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Since I can't find a better place to post about the E24 M6, I'll post it here. Last saterday, I went to Germany, and bought http://www.mobile.de/SIDTKSDI7sCeSqBtVODqCMc6w-t-vaNexlCsAsCsK%F3P%F3R~BmSB11LsearchPublicJ1129528454A1LsearchPublicD1100CCarX-t-vctpLtt~BmPA1A1B20B16%81O-t-vCaMkMoSeSmVb_X_Y_x_yposO~BSRA6D1100D3500C635CPKWC635HinPublicA2A0A0A0C184A0/cgi-bin/da.pl?bereich=pkw&top=4&id=11111111173943224&& this E24 M6. The owner hasn't taken it offline yet, so you can still wath the pictures.

I'll be picking her up in 4 weeks, after I made a carport to store it.

This is my all time favorite BMW classic! The state of the car is even better than on the pictures, except for the interior, that looks a little used. I'm planning on changing the interior anyway, so that's not really a problem.

I did a test drive with the car, and I noticed that I had to push the brakes really hard to get the car stopped. Would this be a problem with the brakes, or is this just how these old cars brake? I have an '88 VW Golf, and it seems to brake easier...

Ow, I'm so excited I finally bought my old dream car :wroom:
 
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#2 ·
The brakes should be fairly stiff. They are in both of my E28 M5s and the E28 M5 shares the exact same components as the E24 M6 so there is not a difference there. The issue to watch out for is the hydraulic accumulator, aka "the brake bomb" which can blow a seal internally and make braking very difficult. The ABS light will light and you will know it from braking feel when this happens.

As long as it brakes well but has a hard pedal feel, there is no issue.
 
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#4 ·
I believe it is Arktic blue... But the car has been repainted. Possible that this color is Royal blue...
Anyway, I'll repaint it in Le Mans blue. I know it's not an original M6 color, but I do like this color a lot.
About the wheels, I'll buy some 3-piece ACSchnitzer 17" wheels.

Actually, I'm planning on doing quite some mods on the car, and it's not gonna be complete original. Maybe most of you will think this is a shame, but I'll mod it, with respect for the original car. Plans are:
Exterior: all chrome will be replaced with black parts (OEM, still available, called dealer), car will be lowered, and gets wide wheels. Repaint in Le Mans blue (also fix any tiny bump or scratch, I want it to be perfect).
Interior: E36 M3 seats, and EVERYTHING (so including dashboard, roof, ...) in bicolor leather, very light grey, combined with mouse grey.
And maybe some ICE in the trunc, not sure yet...

I will make sure that the car will keep it's class.
 
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#5 ·
Frits said:
I believe it is Arktic blue... But the car has been repainted. Possible that this color is Royal blue...
Anyway, I'll repaint it in Le Mans blue. I know it's not an original M6 color, but I do like this color a lot.
About the wheels, I'll buy some 3-piece ACSchnitzer 17" wheels.

Actually, I'm planning on doing quite some mods on the car, and it's not gonna be complete original. Maybe most of you will think this is a shame, but I'll mod it, with respect for the original car. Plans are:
Exterior: all chrome will be replaced with black parts (OEM, still available, called dealer), car will be lowered, and gets wide wheels. Repaint in Le Mans blue (also fix any tiny bump or scratch, I want it to be perfect).
Interior: E36 M3 seats, and EVERYTHING (so including dashboard, roof, ...) in bicolor leather, very light grey, combined with mouse grey.
And maybe some ICE in the trunc, not sure yet...

I will make sure that the car will keep it's class.
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I like the removal of the chrome and going with the shadowline trim. Very stealth and always looks great.

Some deeeep lip AC Schnizters would look sweet.

Le Mans blue...are you going to go with a clear coat on that? I think it would look sweet without a clear coat (but of course a clear coat is a good thing to have).

Interesting idea on the interior. Bicolor M3 seats...not bad. The seats in the M6 were mildly lack luster...they should have put in the E28 M5 recaros into the M6.

