I have a few ideas I want to play with on my car. In all my nonexistent spare time, I am looking into a linux CAN logger. Anyone done any work in this area and have anything to share?
Any interest in E60 CAN bus code hacking?
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Hello AWOL
I was wondering whether you continued your canbus adventure, the thread here stops abruptly. You could be dead, but I want to try staying positive
Could tell me what colors on the PDC are for Can + and Can -?
Can I get at it some other place, like the CCC controller?
Cheers
I was wondering whether you continued your canbus adventure, the thread here stops abruptly. You could be dead, but I want to try staying positive
Could tell me what colors on the PDC are for Can + and Can -?
Can I get at it some other place, like the CCC controller?
Cheers
Hey Jim,
When you attach to CAN anywhere else than the OBD-II, please make sure you use the proper termination resistance on your transceiver board. A CAN bus is designed as a "backbone" to which participants attach. If you are an endpoint, you need to terminate with 2 x 60 Ohms to ground tied together through a 10 nF capacitor. If you are in the 'middle' of the of the bus (where you typically should be aiming for) you do not terminate. So, be aware of your bus position and try to connect 'in the middle'. Otherwise you cause reflections and you may get signal quality issues.
Now on the throttle actuator CAN bus and VANOS solenoid CAN busses you must connect without termination because it is a point to point high speed CAN bus. There is no middle: you are it with your sniffer. These are the interesting ones in my opinion :wink, especially if you can time align it with logging data. By the way, these particular transceivers are made by Infineon (TLE6250G) running at 1Mbit/s. It is usually best to use the same transceivers in listening mode for best fidelity, but hey it will work with a TJA1043 from NXP as well, I bet. What transceiver is used on the Arduino setup?
I am not sure about the other CAN networks in our cars and their exact data rates. Some high speed networks run at 500kbit/s. So, beware. A cheap scope is useful in such matters. I have one if needed.
The best software and hardware for logging is this: CANalyzer
But it is very expensive. It is what the car companies use as in many cases they run their software on a Vector OS (OSEK based). I looked on eBay, but nothing came up. Surprise surprise. I did not try very hard, I must say. However, say the word and I can drive over with a toolset when the questions get tough!
Remco, glad you chimed in here. This was an experiment that worked well and my eventual goal was to take a spare PDC module and repurpose it to "monitor" the CAN bus as a "pass-through" module of sorts. The location in the rear would provide room to install it and use the bus data to signal other things as desired throughout the car. One of many ideas I never seem to have time/priority to follow through on.
However, looking into DCT retrofit, we need to know exactly what is on the PT-CAN bus will be essential to determine the difference between traffic in SMG vs. DCT.
Here are the bus descriptions BMW has adopted:
View attachment 10_E60 Voltage Supply and Bus Systems.pdf
Raw (non KOMBI optimized) RPM is buried into K-CAN message ID, bytes 4 and 5 as a 16 bit unsigned integer. K-CAN and PT-CAN message ID are the same. These messages are roughly transmitted at a 100ms average update rate (while on PT-CAN it would be 10ms average). Thanks BMW for making this easy.
True for all ArbIds across PT-CAN, K-CAN, ByteFlight, LLS-CAN, and DK-CAN. ArbIDs are unique and assigned their numbers by priority, so it makes sense to keep the ordering consistent.
I know. But assumptions are for the weak, so I had to check. LOL!
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I posted this on bimmerforums, but you guys will probably find it helpful too. Found it while digging through tool32
Listing of what a bunch of message IDs are for and which modules they originate from. There are some IDs missing when I check against my 535xi, so the list is incomplete, but it's still much better than flying completely blind.
Code:
CAN_ID_HEX CAN_ID_NAME CAN_ID_NAME (Translated) DIAG_ID_HEX SG_NAME
0x00 unbekannt unknown 0x00 Sender unbekannt
0xA8 Drehmoment 1 K-CAN [10] Torque 1 K-CAN [10] 0x12 DME1/DDE1
0xA9 Drehmoment 2 (10) Torque 2 (10) 0x12 DME1/DDE1
0xAA Drehmoment 3 K-CAN [10] Torque 3 K-CAN [10] 0x12 DME1/DDE1
