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DIY brake flush w/Motive Power Bleeder

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#1 · (Edited)
I try to limit myself to the "easy as changing a flat tire" type of DIY maintenance. Oil change and door seals certainly fit the bill. Today, I found that a brake flush (absent the ABS/GT1 part) does too. My sense is that these tasks are so mundane that they are ripe for sloppiness (e.g. overtightening) when left to a professional.

Timing:
Manual says once every 2yrs. I'll probably make it a routine every year at this time, when my winter wheels get swapped off for summers. I had 3 unusual complications doing this my first time. Excluding those, this job should take you 20-30mins longer than changing 4 flat tires.

Miscellany (skippable unless you enjoy a chuckle):
My complications were...
a) Not removing the lower clip on the microfilter with two hands. Murphy's Law penalized me with a drop of said clip, and a side trip to removing the lower engine shields to recover it. From above, I could not see it, to use my magnetic extractor.
b) Finding that the last person who ventured here did not remove the microfilter carefully. The rubber flap that keeps debris out of the sidewall was stripped off. A side trip with a shop vac recovered said flap from the depths.
c) Finding that the last person either semi-stripped one of my bleeder nuts (or skipped that corner after giving up). A delay, to let PB Blaster work its magic, was needed to free it. If you need to use PB, remember you are working around brake parts: guard where you spray with paper towel backing.

Needed:
Motive Power Bleeder (Euro cap, 1100), from Bimmerzone
1 container of ATE Typ200 (1L, amber), from Bimmerzone
1 magnetic catch bottle, from Bimmerzone, marked in 250mL increments with kitchen measuring cup.
small funnel
9mm crescent/box wrench, or adjustable wrench
big towel
tire changing stuff: jack, lug & torque wrench
nice to have: syringe, disposal container, nitrile gloves

Steps:
1. Disconnect hood alarm sensor, at the driver's microfilter
2. Remove driver's microfilter. Clear the 3 tabs on the left, lift the bar at the front, remove the microfilter lid, remove the lower retaining clip (use two hands!), remove microfilter housing to expose the brake fluid compartment.
3. Clean compartment, drop a towel all around this area to catch any wayward corrosive brake fluid droplets.
4. Disconnect fluid reservoir cable (level sensor).
5. Syringe out old fluid to the "min" level. I was afraid to go further (introduce air). Does anyone know how much old fluid you can safely extract?
6. Replace to "max" level with new fluid.
7. Fit Motive properly, pump to 13-15psi. Check for tight seal.

Now work from farthest wheel to closest, repeating as needed...
8. Jack and remove wheel.
9. Pop off rubber bleeder nipple cover. Be mindful of cables (driver's front, passenger's rear).
10. Seal catch can tubing completely over nipple, and position such that air is encouraged to escape upwards.
11. Loosen (counter clockwise) nipple screw to allow fluid to flow. I jostled mine a tad during flow, to loosen debris.
12. Observe level in catch can, and color quality of fluid in tubing. My fluid became clear and pretty after ~130mL.
13. Pinch off flow via screw. Repump to 15psi. Open flow for one last check and retighten. I used "finger tight plus" (less tight than the last pro who was here on my car).
14. Wipe off any drizzle/drops of brake fluid around the caliper.
15. Top fluid reservoir back to "max" anytime it's near "min".
...
Last. Top fluid level. Put humpty dumpty back together again.

My guess at total fluid used: 500mL in catch bottle + 3x60mL syringe extract + 150mL final top off = approx. 850mL










 
#2 ·
Great write up - thanks!

OT - I was looking at your photos and went back one too many from the start - there are pictures of your car with a wooden board attached to the front. What was that about?
 
#6 ·
Good write up.

Not sure I agree with the finger tight...if the caliper is aluminum and the fitting is probably steel. The aluminum will expand more than the steel when it heats up. I have always gone pretty tight.
 
#7 ·
Caliper is ferrous. I know this only because trying to find a happy place for my magnetic catch bottle in a land of aluminum suspension components bore that out. In one enclosed picture, you may notice that I'm not on the caliper. That is due to the fact that later in the job, the catch bottle wanted a smoother surface to hold itself up.

While I didn't look up the specific torque for the bleeder screws (my wrench is not particularly well suited for that space, nor range), I believe it's typically in the single digit lb-ft, and sometimes expressed in lb-in. I used as a reference my experienced feel for the oil drain bolt (25nm / 18lbft).

I monitor things that I touch that can leak, so in the coming day(s), I'll update if I find myself re-flushing. I didn't mention it above, but I did buy a backup can of fluid.
 
#10 ·
How long does this DIY take??
First time...about an hour, taking your time.

I have two jacks, so I lift and flush the rears, button it up and repeat on front...takes about 40-45 mins to do all four and clean up.
 
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#12 ·
Hank is correct with that one, since the fluid is used in the same system, so there is still left over old fluid in the clutch system. Also, BPM had a nice little vid on doing this on their youtube page if you want to give it a look(the use the e46 as the example car though). They talk about draining the reservoir tank down to the min using a symple turkey baster, and pumping new fluid from the brakes back up. As well as, pumping new fluid back up through the clutch as well. Just check and repeat the draining processes as you pump more into the system. Good write up though, same way I used to do it before on my other cars. I've just been a homework nerd for the beast ever since I picked mine up. I'll being doing this shortly along with a coolant system refresh very soon...
 
#14 ·
Dealing with seized bleeder screws

Just did this job with a Motive pressure bleeder as well. Wanted to share some tips on how to deal with seized bleeder screws. First off, if you have no idea when your brake fluid was last flushed and you live in a environment subject to snow/salt, buy a set of replacement bleeder screws. I was able to purchase all 4 at Car Quest for less than $10 (CDN) Before attempting this job, you want to soak the bleeder screws in your favorite penetrating oil for at least 24 hours. Before applying the penetrating oil, use a wire brush to remove most of the corrosion around the threads of the bleeder screws so the penetrating oil can do it's job. When it comes time to loosen the bleeder screw, start with a six point socket. The first action you should make is a slight tightening action to brake the corrosion. I recommend tapping lightly with a hammer followed by a loosening action. If the bleeder doesn't budge STOP! Don't try and remove it with all your force, it will snap. At this point, use a MAP torch (hotter than propane) and heat the base where the bleeder screw goes in. Try not to get the flame near the caliper slide pins or you will burn the rubber bushings. After applying heat for about 1 minute, soak the bleeder with PB Blaster or your favorite penetrating oil. (Have a fire extinguisher handy just in case) After soaking the bleeder screw, use a ball peen hammer and tap lightly on the bleeder screw. The vibration helps the penetrating oil to seep in and brake the corrosion. Get your 6 point socket and repeat with the tightening/loosening motion. I had to repeat this process 3 times for each caliper but was able to get all my bleeder screws out with no damage the caliper. Good luck.