E63 SMG lll - Beast down for 8 months!( canada ! ) - BMW M5 Forum and M6 Forums
E63 BMW M6 Forum and BMW M6 Convertible | m6board.com 2005- Advertiser's Forum.

 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
post #1 of 10 Old 4th June 2019, 09:35 PM Thread Starter
xomas_m6
Junior Member, warming up (<31 posts)
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Posts: 3
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
E63 SMG lll - Beast down for 8 months!( canada ! )

Hi Everyone,


this is my first post in years... so please pardon my language if not accurate.... Btw I'm in Toronto - Ontario-Canada now.


I own an E63 2005 M6 ( yup one of the first) since then I probably had the clutch changed like 5 times and flywheel 3 times ( Car as 102,000 KM on it) between 2005 - 2016 I lived and had the car repaired in The Netherlands before I moved to Toronto Canada ( shipped the car with me).


My Journey of Pain:


Aug 2018 car gives transmission erros ( Engine Fault, Transmission fault) puts its self in neutral upon restarting the egine it would drive.


Sep 2018 approx. 4 weeks later Car breaks down ( thankfully I had just stopped in the garage), care was on neutral, wont put a gear on nor start.
Jan 2019


Jan 2019 after 4 months of trouble shooting the mechanic ( indy) says it was the slave cylinder ( ripped me off for a gas tank pump, ECS programming, wiring etc..) I believe there was also water that went into the car that damaged the cables, however the car was running.


Jan 2019 2 weeks later the driving on the highway @90km/h the car starts to loose power, its as if the clutch was seizing I tried to keep going but the loss of power was continuous so I managed thankfully to pull to the side, stopped, some codes came out about clutch overheating, transmission fault, I let the car /clutch cool down for 2 hours started but nope there was no movement what so ever, however car could be put in neutral.


June 2019 Mechanic announces his complete failure ( after 5 months !!!) said he changed the clutch and bearing and flywheel but the car still wont move nor put on a gear !!! it's insane !




I Don't know what to do... could it be a faulty installation from his side ? could there be any other root cause to that other than the clutch ? I wouldn't go to the stealership as they said replacing the clutch/flywheel is like a 10,000 c$ job !!


Finally , if anyone knows an SMG expert in Toronto-Ontario, Canada ... please pass me on the contact... I am desperate and its too frustrating... any advise/guidance would be great.....I don't want to do anything anymore until I get advise from you guys....it's almost IMPOSSIBLE to find an SMG expert around here !!!


p.s I have other side isses like massive gas consumption ( 240 km a tank more or less driving in the city, used to do 350-380 in the past). and a suspension issue ( clunking from te right side when I turn the wheel as if there is a coupling seizing...)


Thanks
Xomas
xomas_m6 is online now  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 10 Old 4th June 2019, 09:41 PM
Awbimmer
Fellow Member (>400)
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 410
Thanks: 4
Thanked 13 Times in 13 Posts
I'm sorry to hear of your problems. It really sounds like you should just sell it as its giving more trouble than anything else. Would you not consider getting rid and relieving yourself of all these on going issues?

On a side note, do you have any fault codes as that will help point you in the right direction?!

Thanks

Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk
Awbimmer is online now  
post #3 of 10 Old 4th June 2019, 10:01 PM Thread Starter
xomas_m6
Junior Member, warming up (<31 posts)
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Posts: 3
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
thanks ....


it's just very dear to My heart this car.. .I'd like to keep it...


I'll get back to you asap with the codes, on my way to tow it from the mechanic.....
xomas_m6 is online now  
 
post #4 of 10 Old 4th June 2019, 10:43 PM
flacoramos
m5board.comoholic (>1000 posts)
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: IL
Posts: 1,171
Thanks: 4
Thanked 94 Times in 92 Posts
I know exactly what you need... a new mechanic.

Can't recommend anyone but most / all SMG issues are well documented here. Since you're paying for labor you will likely want to just install a refurb'd SMG unit from Jim or elsewhere and call it good for another 100k.
flacoramos is offline  
post #5 of 10 Old 5th June 2019, 03:41 PM
Conspiracy795
Junior Member, warming up (<31 posts)
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Posts: 7
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I have two places you can check that have worked on both my E63 M6's. My first one was a 2006, no problems before I sold it.
My current one is a 2010 with no issues. I guess I am lucky. I had 160,000km on the 06 and have 140,000km on the 2010.

Check out these two places

RMP Motors.

and

Bimmersport.

I've been to both. The owner of bimmersport owns a E60 M5 so he's worked on the engine.

The owner of RMP motors has done a LOT of work on the S65/s85 engine from what I've heard. They both specialize in BMWs.
Conspiracy795 is offline  
post #6 of 10 Old 7th June 2019, 06:19 PM
Truenorth
Junior Member, warming up (<31 posts)
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 28
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
As post states above those 2 shops should sort you out. I’m in Toronto and you NEED to know where to take it. If they can’t help, Clarkson Fine Cars has sorted out my Smg issues a few times.
Truenorth is offline  
post #7 of 10 Old 19th June 2019, 06:14 PM
mugenfoo
Member, Sport: Off DSC: On (>50 posts)
 
mugenfoo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: 101 East
Posts: 96
Thanks: 28
Thanked 22 Times in 21 Posts
Oh man ... i feel your pain. Having to replace my SMG clutch recently , and studied the SMG tranny up close and personal ... these things aren't really rocket science. Their complexities are over-rated and faults are actually easily rectifiable. As someone mentioned earlier, better to refer to a competent mechanic who won't make a mountain out of an ant hill over SMG issues.