0xAC Radmoment Antriebsstrang 2 [5] Wheel torque Drive train 2 [5] 0x12 DME1/DDE1
0xAD Verzögerungsanforderung ACC [9] Delay request ACC [9] 0x1C LDM
0xAD Verzögerungsanforderung ACC [9] Delay request ACC [9] 0x21 ACC_Modul/ACC+NAVI
0xB3 Steuerung Lenkunterstützung [2] Steering assistance steering [2] 0x16 AFS
0xB4 Radmoment Antriebsstrang 1 [4] Wheel torque Drive train 1 [4] 0x12 DME1/DDE1
0xB5 Drehmomentanforderung EGS [9] Torque demand EGS [9] 0x18 EGS_MECH+NAVI/EGS_MECH
0xB6 Drehmomentanforderung DSC [7] Torque demand DSC [7] 0x29 DXC_RB/DSC_RB/DSC_CT
0xB7 Drehmomentanforderung ACC [10] Torque demand ACC [10] 0x1C LDM
0xB7 Drehmomentanforderung ACC [10] Torque demand ACC [10] 0x21 ACC_Modul/ACC+NAVI
0xB8 Drehmomentanforderung DKG [2] Torque requirement DKG [2] 0x18 DKG
0xB9 Drehmomentanforderung AFS [3] Torque demand AFS [3] 0x16 AFS
0xBA Getriebedaten [20] Transmission data [20] 0x18 SMG_M/SMG/EGS_MECH+NAVI/EGS_MECH/DKG
0xBB Sollmomentanforderung [7] Required torque request [7] 0x29 DXC_RB
0xBC Status Sollmomentumsetzung [7] Status setpoint torque conversion [7] 0x19 VGSG
0xBD Drehmomentanforderung SSG [6] Torque demand SSG [6] 0x18 SMG_M/SMG
0xBE Alive Zähler [12] Alive counters [12] 0x23 ARS_Modul
0xBF Anforderung Radmoment Antriebsstrang [6] Requirement wheel torque Drive train [6] 0x1C LDM
0xC0 Alive Zentrales Gateway [1] Alive Central Gateway [1] 0x0 KGM
0xC1 Alive Zähler Telefon [3] Alive counter phone [3] 0x36 TEL_JAP/TEL_BPI
0xC4 Lenkradwinkel K-CAN [13] Steering wheel angle K-CAN [13] 0x29 DXC_RB/DSC_RB/DSC_CT
0xC8 Lenkradwinkel Oben K-CAN [6] Steering wheel angle Top K-CAN [6] 0x2 SZL_LWS
0xCE Radgeschwindigkeit K-CAN [4] Wheel speed K-CAN [4] 0x29 DXC_RB/DSC_RB/DSC_CT
0xD2 Bedienung Sitzverstellung BF [6] Operation Seat adjustment BF [6] 0x65 SZM_MIT_KBUS/SZM
0xD5 Anforderung Radmoment Bremse [6] Wheel torque brake requirement [6] 0x1C LDM
0xD7 Alive Zähler Sicherheit [2] Alive counter security [2] 0x1 ACSM
0xDA Bedienung Sitzverstellung FA [6] Operation Seat adjustment FA [6] 0x65 SZM_MIT_KBUS/SZM
0xE1 Radmoment Bremse [3] Wheel torque brake [3] 0x29 DXC_RB/DSC_RB
0xE2 Status Zentralverriegelung BFT [11] Status Central locking system BFT [11] 0x0 KGM
0xE6 Status Zentralverriegelung BFTH [11] Status Central locking BFTH [11] 0x72 KBM
0xEA Status Zentralverriegelung FAT [11] Status Central locking FAT [11] 0x0 KGM
0xEE Status Zentralverriegelung FATH [11] Status Central locking FATH [11] 0x72 KBM
0xF2 Status Zentralverriegelung HK [13] Status Central locking HK [13] 0x72 KBM
0xF6 Steuerung Außenspiegel [9] Steering wheel mirrors [9] 0x0 KGM
0xFA Steuerung Fensterheber FAT [10] Control window lifters FAT [10] 0x0 KGM
0xFB Steuerung Fensterheber BFT [5] Control window lifters BFT [5] 0x0 KGM
0xFC Steuerung Fensterheber FATH [5] FATH Control Window Regulators [5] 0x72 KBM
0xFD Steuerung Fensterheber BFTH [5] Control window lifters BFTH [5] 0x72 KBM
0x130 Klemmenstatus [19] Terminal status [19] 0x40 CAS
0x135 Steuerung Crashabschaltung EKP [1] Control Crash Disconnection EKP [1] 0x1 ACSM
0x15F Anforderung Winkel FFP [6] Request angle FFP [6] 0x1C LDM
0x172 Quittierung Anforderung Kombi [1] Acknowledgment request Combi [1] 0x62 M_ASK/CCC_GW
0x190 Anzeige ACC [13] Display ACC [13] 0x1C LDM
0x190 Anzeige ACC [13] Display ACC [13] 0x21 ACC_Modul/ACC+NAVI
0x192 Bedienung Getriebewahlschalter [16] Operation Gear selector switch [16] 0x2 SZL_LWS
0x193 Anzeige ACC DCC [4] Display ACC DCC [4] 0x1C LDM
0x194 Bedienung Tempomat/ACC [13] Operation Tempomat / ACC [13] 0x2 SZL_LWS
0x198 Bedienung Getriebewahlschalter 2 [2] Operation Gear selector switch 2 [2] 0x5E GWS
0x19E Status DSC K-CAN [19] Status DSC K-CAN [19] 0x29 DXC_RB/DSC_RB/DSC_CT
0x1A0 Geschwindigkeit K-CAN [14] Speed K-CAN [14] 0x29 DXC_RB/DSC_RB/DSC_CT
0x1A2 Getriebedaten 2 [6] Transmission data 2 [6] 0x18 EGS_MECH+NAVI/EGS_MECH/DKG
0x1A3 Rohdaten Längsbeschleunigung [3] Raw data longitudinal acceleration [3] 0x18 SMG_M
0x1A6 Wegstrecke [6] Distance [6] 0x29 DXC_RB/DSC_RB/DSC_CT
0x1AA Effekt ErgoCommander [10] Effect ErgoCommander [10] 0x62 M_ASK/CCC_GW
0x1AC Status ARS-Modul [13] Status ARS module [13] 0x23 ARS_Modul
0x1B4 Status Kombi [14] Status Combine [14] 0x60 Kombi
0x1B5 Wärmestrom/Lastmoment Klima [14] Heat flow / load moment Climate [14] 0x78 IHKA
0x1B6 Wärmestrom Motor [11] Heat flow motor [11] 0x12 DME1/DDE1
0x1B8 Bedienung ErgoCommander [6] Operation ErgoCommander [6] 0x67 ZBE_LO/ZBE
0x1C2 Abstandsmeldung PDC [5] Distance indication PDC [5] 0x64 PDC
0x1C3 Abstandsmeldung 2 PDC [3] Distance indication 2 PDC [3] 0x64 PDC
