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post #1 of 11 Old 8th March 2017, 06:37 PM Thread Starter
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BMW Concourse 05/07/2017 - 34th Annual Deutsche Marque Concours d'Elegance, Vienna, VA

It is that time again to break out your clean Beast and allow others to see her.

BMW CCA REGISTRATION ONLY
Porsche and Mercedes-Benz club members must register on their respective clubs' sites.
You must be a current BMW CCA member to register.

Register here: 34th Annual Deutsche Marque Concours d'Elegance info on May 7, 2017 (593174) | MotorsportReg.com

There is no charge or need to register to attend the concours as a spectator.

If you have questions on Sunday/day of show please call me (John McWilliams) at 571-699-4404. I will be at Nottoway Park at approximately 8AM.

Map:Nottoway Park: Map/Directions

One of the highlights of our event schedule, and an annual rite of spring for German car fans, is the Deutsche Marque Concours d’Elegance. This year marks the 34th time that we have gathered with our friends from the Greater Washington Section of the Mercedes-Benz Club of America (MBCA) and the Potomac Region of the Porsche Club of America (PCA) for this terrific show. Once again, we have reserved Nottoway Park, located at 9601 Courthouse Road in Vienna, easily reached via Route 66. The park entrance will be marked with large car club banners so that you cannot miss it.

As in recent years, a “corral” will be positioned along the entrance to the park to display special cars not being judged. Space will be limited. More vendors are anticipated. The judged entrants from the three marques will be interspersed, allowing visitors the opportunity to see more of the fabulous cars assembled.

In the Deutsche Marque Concours, vehicles are judged by their condition, appearance, and cleanliness. There will be three classes at this event - Street (judged), Meister class (judged - consisting of first-place category winners from the 2016 concours), and Display class (not judged - winner selected by people’s choice balloting). Judges scoring cars in the Street and Meister classes will only judge the tops of the cars, including the exterior, interior, engine bay, storage compartments and chrome, but not the chassis. Street class cars are generally divided into several groups based upon BMW CCA national concours rules.

Please note: Cars produced after 2012 will not be judged, but are welcome to be entered in the Display class, and eligible for the People's Choice and Judges' Choice awards.

Vehicles will be classified into the following categories:

Classics
2002s
Modern 1980s - E30 3 Series, E28 5 Series, E24 6 Series, E23 7 Series, M1 and Z1
Modern 1990s - E36 3 Series, E34 5 Series, E32 7 Series, E31 8 Series and Z3
Modern 2000s - E46 3 Series, E39 5 Series, E38 7 Series, 6, Z4 and Z8
Current - E87 1 Series, E90/91/92/93 3 Series, E60 5 Series, E63 6 Series, E65 7 Series, E83 X3, E53/E70 X5 and E71 X6

8:30 AM Field opens to show participants for placement onto the field.
9:00 AM General admission begins.
10:00 AM All cars whose owners wish them to be judged must be registered, and cars placed on the field. If you would like to be judged, PLEASE have your car on the field by 10:00 AM. We do our best to judge everyone consistently and fairly, and can do this best if we have sufficient time. Thank you!
10:30 AM Judging begins.
2:30 - 3:00 PM After the judging is completed, scores are tallied, and winners determined, we will announce winners at the wine and cheese reception.
approx. 3:00 PM Wine and Cheese Reception - Awards for all clubs will be presented at the Wine and Cheese Reception.

Note: The concours is an all-day event. The organizers of all the clubs will be working diligently prior to the show as well as on the day of the event. Please also respect the hard work by the participants who have prepared their cars for the show. If you enter the event, please be prepared to stay through the awards presentation. If your vehicle places in its class and you have departed the field, the award will be given to the next runner-up in class. Further, in order to be fair to all the participants, we need to have sufficient time to judge all the cars consistently and fairly. We can't do that if people show up at 11:30 a.m. and ask to have their cars judged. We're not trying to be difficult, only respecting the efforts many of our club members make to prepare their cars for the concours. Thank you in advance for your cooperation and understanding.

Contact John McWilliams at [email protected] if you have any questions.

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Thanks for posting this info, Stephen!

6 weeks until the big show - we know OptimusPrimeM5 & Stephen's cars are already spotless! If you aren't able to attend or interested in the concours, the local chapter of the BMW club is having a cars & coffee gathering at BMW of Sterling on Saturday, May 6th. C&C starts at 9 AM. You do not need to be a club member to attend.

Chapter Event 05/06/2017 - BMW CCA New Member/Cars & Coffee/DIY - BMW of Sterling
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Well now there are two places that weekend to meet and gather all things BMW. Sounds like fun. I will break out my e39 wagon for the Cars and Coffee meet up.
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Thumbs up Great Results from the show

Mark's Chia pet (Chiarettorot metallic (894)) 2003 M5 took Master Class over all of the previous class winners. All his work and efforts to move up payed off well. Great results. This color must be seen in the sunlight as every viewing angle makes the color shift across the spectrum. Only 15 people asked what color is that this year down from over 20 last year. Since my TiSi sat next to his, most attendees just walked by since when you have seen one Silver BMW you have seen them all....
invisible.

MY 2002 M5 TiSi took the 2000's Modern class win and took home the best in show beating Mark's score by only .5 points. We literally walked away with all the goodies this year. It was a great turnout as the weather cleared for the entire day allowing more cars than normal to come out and play. The normal show field was wet from all the rain we shifted down the park to the lower parking lot making it a little crowded but perfect. It was really nice seeing all the "old stuff" this year.

It is hard to wrap your head around the fact that our models are now 16+ years old but are placed in "Modern" classes.
I will post some pics tomorrow.

Congrats to John of BMWCCA National Capital Area for all his hard work in organizing, managing, and MCing the event.

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Stephen,

Do you have any detailed, close-up high resolution pictures of the M5s? Just curious what level of prep/cleanliness looks like to win at a show like this one.

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Stephen,

Do you have any detailed, close-up high resolution pictures of the M5s? Just curious what level of prep/cleanliness looks like to win at a show like this one.
Too many and lots of Q-Tips too!

The process is really just about disassembly, cleaning and reassembly. Every part must be cleaned, aligned, and new "looking". most stuff just needs a good cleaning. All cosmoline must be removed, paint polished, hood pad replaced, touch up all chips, interior to the dust levels.
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So are you down graded for dust that settles on the car, on open engine compartment, etc, from the time they call everyone off the cars? i.e. Is it better to be judged first in line, time-wise, than last?

Thanks for the pictures...looks amazing! I keep my M5 and M3 super clean, but if I concours prepped one of them, I'm not sure I'd want to drive it afterward, lol.

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That does become "The Question" after 40+ hrs to detail a clean car to super clean levels necessary to be in the top slots.

On this particular judging day, they do not take off for "field dust" Pollen, flying leaves etc as they are constant. The judges are looking for grime, grease, untouched area no so much "dust". The gap between clean and super clean is real obvious on first looks.

By the way the engine shot was Marks engine bay before 20 hrs of detailing this year
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