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post #1 of 30 Old 15th February 2005, 07:29 PM Thread Starter
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E60 535D - BMW Fastest Diesel 353 HP (!!!)

Cheers,

Check out this E60 535D reprogrammed to develop 353HP...

http://www.speed-factor.net/news.php3

This is probably the world's fastest BMW diesel up to now.

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post #2 of 30 Old 15th February 2005, 07:48 PM
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Re: E60 535D - BMW Fastest Diesel 353 HP (!!!)

Welcome to the board

723Nm torque is very impressive as well.




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Welcome to the board

723Nm torque is very impressive as well.
I drove the base 535D last week and I have to say it is quite a car. I would have to work hard to lose it in my E39 m5 on the straight. It doesn't have the cornering balance or surefootedness of the M car though, so cornering is a different matter. It's quite a nose-heavy car. I was however quite disappointed with the ride. Compared to a 520i loaner it was quite rough. I blame the run-flats, they suck!

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dont worry.. the meatiness of the diesel is only at lower gears... in 4th and 5th it runs out of gear and the e39 m5 will gain but in a light-to-light race i imagine this engine is a tough opponent...

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Welcome @ the board! - That sounds great. that means the strongest pcar diesel, vw V-10 TDI isnt the strongest anymore (@313iHP)

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dont worry.. the meatiness of the diesel is only at lower gears... in 4th and 5th it runs out of gear and the e39 m5 will gain but in a light-to-light race i imagine this engine is a tough opponent...
I think you might be wrong on this one. Since the car has 2 turbos one works in low rpm and the second one in high. So this diesel unlike others has the power all the time. That is whats so special about this diesel. My dad owns a E60 545i M/paket and I know that E60 535d has a better acceleration from 80 - 120km/h than the E60 545i. AND THATS IMPRESSIVE

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I think you might be wrong on this one. Since the car has 2 turbos one works in low rpm and the second one in high. So this diesel unlike others has the power all the time. That is whats so special about this diesel. My dad owns a E60 545i M/paket and I know that E60 535d has a better acceleration from 80 - 120km/h than the E60 545i. AND THATS IMPRESSIVE
the fact that the m5 has more power means that puts more torque to the ground than the diesel when operating in high engine rpms, the extra rpms of SI over CI allow it to be geared to provide more tractive effort (force). Look at the power! this tells the m5 has more top end torque to the ground which is most noticeable in a 4th and 5th gear race. The diesel would have good bottom end and midrange grunt though.
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Re: E60 535D - BMW Fastest Diesel 353 HP (!!!)

in so many words- what digger said.

or to put it differently- the diesel has more tq, but fewer revs (lower redline). this forces the gearbox to be geared very long so the diesel will not run out of revs at higher speeds. well, it just happens so that even with its monstrous torque, at higher speeds the gearing is so steep that it actually puts less tq to the wheels thus providing weaker acceleration.

on the same token, at lower and midrange, where roadspeeds are lower and allow shorter gears, the diesel shines.

a rule of the thumb is that diesels are superior to 100ish mph (more torque, ok gearing) and petrol engines- above that (less torque but much more favorable gearing resulting in more tq to the wheels)...

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Re: E60 535D - BMW Fastest Diesel 353 HP (!!!)

It would interesting to see a tuner setup the turbos to run parallel. I wonder what that would do to the power output? I know its popular on the Supra's and RX-7's.
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It would interesting to see a tuner setup the turbos to run parallel. I wonder what that would do to the power output? I know its popular on the Supra's and RX-7's.
actually both cars in question have sequential turbos. parallel turbos are typical for V-engines so one turbo can feed one bank. however, on the rx7 there are two sequential smaller turbos running all the time (if i remember correctly) and on the supra the 2 sequential turbos have different housings and are controlled electronically for one to provide boost below 4500 rpms and the other to join in above that..

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