0x1C6 Akustikmeldung PDC [5] Acoustic message PDC [5] 0x64 PDC
0x1D0 Motordaten [13] Motor data [13] 0x12 DME1/DDE1
0x1D2 Anzeige Getriebedaten [22] Transmission data display [22] 0x18 SMG_M/SMG/EGS_MECH+NAVI/EGS_MECH/DKG
0x1D6 Bedienung Taster Audio/Telefon [12] Audio / phone control buttons [12] 0x2 SZL_LWS
0x1D8 Bedienung Klima Luftverteilung FA [13] Operation Climate air distribution FA [13] 0x62 M_ASK/CCC_GW
0x1D9 Bedienung Taster M-Drive [2] Operating buttons M-Drive [2] 0x2 SZL_LWS
0x1DA Bedienung Klima Fernwirken [5] Operation Climate Telecontrol [5] 0x40 CAS
0x1DC Bedienung Schichtung Sitzheizung [1] Operation layering Seat heating [1] 0x62 M_ASK/CCC_GW
0x1E0 Bedienung Klima Luftverteilung BF [7] Operation Climate air distribution BF [7] 0x62 M_ASK/CCC_GW
0x1E2 Bedienung Klima Front [11] Operation Climate Front [11] 0x62 M_ASK/CCC_GW
0x1E7 Bedienung Sitzheizung/Sitzklima FA [7] Operation seat heating / seat climate FA [7] 0x65 SZM_MIT_KBUS/SZM
0x1E8 Bedienung Sitzheizung/Sitzklima BF [7] Operation seat heating / seating climate BF [7] 0x65 SZM_MIT_KBUS/SZM
0x1EA Bedienung Lenksäulenverstellung [5] Operation Steering column adjustment [5] 0x2 SZL_LWS
0x1EB Bedienung Aktivsitz FA [3] Operation Active seat FA [3] 0x65 SZM_MIT_KBUS/SZM
0x1EC Bedienung Aktivsitz BF [3] Operation Active seat BF [3] 0x65 SZM_MIT_KBUS/SZM
0x1ED Bedienung Lehnenbreitenverstellung Aktiv FA [2] Operation of the backrest width adjustment active FA [2] 0x65 SZM_MIT_KBUS/SZM
0x1EE Bedienung Lenkstockstaster [6] Steering wheel control [6] 0x2 SZL_LWS
0x1EF Bedienung Lehnenbreitenverstellung Aktiv BF [2] Operation Backrest width adjustment Active BF [2] 0x65 SZM_MIT_KBUS/SZM
0x1F2 Bedienung Sitzmemory BF [3] Operation Seat memory BF [3] 0x65 SZM_MIT_KBUS/SZM
0x1F3 Bedienung Sitzmemory FA [4] Operation Seatmemory FA [4] 0x65 SZM_MIT_KBUS/SZM
0x1F4 Fernbedienung Sitzmemory BF [2] Remote Control Seat Memory BF [2] 0xFF unbekannt
0x1F6 Blinken [6] Flashing [6] 0x70 LM
0x1FC Status AFS [4] Status AFS [4] 0x16 AFS
0x1FE Crash [12] Crash [12] 0x1 ACSM
0x200 Regelgeschwindigkeit Stufentempomat [7] Speed regulation [7] 0x12 DME1/DDE1
0x202 Dimmung [10] Dimming [10] 0x70 LM
0x205 Akustikanforderung Kombi [3] Acoustic demand combination [3] 0x60 Kombi
0x206 Steuerung Anzeige Shiftlights [1] Control Display Shiftlights [1] 0x12 DME1
0x20B Memoryverstellung [6] Memory adjustment [6] 0x65 SZM_MIT_KBUS
0x20B Memoryverstellung [6] Memory adjustment [6] 0x6D SM_FA
0x20C Steuerung Lenksäule (4) Steering Column Control (4) 0x6D SM_FA
0x20D Position Lenksäule (5) Position steering column (5) 0x65 SZM_MIT_KBUS/SZM
0x210 Bedienung HUD [7] Operation HUD [7] 0x62 M_ASK/CCC_GW
0x211 Status HUD [7] Status HUD [7] 0x3D HUD
0x212 Höhenstände Luftfeder [8] Height air spring [8] 0x38 EHC
0x21A Lampenzustand [13] Lamp condition [13] 0x70 LM
0x21C Bedienung Night-Vision [2] Operation Night-Vision [2] 0x62 CCC_GW
0x21E Status Night-Vision [2] Status Night-Vision [2] 0x57 NVC
0x226 Regensensor-Wischergeschwindigkeit [8] Rain sensor wiper speed [8] 0x45 RLS
0x226 Regensensor-Wischergeschwindigkeit [8] Rain sensor wiper speed [8] 0x70 LM
0x228 Bedienung Sonderfunktion [8] Operation special function [8] 0x62 M_ASK/CCC_GW
0x228 Bedienung Sonderfunktion [8] Operation special function [8] 0x63 CCC_MM
0x22A Status BFS [10] Status FSO [10] 0x6E SM_BF
0x22E Status BFSH [7] Status BFSH [7] 0xFF unbekannt
0x232 Status FAS [10] Status FAS [10] 0x6D SM_FA
0x236 Status FASH [7] Status FASH [7] 0xFF unbekannt
0x237 Status Lehnenbreitenverstellung Aktiv BF [3] Status Backrest width adjustment Active BF [3] 0x5A aLBV_BF
0x239 Status Lehnenbreitenverstellung Aktiv FA [3] Status Backrest width adjustment Active FA [3] 0x59 aLBV_FA
0x23A Status Funkschlüssel [13] Status radio key [13] 0x40 CAS
0x23B Status Klima Front Erweitert [1] Status Climate Front Advanced [1] 0x78 IHKA
0x23C Status Bedienung Sitzkomfort FA [1] Status Operation Seating comfort FA [1] 0x6D SM_FA
0x23F Status Bedienung Sitzkomfort BF [1] Status Operating Seating Comfort BF [1] 0x6E SM_BF
0x242 Status Klima Front [11] Status Climate Front [11] 0x78 IHKA
0x24A Status PDC [6] Status PDC [6] 0x64 PDC
0x252 Wischerstatus [8] Wiper status [8] 0x72 KBM
0x256 Challenge Passive Access [10] Challenge Passive Access [10] 0x40 CAS
0x258 Status Transmission Passive Access [4] Status Transmission Passive Access [4] 0x27 PGS
0x25C Bedienung Klima Zusatzprogramme [2] Operating climate Additional programs [2] 0x62 M_ASK/CCC_GW
0x26B Bedienung Rollos BF [2] Operation Roller blinds BF [2] 0xFF unbekannt