Lets see some more pics when the mods start! :cool:
 
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#6 ·
Well, it's gonna be a very long-term project... The car is 21 years old now, and it'll be a lot cheaper to drive as soon as it's 25 years old. Since I'm paying tax and insurance for an E39 M5, an E36 M3, a VW Golf GTI and a Toyota Rav4, I'm willing to wait until the M6 is old enough.

What is exactly a 'clear coat'? My car-related English is getting better since I'm on the board, but I don't know this one yet...
 
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#8 ·
Ow, yeah, I think I'll go for 3 or 4 layers of this clear coating. That way the car will shine like a Ferrari :D I also think it suits the Le Mans blue color...

You happen to have some experience with parking a car for several years? I mean, I won't be driving the car for a while, and I don't want it to be full of rust when I'm finally ready to get it repainted, or have the tires unusable, or something like that.

I was planning to decouple the battery, cover the car with a special cover for cars, and at least once a month, remount the battery, let the engine run warm, attach plates from one of my other cars, and do a small drive in the neighborhood, and then park it again, decouple battery, and cover it.
Any other good ideas on this topic?

Just confirmed my order on a set of used M3 seats by the way :cheers:
 
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#100 ·
Storing a car long term off the road.

Frits said:
You happen to have some experience with parking a car for several years? I mean, I won't be driving the car for a while, and I don't want it to be full of rust when I'm finally ready to get it repainted, or have the tires unusable, or something like that.

I was planning to decouple the battery, cover the car with a special cover for cars, and at least once a month, remount the battery, let the engine run warm, attach plates from one of my other cars, and do a small drive in the neighborhood, and then park it again, decouple battery, and cover it.
Any other good ideas on this topic?
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If the battery is OK I would leave it in place and attach one of the intelligent maintenance chargers. These check condition automatically about once an hour and apply just enough charge to keep the battery healthy.
BMW lists one, but mine couple came from a Honda bike dealer and was intended for a motorcycle battery. Many motor cycles take a rest for 4 to 6 months in the winter and these little devices keep the system topped up but never over-charge. My Honda bike has a battery 11 years old which still performs like a new one. it keeps the alarm system active too.

Personally I would change the oil and filter and not start the engine, as this involves cold starts with high levels of fuel in the cylinders.
If you start it up then run it up to full temperature preferably by driving it for half and hour or more. Otherwise take out the spark plugs and inject a little engine oil in each cylinder before you store it and turn the engine over on the starter to spread it around.

Perhaps you can get away with borrowed plates on an unlicenced car in your country, but in the UK the police cars mostly have mobile direct access to the database which describes the car, it's colour and whether it has a current road tax and annual check. So unless the cars are identical models and colours you run the risk of serious trouble.

Finally tyres degrade with age, faster in strong sunlight, but to a noticeable degree even in a dark garage. 6 to 10 years is about the safe limit.

If it is dry and well ventilated rust should not be a serious problem, but you could get it treated with anti-rust injections before the storage begins.
 
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Frits said:
Since I can't find a better place to post about the E24 M6, I'll post it here. Last saterday, I went to Germany, and bought http://www.mobile.de/SIDTKSDI7sCeSqBtVODqCMc6w-t-vaNexlCsAsCsK%F3P%F3R~BmSB11LsearchPublicJ1129528454A1LsearchPublicD1100CCarX-t-vctpLtt~BmPA1A1B20B16%81O-t-vCaMkMoSeSmVb_X_Y_x_yposO~BSRA6D1100D3500C635CPKWC635HinPublicA2A0A0A0C184A0/cgi-bin/da.pl?bereich=pkw&top=4&id=11111111173943224&& this E24 M6. The owner hasn't taken it offline yet, so you can still wath the pictures.

I'll be picking her up in 4 weeks, after I made a carport to store it.

This is my all time favorite BMW classic! The state of the car is even better than on the pictures, except for the interior, that looks a little used. I'm planning on changing the interior anyway, so that's not really a problem.

I did a test drive with the car, and I noticed that I had to push the brakes really hard to get the car stopped. Would this be a problem with the brakes, or is this just how these old cars brake? I have an '88 VW Golf, and it seems to brake easier...

