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post #11 of 85 Old 27th July 2016, 05:46 AM
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Evening Jim, was making arrangements to purchase the new tune you have developed for the M5 and didn't see the code option for the discount for M5 board members - is it still available ?


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Is there any limitation in number of times we can apply tunes to the DME?


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Evening Jim, was making arrangements to purchase the new tune you have developed for the M5 and didn't see the code option for the discount for M5 board members - is it still available ?


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Yes, once you add it to your cart, there is a field below to enter the coupon code "M5BOARD".

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Is there any limitation in number of times we can apply tunes to the DME?
Technically there is, but it's in the thousands. The 64 write limit some speak of refers to the AIF (user information) fields and those record the date, VIN, and version during a write. AIFs are only written with BMW software (ISTA/P or WinKFP), so none of those slots are used with aftermarket tuning.
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Some new features are in the works. Some may not be new to the S85 world, but new to us. On the other hand, some may just be new altogether.

- Modified Rev limiter in both cold and hot oil conditions. As we know there are some "concerns" about the S85 rod bearings potentially related to oil temperatures. While I personally don't feel that cold oil alone is responsible for the wear patterns we've seen, there's no question that colder oil will not flow as easily and it's unhealthy to wind the engine up high without proper flow. These rev limiting modifications are meant to be more restrictive in colder oil to keep the owner honest and even more so, to protect the engine when someone unaware of the S85's sensitivity may be driving. Additionally, hot oil can be a concern as well and while the detrimental effects may be via different mechanism than cold oil, the idea here is to limit the RPM of the engine and therefore the heat generation into the oil until the cooling system can catch up; or in the event of a cooling system casualty to protect the engine.

- SMG Shift characteristics remapping. Certainly not the first to play in this arena, but I was unwilling to offer anything here until I had tested it and fully understood all the variables, formulas, limiters, and maps associated with this. This took quite a bit of work digging around not only in the mss65's maps and functional documents, but in the SMG3 module data files looking at the variables and tables as well. There are a staggering number of things which can be modified here for improved performance when the goals are different than that of an OEM such as torque reserves, slip limits, as well as the shift speed and torque matching parameters. This will be an ongoing development with the end goal of two different "characters", one being significantly more aggressive than the other.

- VANOS adjustment speed improvement. One of the more odd limitations imposed by the DME is the rate at which it is allowed to change VANOS timing. This is still under development and dyno testing ongoing. Initially, this is showing improved mid-range responsiveness, but more testing will be conducted to quantify the results.

- Alphan-N is one I get asked about the most and while I'm happy to tune an existing Alpha-N car, I haven't offered it as an option for cars without the modifications necessary yet. This is changing soon as our 3D printing capability comes online so we can finally manufacture what has truly been missing here: Plug and Play Alpha-N sensors. To me, a product isn't quite finished and ready for the end consumer if it requires cutting and modifying the car's wiring harness. BMW and Tyco electronics have an exclusive agreement for many of the electrical connectors used on these cars and they are not able to be sourced anywhere but BMW and in some cases at all. MAF plugs match this description, so our answer is to 3D print a pin housing that will allow an IAT sensor to plug straight into the MAF connector on the engine wire harness.

As always, any further developments will be offered to existing customers free of charge. This is not a static product and there are very few companies out the continuing development on this platform. My focus is not chasing numbers on dynos or Vbox, but there have been some great results reported. To me, this is about further enhancing the capability and feel of the car, to the maximum extent allowed with the stock DME by determining what constraints exist and careful analysis of why they exist before pushing them. Thanks for your support and positive feedback, that's the part that makes this all fun for me.
Jim, I have been trying to get a hold of you. Interested in your Tune but have a few questions specific to my setup. If you could shoot me a PM or give me a call thanks...
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Very interested in this tune for my e60 m5!

What of these options can you code on your tune?

Sap delete (w/ readiness)

Seatbelt chime disable for driver, passenger, or both seats.
Disable iDrive disclaimer
Windows Up & Down with key & comfort access
Window safety feature (When window is rolling up, you can open the door without it stopping)
Double Blinking Euro Hazards
Brake Force Lights with regular brake lights
Delete Amber front headlights (euro look)
Alarm beep loudness adjust
Remove Bulb Check Errors (IE Install of HIDs or LED lighting)
Remove Ignition/Door gong


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Where do i add m5 board during checkout on mobile? I cant see any option

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Where do i add m5 board during checkout on mobile? I cant see any option
If you go to "view cart" it will be a drop down box there to add coupon code.
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Very interested here. A few quick Questions:

-How does the SMG tune compare to the EURO software for SMG?
-How far along are you with the Alpha-N?
-Do you charge extra for each option or is all included?
-Is there a charge for updates or if future modifications are added such as de-cating or Alpha-N?

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Tint 5% All around
Tail Light Tint
Windows up and Mirror Fold with FOB
Carbon Filter Delete
Primary & Secondary Cats and Res Delete
FAMS Tune Stage II
Euro SMG Flash
ModMyNav MMI & Backup Camera
Escort Hardwire
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Very interested here. A few quick Questions:

-How does the SMG tune compare to the EURO software for SMG?
-How far along are you with the Alpha-N?
-Do you charge extra for each option or is all included?
-Is there a charge for updates or if future modifications are added such as de-cating or Alpha-N?
Hello Joseph,

- The SMG modifications that I make are completely different from the the Euro SMG firmware. My alterations are to the shift command characteristics inside the DME calibration and nothing to do with how the SMG computer actually carries out those commands. The end result is improved shift speeds and comfort at all RPM/Load combinations.

- I haven't pursued it much yet as I'm still learning my prototyping hardware. Once I can manufacture the kit components myself, I will make it available

- No charge for any options, with the exception of the future alpha-N arrangement since it will require additional pieces for installation.

- No charge for updates in the future (within reason of course) as you modify your car.

If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me at the email address below. Private Messaging here on the forum is difficult to keep consolidated and track conversations, so email is preferred.
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Very interested in this tune for my e60 m5!

What of these options can you code on your tune?

Sap delete (w/ readiness)

Seatbelt chime disable for driver, passenger, or both seats.
Disable iDrive disclaimer
Windows Up & Down with key & comfort access
Window safety feature (When window is rolling up, you can open the door without it stopping)
Double Blinking Euro Hazards
Brake Force Lights with regular brake lights
Delete Amber front headlights (euro look)
Alarm beep loudness adjust
Remove Bulb Check Errors (IE Install of HIDs or LED lighting)
Remove Ignition/Door gong


TThanks

You want to look at feature "Coding" instead of ECU tuning. The easiest way to to purchase Carly for BMW. Its a Bluetooth enabled dongle that plugs into the ODB port and can be used for daigs and feature coding with the accompanying app for android or iphone. The other method is to search the forums for the cable and software you need to read the modules and options in the car.

http://www.mycarly.com/product/bmw-app/

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Tint 5% All around
Tail Light Tint
Windows up and Mirror Fold with FOB
Carbon Filter Delete
Primary & Secondary Cats and Res Delete
FAMS Tune Stage II
Euro SMG Flash
ModMyNav MMI & Backup Camera
Escort Hardwire

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