0x26C Bedienung Rollos FA [2] Operation Roller blinds FA [2] 0x0 KGM
0x26D Bedienung Rollos MK [1] Operation Roller blinds MK [1] 0xFF unbekannt
0x26E Steuerung FH/SHD Zentrale (Komfort) [10] Control FH / SHD Central (Comfort) [10] 0x40 CAS
0x26F Bedienung Rollos BFH [2] Operation Roller blinds BFH [2] 0xFF unbekannt
0x270 Bedienung Rollos FAH [2] Operation Roller blinds FAH [2] 0xFF unbekannt
0x278 Navigationsgraph [3] Navigation chart [3] 0x62 CCC_GW
0x27A Synchronisation Navigationsgraph [4] Synchronization navigation graph [4] 0x62 CCC_GW
0x27E Status Verdeck Cabrio [7] Convertible top convertible top [7] 0x24 CVM_V
0x284 Steuerung Fernstart Sicherheitsfahrzeug [8] Remote control starter safety [8] 0x40 CAS
0x285 Steuerung Rollos [3] Control roller blinds [3] 0x65 SZM_MIT_KBUS/SZM
0x28C Bedienung Taster Vertikaldynamik [2] Control buttons Vertical Dynamics [2] 0x5E GWS
0x290 Steuerung Reaktion Wasserstoff-Fahrzeug [1] Control reaction Hydrogen vehicle [1] 0xFF unbekannt
0x292 Steuerung Fernlicht-Assistent [2] Steering Wheel Assistant [2] 0x5F FLA
0x29F Fernbedienung FondCommander [5] Remote Control FondCommander [5] 0x40 CAS
0x2A0 Steuerung Zentralverriegelung [10] Central locking control [10] 0x40 CAS
0x2A2 Bedienung Klima Standfunktionen [5] Operation Air conditioner [5] 0x62 M_ASK/CCC_GW
0x2A4 Bedienung Personalisierung [8] Operation Personalization [8] 0x62 M_ASK/CCC_GW
0x2A6 Bedienung Wischertaster [12] Operation Wiper switch [12] 0x2 SZL_LWS
0x2B2 Raddrücke K-CAN [1] Wheel pressure K-CAN [1] 0x29 DXC_RB/DSC_RB/DSC_CT
0x2B3 Beschleunigungsdaten [2] Acceleration data [2] 0x29 DXC_RB/DSC_RB/DSC_CT
0x2B4 DWA-Alarm [4] DWA alarm [4] 0x41 DWA
0x2B6 Steuerung Hupe DWA [3] Control horn DWA [3] 0x41 DWA
0x2B8 Bedienung Bordcomputer [3] Operation board computer [3] 0x62 M_ASK/CCC_GW
0x2BA Stoppuhr (3) Stopwatch (3) 0x60 Kombi
0x2C0 LCD-Leuchtdichte [7] LCD lighting [7] 0x60 Kombi
0x2CA Außentemperatur [9] Outdoor temperature [9] 0x60 Kombi
0x2CE Steuerung Monitor [4] Control monitor [4] 0x62 M_ASK/CCC_GW
0x2D5 Status Heizung Heckscheibe [1] Status Heating rear window [1] 0x78 IHKA
0x2DA Status Heckklappenlift [2] Status of tailgate lift [2] 0x6B HKL
0x2E2 Status Einstellung Video Night-Vision [1] Status Setting Video Night-Vision [1] 0x57 NVC
0x2E4 Status Anhänger (8) Status Trailers (8) 0x71 AHM
0x2E6 Status Klima Luftverteilung FA [13] Status Climate air distribution FA [13] 0x78 IHKA
0x2EA Status Klima Luftverteilung BF [9] Status Climate air distribution BF [9] 0x78 IHKA
0x2EC Status Klima SH/ZH Zusatzwasserpumpe [14] Status Climate SH / ZH Additional water pump [14] 0x7A SH_ZH
0x2EE Status Klima Zusatzprogramme [2] Status of climate supplementary programs [2] 0x78 IHKA
0x2F0 Status Klima Standfunktionen [12] Status of climate status [12] 0x78 IHKA
0x2F4 Steuerung Klima SH/ZH Zusatzwasserpumpe [13] Control climate SH / ZH auxiliary water pump [13] 0x78 IHKA
0x2F6 Steuerung Licht [7] Control light [7] 0x72 KBM
0x2F7 Einheiten [10] Units [10] 0x62 M_ASK/CCC_GW
0x2F7 Einheiten [10] Units [10] 0x63 CCC_MM
0x2F8 Uhrzeit/Datum [12] Time / Date [12] 0x60 Kombi
0x2FA Sitzbelegung Gurtkontakte (14) Seat belt contact (14) 0x1 ACSM
0x2FC ZV und Klappenzustand [11] ZV and folding condition [11] 0x40 CAS
0x304 Status Gang [13] Status Status [13] 0x18 SMG_M/SMG/EGS_MECH+NAVI/EGS_MECH/DKG
0x306 Fahrzeugneigung [2] Towing 0x70 LM
0x308 Status MSA [2] Status MSA [2] 0x12 DME1/DDE1
0x310 Außentemperatur/Relativzeit [10] External temperature / relative time [10] 0x60 Kombi
0x311 Nachtankmenge [3] Nightfall [3] 0x60 Kombi
0x312 Service Call Teleservice [2] Service Call Teleservice [2] 0x60 Kombi
0x313 Status Service Call Teleservice [3] Status Service Call Teleservice [3] 0x36 TEL_BPI
0x313 Status Service Call Teleservice [3] Status Service Call Teleservice [3] 0x62 M_ASK/CCC_GW
0x314 Status Fahrlicht [9] Status of driving light [9] 0x45 RLS
0x314 Status Fahrlicht [9] Status of driving light [9] 0x70 LM
0x315 Fahrzeugmodus [7] Vehicle mode [7] 0x65 SZM_MIT_KBUS/SZM
0x317 Bedienung Taster PDC [1] Operation button PDC [1] 0x65 SZM_MIT_KBUS/SZM
0x318 Status Antennen Passive Access [7] Status Antennas Passive Access [7] 0x27 PGS
0x319 Bedienung Taster RDC [4] Operation button RDC [4] 0x65 SZM
0x31C Status Reifendruck [6] Status of tire pressure [6] 0x20 RDC
0x31D Status Reifenpannenanzeige [6] Status of tire tension indicator [6] 0x29 DXC_RB/DSC_RB/DSC_CT
0x322 Dämpferstrom [2] Damp current [2] 0x39 EDCK_Modul
0x326 Status Dämpferprogramm [9] Status damper program [9] 0x39 EDCK_Modul
0x328 Relativzeit [9] Relative time [9] 0x60 Kombi
0x32A Steuerung ALC [2] Control system ALC [2] 0x70 LM
0x32D Anzeige HDC [3] Display HDC [3] 0x29 DXC_RB
0x32E Status Klima Interne Regelinfo [6] Status Climate Internal Ruleinfo [6] 0x78 IHKA
0x330 Kilometerstand/Reichweite [5] Mileage / range [5] 0x60 Kombi
0x331 Programmierung Stufentempomat [2] Programming step stepping [2] 0x62 M_ASK/CCC_GW
0x332 Fahreranzeige Drehzahlbereich [4] Driver display Speed range [4] 0x12 DME1/DDE1
0x335 Status Elektrische Kraftstoffpumpe [3] Status Electric Fuel Pump [3] 0x17 EKP
0x336 Anzeige Checkcontrol-Meldung (Rolle) [3] Display of checkcontrol message (role) [3] 0x60 Kombi
0x337 Status Kraftstoffregelung DME [1] Status Fuel Control DME [1] 0x12 DME1
0x338 Steuerung Anzeige Checkcontrol-Meldung [7] Control display Checkcontrol message [7] 0x60 Kombi
0x339 Status Anzeige Funktionen Extern [1] Status Display Functions External [1] 0x62 M_ASK/CCC_GW
0x33A Status Monitor Front [3] Status Monitor Front [3] 0x73 CID_C_H/CID_C
0x348 Übereinstimmung Navigationsgraph [4] Conformity navigation graph [4] 0x62 CCC_GW
0x34A Navigation GPS 1 [5] Navigation GPS 1 [5] 0x62 CCC_GW
0x34B Status Sitzlehnenverriegelung FA (3) Status Seat back rest FA (3) 0x65 SZM_MIT_KBUS
0x34B Status Sitzlehnenverriegelung FA (3) Status Seat back rest FA (3) 0x6D SM_FA
0x34C Navigation GPS 2 [5] Navigation GPS 2 [5] 0x62 CCC_GW
0x34D Status Sitzlehnenverriegelung BF [2] Status Seat backrest BF [2] 0x65 SZM_MIT_KBUS
0x34D Status Sitzlehnenverriegelung BF [2] Status Seat backrest BF [2] 0x6E SM_BF
0x34E Navigation System Information [6] Navigation system information [6] 0x62 CCC_GW
0x35A Termin Condition Based Service [2] Appointment Condition Based Service [2] 0x62 M_ASK/CCC_GW
0x35C Status Bordcomputer [5] Status of board computer [5] 0x60 Kombi
0x35E Daten Bordcomputer (Reisedaten) [5] Data on board computer (rice data) [5] 0x60 Kombi
0x360 Daten Bordcomputer (Fahrtbeginn) [2] Data board computer (start of journey) [2] 0x60 Kombi
0x362 Daten Bordcomputer (Durchschnittswerte) [4] Data on board computer (average values) [4] 0x60 Kombi
0x364 Daten Bordcomputer (Ankunft) [2] Data board computer (arrival) [2] 0x60 Kombi
0x366 Anzeige Kombi/Externe Anzeige [3] Display Combi / External Display [3] 0x60 Kombi
0x367 Steuerung Anzeige Bedarfsorientierter Service [6] Control Display Demand-oriented Service [6] 0x60 Kombi
0x374 Radtoleranzabgleich [7] Wheel tolerance adjustment [7] 0x29 DXC_RB/DSC_RB/DSC_CT
0x376 Status Verschleiß Lamelle [3] Status wear lamella [3] 0x19 VGSG
0x380 Fahrgestellnummer [5] Chassis number [5] 0x40 CAS
0x381 Elektronischer Motorölmessstab [10] Electronic engine oil dipstick [10] 0x12 DME1/DDE1
0x382 Elektronischer Motorölmessstab M [1] Electronic engine oil dipstick M [1] 0x12 DME1/DDE1
0x388 Fahrzeugtyp [13] Vehicle type [13] 0x40 CAS
0x38E Startdrehzahl [1] Starting speed [1] 0x12 DME1/DDE1
0x394 RDA Anfrage/Datenablage [5] RDA Request / Data Storage [5] 0x60 Kombi
0x395 Codierung Powermanagement [2] Coding Powermanagement [2] 0x40 CAS
0x398 Bedienung Fahrwerk [14] Operation Chassis [14] 0x62 M_ASK/CCC_GW
0x399 Status M-Drive [2] Status M-Drive [2] 0x12 DME1
0x39C EBA Datenanforderung [5] EBA data request [5] 0xFF unbekannt
0x39E Bedienung Uhrzeit/Datum [1] Operation Time / Date [1] 0x62 M_ASK/CCC_GW
0x3A0 Fahrzeugzustand [4] Vehicle condition [4] 0x0 KGM
0x3A3 Anforderung Remote Services [2] Request Remote Services [2] 0x62 M_ASK/CCC_GW
0x3AC Nachlaufzeit Klemme 30 fehlergesteuert [2] Follow-up time Terminal 30 error-controlled [2] 0x0 KGM
0x3B0 Status Gang Rückwärts [2] Status Reverse [2] 0x70 LM
0x3B1 Getriebedaten 3 [2] Transmission data 3 [2] 0x18 EGS_MECH/DKG
0x3B3 Powermanagement Verbrauchersteuerung [8] Powermanagement Consumer Control [8] 0x12 DME1/DDE1
0x3B4 Powermanagement Batteriespannung [11] Powermanagement Battery voltage [11] 0x12 DME1/DDE1
0x3B5 Status Wasserventil [6] Status Water valve [6] 0x78 IHKA
0x3B6 Position Fensterheber FAT [6] Position window lifter FAT [6] 0x0 KGM
0x3B7 Position Fensterheber FATH [5] Position window lifters FATH [5] 0x72 KBM
0x3B8 Position Fensterheber BFT [6] Position window lifter BFT [6] 0x0 KGM
0x3B9 Position Fensterheber BFTH [5] Position Window lifters BFTH [5] 0x72 KBM
0x3BA Position SHD [10] Position SHD [10] 0x44 SHD/MDS
0x3BD Status Verbraucherabschaltung [2] Status of consumer disconnection [2] 0x72 KBM
0x3BE Nachlaufzeit Stromversorgung [5] Run-on time Power supply [5] 0x40 CAS
0x3BF Position Fensterheber Heckscheibe [1] Position Window Regulator Rear Window [1] 0x24 CVM_V
