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post #1 of 6 Old 5th June 2019, 07:13 AM Thread Starter
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How is the e60 M5 holding up after addressing the common issues?

I have researched the e60 M5 and I think I have a handle on most of the common issues. I am curious how these cars are holding up after everything is addressed? Are these common items failing again, are new things developing or is the beast becoming a reliable smile machine?

I have an opportunity to pick up a 2006 e60 M5 for a reasonable price after the rod bearings went out and the engine was repaired from the damage. The repairs included VANOS unit replacement, crank, bearings and con rods. The clutch and flywheel were also serviced just before the bearings went out. The cars sits around 100k and most of the other common items have been addressed according to receipts.

After reading plenty of horror stories on here I haven't seen many successful stories about folks who addressed all the common issues and how the car is holding up now. Most stories end with folks addressing all the common items, complaining about how much they spent and them selling the car. I want to hear some success stories on high mileage cars that have been taken care of.

So how is the beast holding up after taking care of the rod bearings, throttle actuators, clutch(s), slave cylinder, steering angle position sensors, VANOS units, addressing oil and coolant leaks and dealing with the SMG pump, motor and relay?

Thanks for the feedback!
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post #2 of 6 Old 5th June 2019, 07:24 AM
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i am a happy e60 m5 owner. im totally ignoring the "bad" experiences on the forums just because people do not understand that a super car needs to be mantained like a supercar. If you address the common issues, check the vanos pressure every 6 month or so and do some oil analysis you wont have major problems. Of course, things break but this applies to everything. My advise to you... dont really think too much about those who talk negative about the e60 m5 because it will stop you from enjoing it. This car is a technological marvel a celabration of the automotive industry.. just drive and be happy..
Remember, out of all owners of e60 e61 m5, you can only find 50 or so with horror stories on this forum.

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I'm on original throttle actuators, just replaced my clutch/transmission and VANOS items at 157,000 miles. My opinion: the VANOS issues are precipitated from neglected rod bearings. Most keyboard commentators and youtube experts have no clue on actual ownership experience. I'm going on 8 years of ownership.

What is true: These cars are not cheap to maintain. Sh1tty previous owners that deferred maintenance, over aesthetic mods, make the used market a minefield. Scared owners make poor owners, in more ways than one. These cars need to be driven to stay healthy. "Super-car" ownership can be costly.

From my previous post the other day:

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160,000+ miles of smiles! The only thing unreliable about these cars are sh1tty previous owners.

Too many Ballers on beer and pretzel budgets with champagne and caviar dreams!!

Good to see these cars slowly working themselves into the hands of enthusiasts!





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My experience over the past 7 to 8 years has been positive.

My clutch replacement:
https://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/e6...-steel-fw.html

My rod bearing replacement and history:
https://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/e6...d-driving.html

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I agree with the previous comments. My experience is fairly short though, and I'm on the cusp of having to deal with some of the major hurdles. In my mind, for a fun car, it'll be worth the future challenges. While I observe and contemplate the maintenance, I respect the machine and observe all best practices as best I can.

I drive often enough to keep a charge on the battery and distribute lubricating juices throughout the system. I observe proper warm up before beating on it. I maintain awareness of start/stop driving with respect to a manual transmission and adjust my behavior accordingly. I have the SMG, but it's very much a manual with a Robot at the reigns ^_^. Sometimes you have to think for it. I don't let it idle if I'm not driving somewhere... (Even to the point that I prefer to order at the counter as opposed to wait in a drive thru). Maybe paranoia, but as previous posts have said, this is a special machine and best not to treat it like a Camry.

I'm aware of the upcoming doom, and I'm firmly in the "beer budget" crowd. BUT folks like Fiftytwoeighty have been an inspiration and I'm grateful for the insight recorded on this forum. If you play your cards right, you actually DO end up with something amazing on the beer budget at this stage of the game.

Where else can you get a rig that'll make a late Corvette blush, with the family onboard, for a fraction of the price ($10K maintenance included!)?

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Thanks for the updates! Glad to hear your beast are going strong! Rod bearings seem like a normal maintenance item and for a V10 supercar and it's not unrealistic. Sounds like the other major items are holding up after the initial replacement. Love thy beast and it will love you back!

Will keep the board updated on where I end up, but an M5 is in my future for sure!

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Not bad, but I 've gotten all the common issues

Replaced Rod Bearings at around 60K they needed to be replaced, some were showing copper
Throttle actuators went shortly after, replaced
Oil cooler started leaking, replaced
Some pulley was making noises, replaced all of them
One vanos solenoid failed test, replaced
One ionic control unit failed, replaced

SMG clutch kit was put in to alleviate slipping at around 32K, it's happening again at 70K.
My mechanic thinks one of the head gaskets maybe leaking slightly, it may have been me being sloppy when I was topping off the oil one night when it was dark. We'll see next time I go in.
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