90 kph = 55.9 mph. I dont think you will see a sub 4 second quoted by BMW. 600bhp, I dont think that is in the cards as well. Hope I am wrong, but I doubt it
Simple typo.. I meant to type 0-100kph at the top of the post. At the bottom of the post I wrote it correctly (100kph). I hope your wrong about that too. Have you seen the photos of the F10 M5 engine? It looks double the size of the X5M's 555HP motor.
If it's not 600hp minimum then they better make the engine & components smaller, because it's a waste of metal/weight!
Updated the post, thanks for catching it.
The F10 M5 is set to weigh roughly 800 lbs less than the X5M (4.4 sec), and will no doubt match the Audi RS6 V10 (580HP). With that Power/Weight ratio, it has a good chance of hitting the 4.0 sec mark. The real test is 0-100-0, do that in 13 seconds and we have a supercar!
I think that it will defiantly be a sub four second car, and that is being conservative. By clocking the 0-100kph/0-60mph time from the video of the German test driver using L/C, I easily clocked sub-four second times. This almost guarantees the F10 M5 will be a sub-four second car.
I think you make a number of very good points. I have to agree that BMW isn't releasing the final HP figures yet, because of competitive considerations. With a turbo engine, you have incredible flexibility to 'adjust' the hp just by turning up the boost, and I'm sure the good engineers at BMW have constructed a 'reliability vs boost' graph that includes an 'acceptable window' of reliability. There is also probably a 'HP vs cost' curve for a set reliability. If they issue a press release of a 600 HP engine today, that just gives Audi and Mercedes that much more time develop an engine to beat it.
I also think that given European launch control, the car will definitely hit 60 in under 4 seconds. I just don't know if we'll get it here in the US.
Exactly.. BMW loves to be ahead of the competition, and that is why the E60 was such a success. It's great for marketing, and exactly what the enthusiasts want. It is official (from the mouth of M) that the F10 will be at the top of the competition. It explains M's silent treatment, and while many are upset over the lack of performance details/information made available, I think M is doing this right.
Now with changing their power-plant from N/A to T/T, the rules of the game have changed... BMW's "Performance Parts" line might even introduce an ECU upgrade some time after production. Maybe say, 2 years later so the F10 M5 can better compete against newer competition (2014MY/2015MY). Also, since a performance exhaust was made available for the M3, I think that the BMW Performance Parts line will also carry an exhaust upgrade for the F10 M5 at some point in time after production.
I think we will be seeing more things that are out of character for M. First was the transition from N/A to T/T. Second might
be AWD. Probably more to come, we will find out a lot more on the F10 M5 in two weeks time.
Regardless of these changes and the new direction M is going.. it's not that bad. The F10 M5 will probably reclaim "The Beast" title and be better in every way (performance, handling, luxury, convenience) than the E60 M5.
Nice INFO, I hope the price is "Sensible" and not "Silly" as Mercedes have set the bench mark with the CLS V8 5.5 engine @ around £80K UK.
I hope BMW undercut this basic price but at least £10K .
The F10 M5 will defiantly be more expensive.. it will also have a lot more technology which brings the price up - but technology is usually always options, meaning you can choose to purchase them. It will also have the option of carbon-ceramic brakes ($10k+ option). If the E60 M5 MSRP was $85k and options out to $100k, then it might be a decent guess to say $95k and optioned out at maximum of $120? Just a guess.