0x3C0 Konfiguration FAS [3] Configuration FAS [3] 0x6D SM_FA
0x3C1 Konfiguration BFS [3] Configuration FSO [3] 0x6E SM_BF
0x3CA Konfiguration M-Drive [2] Configuration M-Drive [2] 0x62 M_ASK/CCC_GW
0x3D3 Status Solarsensor [1] Status Solar sensor [1] 0x70 LM
0x3D4 Konfiguration Zentralverriegelung CKM [3] Configuration Central locking CKM [3] 0x62 M_ASK/CCC_GW
0x3D5 Status Zentralverriegelung CKM [4] Status Central locking CKM [4] 0x40 CAS
0x3D6 Konfiguration DWA CKM [1] Configuration DWA CKM [1] 0x62 M_ASK/CCC_GW
0x3D7 Status DWA CKM [2] Status DWA CKM [2] 0x41 DWA
0x3D8 Konfiguration RLS CKM [3] Configuration RLS CKM [3] 0x62 M_ASK/CCC_GW
0x3D9 Status RLS CKM [4] Status RLS CKM [4] 0x45 RLS
0x3D9 Status RLS CKM [4] Status RLS CKM [4] 0x70 LM
0x3DA Konfiguration Memorypositionen CKM [1] Configuration Memory positions CKM [1] 0x62 M_ASK/CCC_GW
0x3DB Status Memorypositionen CKM [3] Status Memory positions CKM [3] 0x65 SZM_MIT_KBUS
0x3DB Status Memorypositionen CKM [3] Status Memory positions CKM [3] 0x6D SM_FA
0x3DC Konfiguration Licht CKM [3] Configuration light CKM [3] 0x62 M_ASK/CCC_GW
0x3DD Status Licht CKM [4] Status light CKM [4] 0x70 LM
0x3DE Konfiguration Klima CKM [5] Configuration Climate CKM [5] 0x62 M_ASK/CCC_GW
0x3DF Status Klima CKM [6] Status Climate CKM [6] 0x78 IHKA
0x3E0 Konfiguration ALC CKM [1] Configuration ALC CKM [1] 0x62 M_ASK/CCC_GW
0x3E1 Status ALC CKM [1] Status ALC CKM [1] 0x70 LM
0x3E2 Konfiguration Heckklappe CKM [1] Configuration tailgate CKM [1] 0x62 M_ASK/CCC_GW
0x3E3 Status Heckklappe CKM [1] Status tailgate CKM [1] 0x6B HKL
0x3E9 Marker 1 [1] Marker 1 [1] 0xFF unbekannt
0x3EA Marker 2 [3] Marker 2 [3] 0x7E Diagnosetool_K_CAN_System
0x3EB Marker 3 [1] Marker 3 [1] 0x7D Diagnosetool_PT_CAN
0x3EE Anforderung Fehlermeldung [1] Request error message [1] 0xFF unbekannt
0x3EF OBD Daten Motor (3) OBD data engine (3) 0x12 DME1/DDE1
0x3F0 Konfiguration Licht Erweitert CKM [1] Configuration Light Advanced CKM [1] 0x62 M_ASK/CCC_GW
0x3F1 Status Licht Erweitert CKM [1] Status Light Advanced CKM [1] 0x70 LM
0x3F4 Konfiguration Laderaumabdeckung CKM [1] Configuration of charger cover CKM [1] 0x62 M_ASK/CCC_GW
0x3F5 Status Laderaumabdeckung CKM [1] Status Charging compartment cover CKM [1] 0x72 KBM
0x3FE Anforderung CAN_Testtool SI-Bus [5] Requirement CAN_Testtool SI-Bus [5] 0x7E Diagnosetool_K_CAN_System
0x480 Netzwerkmanagement Network management 0x0 KGM
0x481 Netzwerkmanagement Network management 0x1 ACSM
0x482 Netzwerkmanagement Network management 0x2 SZL_LWS
0x492 Netzwerkmanagement Network management 0x12 DDE1/DME1
0x496 Netzwerkmanagement Network management 0x16 AFS
0x497 Netzwerkmanagement Network management 0x17 EKP
0x498 Netzwerkmanagement Network management 0x18 DKG/EGS_MECH/EGS_MECH+NAVI/SMG/SMG_M
0x499 Netzwerkmanagement Network management 0x19 VGSG
0x49B Netzwerkmanagement Network management 0x1B VVT1
0x49C Netzwerkmanagement Network management 0x1C LDM
0x49E Netzwerkmanagement Network management 0x1E VVT2
0x4A0 Netzwerkmanagement Network management 0x20 RDC
0x4A1 Netzwerkmanagement Network management 0x21 ACC+NAVI/ACC_Modul
0x4A3 Netzwerkmanagement Network management 0x23 ARS_Modul
0x4A4 Netzwerkmanagement Network management 0x24 CVM_V
0x4A5 Netzwerkmanagement Network management 0x25 RSC_VDA/SC_CT/SC_VDA
0x4A7 Netzwerkmanagement Network management 0x27 PGS
0x4A9 Netzwerkmanagement Network management 0x29 DSC_CT/DSC_RB/DXC_RB
0x4B6 Netzwerkmanagement Network management 0x36 TEL_BPI/TEL_JAP/TEL_MULF
0x4B7 Netzwerkmanagement Network management 0x37 AMP_TOP
0x4B8 Netzwerkmanagement Network management 0x38 EHC
0x4B9 Netzwerkmanagement Network management 0x39 EDCK_Modul
0x4BA Netzwerkmanagement Network management 0x3A KHM
0x4BB Netzwerkmanagement Network management 0x3B JNAV
0x4BC Netzwerkmanagement Network management 0x3C CDC
0x4BD Netzwerkmanagement Network management 0x3D HUD
0x4C0 Netzwerkmanagement Network management 0x40 CAS
0x4C1 Netzwerkmanagement Network management 0x41 DWA
0x4C4 Netzwerkmanagement Network management 0x44 MDS/SHD
0x4C5 Netzwerkmanagement Network management 0x45 RLS/RLS
0x4CB Netzwerkmanagement Network management 0x4B VM
0x4D0 Netzwerkmanagement Network management 0x50 Notstrom-Sirene
0x4D3 Netzwerkmanagement Network management 0x53 IBOC
0x4D4 Netzwerkmanagement Network management 0x54 SDARS
0x4D5 Netzwerkmanagement Network management 0x55 ISpeechBox
0x4D7 Netzwerkmanagement Network management 0x57 NVC
0x4D9 Netzwerkmanagement Network management 0x59 aLBV_FA
