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post #1 of 99 Old 7th June 2011, 09:25 PM Thread Starter
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To our new & young board members

Welcome again to our board.

We care a lot about our young generation, you are our future so we do what we can to educate you and protect you.
And since I am sharing kind of guy - I will share more info with you on what I have learned over the years.

1) Remember that it is not all about gaining speed and making our car go fast.
Driver skills is just as important, and also making our car lighter weight.

Speaking of driving skills - I highly recommend young drivers take Defensive driving schools, Car Control Clinic, then high performance driving school.
It is usually offered by your local BMW CCA chapter. Join BMW CCA and check your local chapters bulletin board for school dates.
Or you can take the M driving school.

As you know, our public driving schools is a joke. (Parallel parking, turn signals, etc.)

2) Respect the power of the machine.

The V10 is a very powerful engine and if you dont respect it - you will get hurt.
See thread below. These folks are former members here.
Their posts were mostly "how can I make my car go faster".

Sadly, they took some serious risks, didnt respect the power of the beast and they paid dearly.
No one survived.

https://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/e60...-5-killed.html

3) Get to know your car really well. Learn its limits and breaking point.
Know when you break traction, learn its limitations.

4) DO NOT turn off DSC unless you really know your car and have spent enough time with her.

I highly encourage you folks to find a deserted street or empty parking lot on weekends.
Turn off DSC, push your car hard and learn the limits of your beast.
This is the preferred location, not on public roads.

5) Always adjust your driving habits dependent on road and weather conditions.
Slow down if the roads are wet or icy.

6) NEVER weave in and out of traffic.

7) Never tail gate. NO ONE likes being tail gated.
Allow enough distance for you to brake properly and not irritate drivers in front of you.

8) Keep right unless you are passing.

9) Drive fast only when it is safe to do so.

10) Never let the car warm up by sitting idle. As the owners manual have stated - drive immediately at moderate speed.
This allows not only the engine but also the rest of the car, transmission, tires, bearings, steering wheel, etc all warm up.

11) Best tire adhesion starts around 106F. Anything less than that - your tires will be slipping & sliding.
Allow the tires to warm up in order to avoid DSC intervention.

That's good for now. You all take care.

Dan

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smart words dan i am a young m owner and i cant agree with this tread enough, i have owned driven borrowed fast cars since i past and i have had friends whom have crashed lots of cars all due to excessive speed and not enough experience in certain situations that have resulted in bad accidents none fatal apart from the car me included years ago, if you don't respect the car you drive regardless of what it is it will kill you,
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Thanks pardoe101.

Us old farts are lucky. We didnt have 500hp cars growing up to put our lives in danger each day we drive.

Our younger generation (I am 53 years old) face a lot of challenges each day.
From driving high powered machines, to texting, to using cell phones while driving, iPad, high powered stereo, iPod, etc.
The above each day is a struggle trying to stay alive.

When we were growing up too - if we had an issue with anyone, sometimes we go home with a blackeye.
Nowadays crazy people out there will shoot someone for nothing. WTF?

So each day, we try to survive our crazy world.

Education, good information and good decisions is a must have nowadays if we want to stay in this world longer.

Dan

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One more item:

Kindly make the time to read your owners manual.
You will see that a lot of your questions are actually listed already in your owners manual with answers.

The manual will also educate you on how to enjoy your beast to its fullest (learning all the nice features it has)

Like: If you want to shut down your engine and leave the accessories to remain on - push the engine shut down switch briefly.
The engine will shut down but you can still make bluetooth phone calls and listen to the stereo system and play around with maps.

If you want a complete engine shutdown - press and hold the engine off switch. The navigation, bluetooth, stereo system, LED displays, etc, will all completely shut down.

Press and hold the remote control door open switch - the doors will unlock and windows will roll down.

Insert the key to the door lock, turn to the right to lock the doors, continue to hold the key on the 3 oclock position and the windows will roll up.

Briefly pull on the headlight high beam stalk after engine shut down and your headlights will remain on for a couple minutes so you can see inside your garage at night. They call this Pathway Lighting.

Lots more.........

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smart words dan i am a young m owner and i cant agree with this tread enough, i have owned driven borrowed fast cars since i past and i have had friends whom have crashed lots of cars all due to excessive speed and not enough experience in certain situations that have resulted in bad accidents none fatal apart from the car me included years ago, if you don't respect the car you drive regardless of what it is it will kill you,
Is there something wrong with your keyboard?
It seems the shift, period and return keys are broken

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Dan,

Thanks for such an insightful and well-thought out post. Though some parts are specific to our beasts, the tone of the piece should resonate with every young motorist and their parents. Thanks for ANOTHER valuable contribution to our community.

Kindest Regards,
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Welcome again to our board.

We care a lot about our young generation, you are our future so we do what we can to educate you and protect you.
And since I am sharing kind of guy - I will share more info with you on what I have learned over the years.

1) Remember that it is not all about gaining speed and making our car go fast.
Driver skills is just as important, and also making our car lighter weight.

Speaking of driving skills - I highly recommend young drivers take Defensive driving schools, Car Control Clinic, then high performance driving school.
It is usually offered by your local BMW CCA chapter. Join BMW CCA and check your local chapters bulletin board for school dates.
Or you can take the M driving school.

As you know, our public driving schools is a joke. (Parallel parking, turn signals, etc.)

2) Respect the power of the machine.

The V10 is a very powerful engine and if you dont respect it - you will get hurt.
See thread below. These folks are former members here.
Their posts were mostly "how can I make my car go faster".

Sadly, they took some serious risks, didnt respect the power of the beast and they paid dearly.
No one survived.

https://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/e60...-5-killed.html

3) Get to know your car really well. Learn its limits and breaking point.
Know when you break traction, learn its limitations.

4) DO NOT turn off DSC unless you really know your car and have spent enough time with her.

I highly encourage you folks to find a deserted street or empty parking lot on weekends.
Turn off DSC, push your car hard and learn the limits of your beast.
This is the preferred location, not on public roads.

5) Always adjust your driving habits dependent on road and weather conditions.
Slow down if the roads are wet or icy.

6) NEVER weave in and out of traffic.

7) Never tail gate. NO ONE likes being tail gated.
Allow enough distance for you to brake properly and not irritate drivers in front of you.

8) Keep right unless you are passing.

9) Drive fast only when it is safe to do so.

10) Never let the car warm up by sitting idle. As the owners manual have stated - drive immediately at moderate speed.
This allows not only the engine but also the rest of the car, transmission, tires, bearings, steering wheel, etc all warm up.

11) Best tire adhesion starts around 106F. Anything less than that - your tires will be slipping & sliding.
Allow the tires to warm up in order to avoid DSC intervention.

That's good for now. You all take care.

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Is there something wrong with your keyboard?
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Clyde is spot on:

You of the "texting" generation (you know who you are), please be aware that this website is NOT Twitter. We post, we don't tweet, into these forums.

Please use capitalization, proper punctuation and the best grammar you can muster. If people have a hard time reading your posts, they tend to discount the content. So if you want to be taken seriously, put some effort into your posts (neatness does count).

And (this is important), proof read your posts! I always seem to make some typos or word things badly, so the edit option (only available for 24 hours after posting) is my very good friend.

Can't spell? Well, neither can I. Use Google or whatever resources you have. It was 10 times harder when I was young and you only had a hard copy dictionary (which I hated to use). Now it's pretty easy to check the spelling of a word.

We do want to hear from everyone, but I will admit that I tend to skip over posts that are hard to read.

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