Ow, I'm so excited I finally bought my old dream car :wroom:
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Beautiful car - enjoy. :cheers: Be sure and update the board with your progress.
 
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de Witt said:
I like the removal of the chrome and going with the shadowline trim. Very stealth and always looks great.

Some deeeep lip AC Schnizters would look sweet.

Le Mans blue...are you going to go with a clear coat on that? I think it would look sweet without a clear coat (but of course a clear coat is a good thing to have).

Interesting idea on the interior. Bicolor M3 seats...not bad. The seats in the M6 were mildly lack luster...they should have put in the E28 M5 recaros into the M6.

Lets see some more pics when the mods start! :cool:
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Hi!
I believe Lemans blue is a metallic colour, that means it always has clear coat or am I wrong?

Frits: congratulations for your car, the M6 is one of my favourites too.
I know it`s your car but I`ll say it anyway...
The M6 is a rare car, soon to be collectable. Be sure that the mods you do are easy to convert to original if you later wish to do that. That makes the car easier to sell also, as Old classics with heavy modifications tend be a bit tough to sell.
LeMans blue is a fantastic colour, though modern colours can make older cars look a bit "pimped" i`ve seen an E24 in similar blue and while nice, It was a bit too bright for the old car. The E24 has always looked best in discreet colours (only my opinion)

One more time, congratulations! PICS! PICS! PICS!

:cheers:
Sakke
 
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#12 ·
I thought about the 'convertable' modifications. I think the only modifications that I won't be able to convert, is the widening of the wheel arches, for the wide rims.
As for the color, it'll probably be LeMans blue. I guess it should go nice in combination with the shadowline.

The car being hard to sell is not really a concern, since I'm not planning on selling it at all. My two other cars are also hard to sell. 325 with M3 engine isn't even legal where I live... But I do understand your comments, and I thought about it often.

There'll be plenty of pics as soon as the car is in Belgium.
 
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#13 ·
Got the car Saterday morning. Didn't have time to post pics till now, I was constantly driving :wroom:

As for the modifications, plans have slightly changed... I'll probably keep the seats, since I'm starting to like 'em. They'll be restaurated, and will look brand new.
I'm going to keep the color too. I'll have it completely repainted, just because I like perfection, but I'll stick with this color. The rest of the plans remains unchanged.

Btw, the ride home was amazing. Drove 250 km home without any problem. On the highway, I even did a little test, and 200 km/h in 4th gear was no problem at all. It could go a little faster in 4th, but I didn't want to hurt the car.
 

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Frits said:
Got the car Saterday morning. Didn't have time to post pics till now, I was constantly driving :wroom:

As for the modifications, plans have slightly changed... I'll probably keep the seats, since I'm starting to like 'em. They'll be restaurated, and will look brand new.
I'm going to keep the color too. I'll have it completely repainted, just because I like perfection, but I'll stick with this color. The rest of the plans remains unchanged.

Btw, the ride home was amazing. Drove 250 km home without any problem. On the highway, I even did a little test, and 200 km/h in 4th gear was no problem at all. It could go a little faster in 4th, but I didn't want to hurt the car.
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That car is way too beautiful to pimp like you've described in your earlier posts. Just fit a set of 16" e28 M5 wheels and you have a very rare unmolested M635CSi..... Most look like crap!
 
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Frits:
AS far as the brakes is concerned, just go the easy way to solve your braking problems. As someone replied before me: the system is exactly the same as the E28 ///M5, and that is a problem. In order to solve the inherent problems of the E24 and E28 ///Ms, just replace the 25mm master cylinder with the 27mmm, hubs and disks with those from a 1994 E34. It´s all strictly a bolt-on job. The master cylinder will provide you with a different front/rear bias (66/34 against 72/28), but one that will greatly improve braking and avoid warping the front rotors, plus the fact that parts are more easily available and cheaper all the way. If you want to go better than that, replace them with the whole assembly from a 750i or an 850i. Parts are easily available and very inexpensive.
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@keeperomega: great idea on the brakes! I'll make some phonecalls on Thursday to see what I can get.

