N configuration.
2. Diagnostics via INPA or ISTA function normally for both the transmission and engine ECU, just like OE Equiment.
3. Automatic downshifts and upshifts are smooth, without sudden RPM drops that typically cause drivability issues. This includes proper launch mode functionality.
4. Both software and hardware are encrypted to prevent copying. Any tampering will corrupt the ECU. An NDA must be signed by the end user. Each ECU is encoded with unique data to trace back any unauthorized duplication.

This is true OEM-level integration. The basic DCT hardware must be installed, and wiring must be done in the same way as on the S65 M3.

Pricing:

• $4,500 USD
• $200 refund if you send back your OE ECU
• $500 refund if you return an MSS60 ECU from an S65 M3

I’m available for any questions.

Automatic Mode.


Manual Mode

How are you doing knock control? What other components need to be changed to make it work?

 

[ZiMMie]

How are you doing knock control? What other components need to be changed to make it work?

Just like stock..
All dct components found on the m3

 

[GeorgeH]

We also offer a solution for those who want true like OE level integration.

Awesome!

Couple questions:

• Who is "we"?
• To be clear you are taking the DME and modifying it hardware and software wise make it think its an MSS60 DME in regards to running the DCT transmission?
• You said it has to be wired like a DCT, does that mean a DCT shifter needs to be installed?
• Do you offer a MAF tune?
• Will you offer the option to delete erroneous components like SAP, DMTL, etc for swaps?
• Can any updates be done remotely or will the DME have to be shipped to you?

 

[ZiMMie]

Awesome!

Couple questions:

• Who is "we"?
• To be clear you are taking the DME and modifying it hardware and software wise make it think its an MSS60 DME in regards to running the DCT transmission?
• You said it has to be wired like a DCT, does that mean a DCT shifter needs to be installed?
• Do you offer a MAF tune?
• Will you offer the option to delete erroneous components like SAP, DMTL, etc for swaps?
• Can any updates be done remotely or will the DME have to be shipped to you?

Hi George,

• Who is "we"?

A team of software, hardware, and system integration engineers.

• To be clear you are taking the DME and modifying it hardware and software wise make it think its an MSS60 DME in regards to running the DCT transmission?

Yes

• You said it has to be wired like a DCT, does that mean a DCT shifter needs to be installed?

Yes

• Do you offer a MAF tune?

No, but a Map sensor can be added but its a very small minute percentage of that is used.

• Will you offer the option to delete erroneous components like SAP, DMTL, etc for swaps?

No. To prevent piracy, the ECU will be write-once. Therefore, all hardware modifications must be communicated to us in advance.

• Can any updates be done remotely or will the DME have to be shipped to you?

No see the above answer. all hardware modifications must be communicated to us in advance.

 

[GeorgeH]

• Who is "we"?

A team of software, hardware, and system integration engineers.

Did you do or have a hand in the RatDog M6?

 

[Angrydog]

• Do you offer a MAF tune?

No, but a Map sensor can be added but its a very small minute percentage of that is used.

That is interesting, as the M5/M6 doesn't have a MAP sensor. This could be handy for a supercharged S85.

 

[ZiMMie]

Did you do or have a hand in the RatDog M6?

nope. don't know who that is.

 

[ZiMMie]

That is interesting, as the M5/M6 doesn't have a MAP sensor. This could be handy for a supercharged S85.

A complete onsite calibration is required to ensure optimal integration with a forced induction system.

 

[Angrydog]

A complete onsite calibration is required to ensure optimal integration with a forced induction system.

How do you mean?

My car is supercharged and is going to have a bespoke map created for it, so I assume that this would still be OK? I don't need a MAP sensor as such, was just commenting as for some it could be handy, though the MSS65 cannot see boost iirc.

 

[SeattleAggie]

General question that I guess applies to either ZiMMie's or Dan-gerous, what is the full list of parts that one would need to source for the swap?