As for me, i'd run the SMG adaptation routines (more specifically, the clutch valve characteristics and also the clutch slip-in values) each time i feel the tranny isn't shifting too nicely. Probably doing it like 1 or twice a year but I'm kinda OCD. As for the SMG electrohydraulic shifting points, i noticed that these don't deviate too much over time and they're pretty stable so far.

Also get your car's integration level up to the latest one available. There was a Tech Service Bulletin that highlighted some SMG software bugs in module versions prior to 2007 or 2008's integration level.

- M(ugen)Foo

From VTEC to VANOS
mugenfoo is offline  
post #8 of 10 Old 28th June 2019, 12:40 AM
pizdous
Fellow Member (>400)
 
pizdous's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Orange County, California
Posts: 468
Thanks: 99
Thanked 46 Times in 37 Posts
Purchase a new SMG Pump motor and have it replaced or get INSTA + installed on your laptop buy yourself the Dcan Cable and replace the motor and re-bleed your SMG system using Insta. pretty sure that will fix your issue.

Good luck!

Quote:
Originally Posted by xomas_m6 View Post
Hi Everyone,


this is my first post in years... so please pardon my language if not accurate.... Btw I'm in Toronto - Ontario-Canada now.


I own an E63 2005 M6 ( yup one of the first) since then I probably had the clutch changed like 5 times and flywheel 3 times ( Car as 102,000 KM on it) between 2005 - 2016 I lived and had the car repaired in The Netherlands before I moved to Toronto Canada ( shipped the car with me).


My Journey of Pain:


Aug 2018 car gives transmission erros ( Engine Fault, Transmission fault) puts its self in neutral upon restarting the egine it would drive.


Sep 2018 approx. 4 weeks later Car breaks down ( thankfully I had just stopped in the garage), care was on neutral, wont put a gear on nor start.
Jan 2019


Jan 2019 after 4 months of trouble shooting the mechanic ( indy) says it was the slave cylinder ( ripped me off for a gas tank pump, ECS programming, wiring etc..) I believe there was also water that went into the car that damaged the cables, however the car was running.


Jan 2019 2 weeks later the driving on the highway @90km/h the car starts to loose power, its as if the clutch was seizing I tried to keep going but the loss of power was continuous so I managed thankfully to pull to the side, stopped, some codes came out about clutch overheating, transmission fault, I let the car /clutch cool down for 2 hours started but nope there was no movement what so ever, however car could be put in neutral.


June 2019 Mechanic announces his complete failure ( after 5 months !!!) said he changed the clutch and bearing and flywheel but the car still wont move nor put on a gear !!! it's insane !




I Don't know what to do... could it be a faulty installation from his side ? could there be any other root cause to that other than the clutch ? I wouldn't go to the stealership as they said replacing the clutch/flywheel is like a 10,000 c$ job !!


Finally , if anyone knows an SMG expert in Toronto-Ontario, Canada ... please pass me on the contact... I am desperate and its too frustrating... any advise/guidance would be great.....I don't want to do anything anymore until I get advise from you guys....it's almost IMPOSSIBLE to find an SMG expert around here !!!


p.s I have other side isses like massive gas consumption ( 240 km a tank more or less driving in the city, used to do 350-380 in the past). and a suspension issue ( clunking from te right side when I turn the wheel as if there is a coupling seizing...)


Thanks
Xomas

Follow me on Instagram @MlifeM6

E36 M3, E46 M3, E39 M6, E63 M6 Visit My YouTube Channel for Vids!

BMW ///MLifeM6
pizdous is offline  
post #9 of 10 Old 6th July 2019, 06:20 PM Thread Starter
xomas_m6
Junior Member, warming up (<31 posts)
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Posts: 3
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Guys thanks for all your help, ROM motors was busy.

Update:

Car runs again !I went to autobahn east in ajax, the owner mark apprently is extrmely experienced with M's, turns out to be just a clutch and the fork as for the mossfire it was just an ifnition coil .. amazing guy really, once again thanks for all your help!!
xomas_m6 is online now  
post #10 of 10 Old Today, 01:03 AM
Awbimmer
Fellow Member (>400)
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 410
Thanks: 4
Thanked 13 Times in 13 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by xomas_m6 View Post
Guys thanks for all your help, ROM motors was busy.

Update:

Car runs again !I went to autobahn east in ajax, the owner mark apprently is extrmely experienced with M's, turns out to be just a clutch and the fork as for the mossfire it was just an ifnition coil .. amazing guy really, once again thanks for all your help!!
Glad to hear it's all sorted! Enjoy in good health!
Awbimmer is online now  
Reply

Bookmarks

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the BMW M5 Forum and M6 Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in











Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 2 (0 members and 2 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Linear Mode Linear Mode
Rate This Thread:



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome