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post #1 of 11 Old 2nd May 2019, 10:25 PM Thread Starter
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I'm a long time BMW owner - having owned a couple E28s, an E30 and still have an E32-740 and another E28-533. Long time member of other forums, with Bimmerforums being my second home, with same user name. I currently daily a 08 Porsche Cayenne GTS that I am thinking about selling. It has 173k on it, and I am worried about the prospect of piston slap, which is an issue. I recently had symptoms of it, and low compression in one hole, which may or may not turn into something worse.


I have been looking into E60 M5s. I have read all I have been able to on the bearings and the VANOS, and other problems. I would say I am a very experienced DIYer, so these repairs don't intimidate me, other than just adding another project to the lengthy list.


Other than doing a bunch of online searches, I am not sure of the nuances of pricing for these. For instance, here is one listed at $28,000 with the bearings already done.
https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...ckType=listing
(I have to admit, I love the color combination)


Is that one worth $10k more than this one (which looks to be a board member)
https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...ckType=listing


Or one in the middle
https://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/c...874100657.html


Thank you for all of your input
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My personal preference is for an SMG car so... With that said, I'd go with the 09 just because it has the newer cic controller. Means you have the right factory trim for when you update to a full cic. The 06 I'd pass just cause it's pre-LCI. And assuming you enjoy DIYing (as I do) then bearings, TA, IA, vanos, etc. is just part of enjoying this car.
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My opinion...Id buy the one with a known history and current on maintenance.

Buy the owner first, then buy the car. With that said, the choice should be clear.

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1988 e28 m5 STROKER 420bhp 91 octane(Paul Burke s38b39); VAC LTW flywheel; MegaSquirt G2 DME; Nuke Performance fuel rail and pressure regulator, Carbon Fiber CSL intake; Lifeline Zero 360 FIA 3.0kg Novec fire suppression; Cool Shirt Pro Air/Water system; Euro RestoMod track car: caged, 6 point Schroth FIA harness, FIA Sparco Ergo & Sabelt GT-160 seats...AC/heater, interior, sunroof, rear seat delete; Euro Headers, dump valve, and race cats; CAE Ultra shifter; custom Ground Control Coilovers/camber plates; Mason Engineering front/rear strut bars; Brembo 6/4 BBK; 17x9 BBS Style 42 w/Michelin Cup 2; undergoing Euro restoration, building the e28 CSL ///Motorsport never built. 5.71lbs/hp

Not-spec e30 racercar!!! Fully caged for wheel 2 wheel racing

1996 FZJ 80; LOCKED; Factory TRD Supercharger; Expo/Overland/Backcountry Rig; custom sleeper/drawer system, full rock armor, 33"s on 2.5" OME Heavy Lift; Rigid LEDs F/R; 231,000 miles and counting.
2008 Audi A3 S-Line Quattro w/flappy paddles (Mammoth Mountain Commuter)
2000 e39 m5 TiAg (Gone, but not forgotten) sold 7/2014.

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I'd go with the first one......besides mine (and now the one you just posted), I've only seen one other 6sp manual M5 with red interior. Plus you have the peace of mind knowing that it's up to date on maintenance.

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My opinion...Id buy the one with a known history and current on maintenance.

Buy the owner first, then buy the car. With that said, the choice should be clear.

Color me daft, but, are you suggesting the first one with the bearings and other maintenance done, or the car being sold by the forum member with its list of maintenance.
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Color me daft, but, are you suggesting the first one with the bearings and other maintenance done, or the car being sold by the forum member with its list of maintenance.
I think @CHARIOT car below is the deal, with a documented history on the board.

https://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/ca...ire-black.html

The other, more expensive one, also looks like it has full history as well.

I would interview both of them as part of your due diligence and get a PPI.

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1988 e28 m5 STROKER 420bhp 91 octane(Paul Burke s38b39); VAC LTW flywheel; MegaSquirt G2 DME; Nuke Performance fuel rail and pressure regulator, Carbon Fiber CSL intake; Lifeline Zero 360 FIA 3.0kg Novec fire suppression; Cool Shirt Pro Air/Water system; Euro RestoMod track car: caged, 6 point Schroth FIA harness, FIA Sparco Ergo & Sabelt GT-160 seats...AC/heater, interior, sunroof, rear seat delete; Euro Headers, dump valve, and race cats; CAE Ultra shifter; custom Ground Control Coilovers/camber plates; Mason Engineering front/rear strut bars; Brembo 6/4 BBK; 17x9 BBS Style 42 w/Michelin Cup 2; undergoing Euro restoration, building the e28 CSL ///Motorsport never built. 5.71lbs/hp

Not-spec e30 racercar!!! Fully caged for wheel 2 wheel racing

1996 FZJ 80; LOCKED; Factory TRD Supercharger; Expo/Overland/Backcountry Rig; custom sleeper/drawer system, full rock armor, 33"s on 2.5" OME Heavy Lift; Rigid LEDs F/R; 231,000 miles and counting.
2008 Audi A3 S-Line Quattro w/flappy paddles (Mammoth Mountain Commuter)
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einhornindustires because WolfPack!

~I FRACKING!
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Money not being an issue, I would negotiate the price down on the first car. It's an '08 with all of the hard stuff done. Color combo is killer...

Go here to run the VIN and see how each car is optioned: https://decoder.bvzine.com/
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What premium for a car with bearings already done? Is that considered a maintenance item, so ads no value, or because it is a one time thing, it adds value if done. Does the color combo of grey/red add value in general?

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Id say recent bearings are a plus. They are a recurring maintenance item, not a one time thing - they need to be done every 60K - 75K miles at a cost of, what, maybe $2K - $4K? Id multiply the value of that service by a fraction of the mileage since service over the service period, and then subtract a little more because reasons. I probably wouldnt buy a car with a red interior, but thats just personal preference. The manual transmission is much rarer and generally considered more desirable by people who fear technology (and getting stranded or stuck in limp mode). YMMV.
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I wanted a low mileage 6MT so I was willing to pay more get one, knowing that once I put some real mileage on it then it wont be worth nearly what I paid. I also purchased a car from a forum member and it had all the history, both of which were important factors as well.

BTW, mine is the same color combo as the first car, its one of the things that sold me on the car.










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