0x4DA Netzwerkmanagement Network management 0x5A aLBV_BF
0x4DB Netzwerkmanagement Network management 0x5B DAB
0x4DC Netzwerkmanagement Network management 0x5C Behoerde
0x4DD Netzwerkmanagement Network management 0x5D TLC
0x4DE Netzwerkmanagement Network management 0x5E GWS
0x4DF Netzwerkmanagement Network management 0x5F FLA
0x4E0 Netzwerkmanagement Network management 0x60 Kombi
0x4E2 Netzwerkmanagement Network management 0x62 CCC_GW/M_ASK
0x4E3 Netzwerkmanagement Network management 0x63 CCC_MM
0x4E4 Netzwerkmanagement Network management 0x64 PDC
0x4E5 Netzwerkmanagement Network management 0x65 SZM/SZM_MIT_KBUS
0x4E7 Netzwerkmanagement Network management 0x67 ZBE/ZBE_LO
0x4EB Netzwerkmanagement Network management 0x6B HKL
0x4ED Netzwerkmanagement Network management 0x6D SM_FA/SM_FA_KBUS
0x4EE Netzwerkmanagement Network management 0x6E SM_BF/SM_BF_KBUS
0x4F0 Netzwerkmanagement Network management 0x70 LM/LM_ALC
0x4F1 Netzwerkmanagement Network management 0x71 AHM
0x4F2 Netzwerkmanagement Network management 0x72 KBM
0x4F3 Netzwerkmanagement Network management 0x73 CID_C/CID_C_H
0x4F8 Netzwerkmanagement Network management 0x78 IHKA
0x4FA Netzwerkmanagement Network management 0x7A SH_ZH
0x4FD Netzwerkmanagement Network management 0x7D Diagnosetool_PT_CAN
0x4FE Netzwerkmanagement Network management 0x7E Diagnosetool_K_CAN_System
0x500 Datentransfer [1] Data transfer [1] 0x70 LM
0x500 Datentransfer [1] Data transfer [1] 0x78 IHKA
0x509 Netzwerkmanagement Network management 0x89 Xenon_Scheinwerfer_Links_ALC
0x50A Netzwerkmanagement Network management 0x8A Xenon_Scheinwerfer_Rechts_ALC
0x50B Netzwerkmanagement Network management 0x8B CNV
0x571 Netzwerkmanagement Network management 0xF1 Diagnosedose
0x580 Dienste services 0x0 KGM
0x581 Dienste services 0x1 ACSM
0x582 Dienste services 0x2 SZL_LWS
0x592 Dienste services 0x12 DDE1/DME1
0x596 Dienste services 0x16 AFS
0x597 Dienste services 0x17 EKP
0x598 Dienste services 0x18 DKG/EGS_MECH/EGS_MECH+NAVI/SMG/SMG_M
0x599 Dienste services 0x19 VGSG
0x59B Dienste services 0x1B VVT1
0x59C Dienste services 0x1C LDM
0x59E Dienste services 0x1E VVT2
0x5A0 Dienste services 0x20 RDC
0x5A1 Dienste services 0x21 ACC+NAVI/ACC_Modul
0x5A3 Dienste services 0x23 ARS_Modul
0x5A4 Dienste services 0x24 CVM_V
0x5A5 Dienste services 0x25 RSC_VDA/SC_CT/SC_VDA
0x5A7 Dienste services 0x27 PGS
0x5A9 Dienste services 0x29 DSC_CT/DSC_RB/DXC_RB
0x5B6 Dienste services 0x36 TEL_BPI/TEL_JAP/TEL_MULF
0x5B7 Dienste services 0x37 AMP_TOP
0x5B8 Dienste services 0x38 EHC
0x5B9 Dienste services 0x39 EDCK_Modul
0x5BA Dienste services 0x3A KHM
0x5BB Dienste services 0x3B JNAV
0x5BC Dienste services 0x3C CDC
0x5BD Dienste services 0x3D HUD
0x5C0 Dienste services 0x40 CAS
0x5C1 Dienste services 0x41 DWA
0x5C4 Dienste services 0x44 MDS/SHD
0x5C5 Dienste services 0x45 RLS/RLS
0x5CB Dienste services 0x4B VM
0x5D0 Dienste services 0x50 Notstrom-Sirene
0x5D3 Dienste services 0x53 IBOC
0x5D4 Dienste services 0x54 SDARS
0x5D5 Dienste services 0x55 ISpeechBox
0x5D7 Dienste services 0x57 NVC
0x5D9 Dienste services 0x59 aLBV_FA
0x5DA Dienste services 0x5A aLBV_BF
0x5DB Dienste services 0x5B DAB
0x5DC Dienste services 0x5C Behoerde
0x5DD Dienste services 0x5D TLC
0x5DE Dienste services 0x5E GWS
0x5DF Dienste services 0x5F FLA
0x5E0 Dienste services 0x60 Kombi
0x5E2 Dienste services 0x62 CCC_GW/M_ASK
0x5E3 Dienste services 0x63 CCC_MM
0x5E4 Dienste services 0x64 PDC
0x5E5 Dienste services 0x65 SZM/SZM_MIT_KBUS
0x5E7 Dienste services 0x67 ZBE/ZBE_LO
0x5EB Dienste services 0x6B HKL
0x5ED Dienste services 0x6D SM_FA/SM_FA_KBUS
0x5EE Dienste services 0x6E SM_BF/SM_BF_KBUS
0x5F0 Dienste services 0x70 LM/LM_ALC
0x5F1 Dienste services 0x71 AHM
0x5F2 Dienste services 0x72 KBM
0x5F3 Dienste services 0x73 CID_C/CID_C_H
0x5F8 Dienste services 0x78 IHKA
0x5FA Dienste services 0x7A SH_ZH
0x5FD Dienste services 0x7D Diagnosetool_PT_CAN
0x5FE Dienste services 0x7E Diagnosetool_K_CAN_System
0x609 Dienste services 0x89 Xenon_Scheinwerfer_Links_ALC
0x60A Dienste services 0x8A Xenon_Scheinwerfer_Rechts_ALC
0x60B Dienste services 0x8B CNV
0x671 Dienste services 0xF1 Diagnosedose
0x7C0 CAS Programmierung Bandende 1 (3) CAS Programming Bandende 1 (3) 0x40 CAS
0x7C1 CAS Programmierung Bandende 2 (3) CAS Programming Bandende 2 (3) 0xFF TOOL_BANDENDE_CAS
0x7C2 CAS Applikationsnachricht 1 (3) CAS Application Message 1 (3) 0x40 CAS
0x7C3 CAS Applikationsnachricht 2 (3) CAS application message 2 (3) 0xFF TOOL_BANDENDE_CAS
0xFFF unbekannt unknown 0xFF Sender unbekanntAbbreviated Terra's post above for what I think most are after here.