The car is indeed in very good condition, but not perfect. For example, the front bumper is scratched on the driver's side, the driver's side mirror is damaged (will be replaced), the trunc has some scratches, the exhaust makes a weird sound between 3000 and 4000 rpm... I will try my best to get it back in perfect condition.

@Stevie: I don't think I'll be pimping the car too much? I'll make it a shadowline, which is original E24, so no pimping, I'll drop it a few inches, and put on some wide rims. That might be considered pimping, but it's easily removed. And for the interior, I'll only make it more classy than it is right now...
Check the picture below to see what it might look like when it's done, except for the color...
 

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Frits said:
@Stevie: I don't think I'll be pimping the car too much? I'll make it a shadowline, which is original E24, so no pimping, I'll drop it a few inches, and put on some wide rims. That might be considered pimping, but it's easily removed. And for the interior, I'll only make it more classy than it is right now...
Check the picture below to see what it might look like when it's done, except for the color...
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It's your car! Let's say opinions differ. IMHO your car is beautiful, the picture in your last post horrid. Just my $0.02
 
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The brake calipers and rotors change the bias, not the master cylinder.

Keeperomega said:
Frits:
AS far as the brakes is concerned, just go the easy way to solve your braking problems. As someone replied before me: the system is exactly the same as the E28 ///M5, and that is a problem. In order to solve the inherent problems of the E24 and E28 ///Ms, just replace the 25mm master cylinder with the 27mmm, hubs and disks with those from a 1994 E34. It´s all strictly a bolt-on job. The master cylinder will provide you with a different front/rear bias (66/34 against 72/28), but one that will greatly improve braking and avoid warping the front rotors, plus the fact that parts are more easily available and cheaper all the way. If you want to go better than that, replace them with the whole assembly from a 750i or an 850i. Parts are easily available and very inexpensive.
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I just called a company that sells used BMW parts (the same company where I got my E36 M3 engine). They had plenty of brake parts of E34s, E32s, and the prices would be good, they assured me. I just printed the tekst of the link above, and I'll go find out what are the best parts of the list they have on stock. For the rotors, I'll go for new ones, grooved, drilled, whatever I can find.
 
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Frits said:
@Stevie: I don't think I'll be pimping the car too much? I'll make it a shadowline, which is original E24, so no pimping, I'll drop it a few inches, and put on some wide rims. That might be considered pimping, but it's easily removed. And for the interior, I'll only make it more classy than it is right now...
Check the picture below to see what it might look like when it's done, except for the color...
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I know the owner of the black 635CSi.
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You bought your car in Trier?
Thats about 80km from my hometown Saarbrücken. :byebye:
I have some E24 too. But no M635 ouich

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My website:
http://www.my635.com/
 
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#25 ·
Hey Maggo,

nice website, with nice E24s! When I see these pictures, I can't wait to start driving mine, and come to the E24 meetings. But I stick to the idea of waiting till it's an oldtimer. It would cost me over 1000 € a year on tax, add a few 100 for insureance, and then I haven't even driven it. Having already 2 expensive cars, this would be to much...

Got some news on the brake upgrade. I found some used callipers of a 850i for the front, and from a 540i for the rear. Also found a brake cylinder of a 750i. Total price: 200€ :D The brake pads and the rotors will be more expensive, since these will be new.
 
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#26 ·
I changed my mind... I installed clear front indicators, and I put the wheels of my E39 on the E24, just to have a look.

I like it this way. I'll lower it about 2 inches at the front side, and 1 inch at the rear side. No coilovers needed (almost hopeless to find).

I just ordered a set of AC Schnitzer Type I wheels, in 10*18 ET 0 and 12*18 ET 0. They are a little bit too wide, but not enough to widen the wheel arches, so the exterior of the car can remain completely stock.

With the clear indicators, I really like the chrome lines, and I'm not going for the shadowline conversion anymore. I guess this looks much better.

I know you guys probably think the wheels are too wide, but I'll go for it anyway (money deposit is completed).
 

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