Hex ArbID for M-Drive is 0x399. Specifically, you can trigger off of byte 1, bit 7-8.
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What's probably also of interest to you guys are the transmission messages:
Only 0xB8 seems to be DCT specific, and only 0xBD and 0x1A3 seems to be SMG specific. 0xB8 and 0xBD both seem to carry torque requirement, though it's unclear as to whether or not the format is the same. 0x3B1 might not be present in SMG transmissions
Next step would be to disassemble the MSS65, find where the CAN messages are handled, and see if there's any code already present to handle the DCT-specific messages.
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0xB5 Drehmomentanforderung EGS [9] Torque demand EGS [9] 0x18 EGS_MECH+NAVI/EGS_MECH
0xB8 Drehmomentanforderung DKG [2] Torque requirement DKG [2] 0x18 DKG
0xBA Getriebedaten [20] Transmission data [20] 0x18 SMG_M/SMG/EGS_MECH+NAVI/EGS_MECH/DKG
0xBD Drehmomentanforderung SSG [6] Torque demand SSG [6] 0x18 SMG_M/SMG
0x1A2 Getriebedaten 2 [6] Transmission data 2 [6] 0x18 EGS_MECH+NAVI/EGS_MECH/DKG
0x1A3 Rohdaten Längsbeschleunigung [3] Raw data longitudinal acceleration [3] 0x18 SMG_M
0x1D2 Anzeige Getriebedaten [22] Transmission data display [22] 0x18 SMG_M/SMG/EGS_MECH+NAVI/EGS_MECH/DKG
0x304 Status Gang [13] Status Status [13] 0x18 SMG_M/SMG/EGS_MECH+NAVI/EGS_MECH/DKG
0x3B1 Getriebedaten 3 [2] Transmission data 3 [2] 0x18 EGS_MECH/DKG
0x498 Netzwerkmanagement Network management 0x18 DKG/EGS_MECH/EGS_MECH+NAVI/SMG/SMG_M
0x598 Dienste services 0x18 DKG/EGS_MECH/EGS_MECH+NAVI/SMG/SMG_MNext step would be to disassemble the MSS65, find where the CAN messages are handled, and see if there's any code already present to handle the DCT-specific messages.
I was looking at that last night. I am setting up my CAN message simulator. There are multiple choices here. I was thinking byte 4, bits 5 and 4. This is the dashboard M-light part of the message. Either a 01 or a 10 in these bits will indicate the M-drive dash / HUD light being ON. A 00 means OFF. This way it is agnostic of a particular ECU status in the vehicle. This also matches the CAN trace you left somewhere upstream in this thread. You must have been toggling the M button in that experiment, from what I could tell.
Even if you code the steering wheel module to an M5 VO (presumably that's all that's needed), the car still won't know anything about those CAN frames.
Well I have already activated M view in the HUD of my non M E60 so I would like to be able to activate/deactivate that view in the HUD when I press the M button on the steering wheel. Currently I'm able to activate/deactivate that view only from the iDrive settings. I saw that there is M drive option in the SZL module, which I eventually can activate with NSC Expert coding, but I don't know to what else that option may be related and I don't want to cause any issues with it. I was thinking that I can just get the messages, which are sent in the CAN Bus when the M button is pressed and after receiving them to send new messages to the CIC to activate the M view in the HUD. Does that make sense?
K-can is set up as a serial bus and every module sees the traffic and ignores stuff it doesn't care about. You won't screw stuff up if you code SZL to start sending the m-mode-on frames (about the only thing I've seen throw stuff off is duplicating 0x380 messages with different vin number).
Odds are CIC will ignore them anyway, until you code it to enable that functionality - I'm not sure if you can enable it by coding to activate the functionality, or recode the whole CIC with a VO that has it. Probably the former though, from my experience the VO stuff doesn't do much.
Either way doing that should be easier than setting up an arduino as a man-in-the-middle type of thing.
Yep, I'm aware how CAN bus works. Probably I wasn't clear in my previous post. I'm afraid to not break anything, which is working ok at the moment. For example my car is equipped with Lane Departure Warning system, which doesn't exist in the M models. That system can be activated/deactivated from the button, which sits below the M button. If I enable the M mode in the SZL, I may lose the ability to start and stop that system. This is only one example, which I can give but probably there may be some other cases in which the enabling of the M mode in the SZL may lead to negative result. Additionally as you have mentioned enabling the M mode in the SZL may not be sufficient and I may need to enable other options in other modules ... however I can easily try and if the result is not good enough, I can revert that settings.
And finally if I manage to achieve the result that I want via coding will not be as fun as achieving it with Arduino
Err I guess I don't see how you'll compel SZL to send any can frames from the M-button, if that feature isn't coded. IIRC the signaling between the buttons and SZL is based on resistance, so getting an arduino in between that would be a huge pain in the ***. On the other hand, running a separate wire to the m button would require a clock spring with more leads (heated steering wheel one maybe? though you may be SOL with the lane departure vibration thing in the steering wheel)Yep, I'm aware how CAN bus works. Probably I wasn't clear in my previous post. I'm afraid to not break anything, which is working ok at the moment. For example my car is equipped with Lane Departure Warning system, which doesn't exist in the M models. That system can be activated/deactivated from the button, which sits below the M button. If I enable the M mode in the SZL, I may lose the ability to start and stop that system. This is only one example, which I can give but probably there may be some other cases in which the enabling of the M mode in the SZL may lead to negative result. Additionally as you have mentioned enabling the M mode in the SZL may not be sufficient and I may need to enable other options in other modules ... however I can easily try and if the result is not good enough, I can revert that settings.
And finally if I manage to achieve the result that I want via coding will not be as fun as achieving it with Arduino
Hi guys, reviving an old thread - is anyone able to share their Arduino sketch used to sniff the k can messages? Furthermore, can anyone confirm that 120ohm termination resistors from the H and L to ground would be required when hooking up to the k can at the PDC?
Yeah that's the proper termination for the K-can. Take a look at the arduino sketch here.
https://github.com/pavelmalik/BMWCanBridge
Let me guess, you wanna tie exhaust cut outs into the m-mode?
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