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post #1 of 24 Old 27th March 2019, 03:06 AM Thread Starter
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My M5

Hope this is in the right spot! Figured I would make one of these, as I enjoy my other build thread on m3f.
So I just recently purchased my first m5. I looked into e39, but I thought it fell short in what I was looking for in the next car I was after. the e39 felt slightly underpowered, was older, more miles per $ spent and with less performance. the e60 is fresher, its more powerful its sexier. the e39 while a timeless classic just didn't have as much wow factor for me. e39 is gorgeous though.
I am blessed I got to add this example to my stable. onto the Car

-08 -black sapphire -black/wood trim -extendo leather door cards
-6 Speed

Plans for the car are. SLICK TOP BABY. rod bearings, supersprint headers/cats, some form of Monoballs bushings/ suspension tuning. some exhaust, cams, pulley, dyno tune, carbon airbox, interior trim. I honestly hate the leather used in this car I think its pretty disappointing. the dash looks nice though. yea that's it I think. I love the stock look on this car. From the wheels to the bumpers, trunk, hood, everything. My e46 is for all of that haha. well yea I will be updating hopefully soon-ish with some stuff.

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Welcome to the 6MT club. I'd also add a short shifter and 3.91 to your list.

Keep us posted on your slick top. I hate my moonroof!

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Welcome to the 6MT club. I'd also add a short shifter and 3.91 to your list.

Keep us posted on your slick top. I hate my moonroof!
Yea thats the one thing I am on the fence about. Im hoping that the added 100bhp or so from my mods will make up for the longer gearing. I do like long gears in high revving cars. makes for a very suspenseful/scary ride when you really wind them out.

How do you like the 3.91? I heard its essentially the same as stock smg gearing. what's your 6th gear cruising rpm like? I still want this car to be long distance / road trip friendly.
If anyone knows any good valvetronic exhausts lmk!
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Yea thats the one thing I am on the fence about. Im hoping that the added 100bhp or so from my mods will make up for the longer gearing. I do like long gears in high revving cars. makes for a very suspenseful/scary ride when you really wind them out.

How do you like the 3.91? I heard its essentially the same as stock smg gearing. what's your 6th gear cruising rpm like? I still want this car to be long distance / road trip friendly.
If anyone knows any good valvetronic exhausts lmk!
The 3.91 is fine for long distance cruising. I used my 3.91 to commute from SoCal to NorCal for years.

I was ahead in my 3.91 over stock SMG gearing. 6th gear at 4000 will put you at about 80ish, from memory.
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1988 e28 m5 STROKER 420bhp 91 octane(Paul Burke s38b39); VAC LTW flywheel; MegaSquirt G2 DME; Euro RestoMod track car: caged, 6 point FIA harness, FIA Sabelt GT-160 seats...AC/heater, interior, sunroof, rear seat delete; Euro Headers, dump valve, and race cats; CAE Ultra shifter; custom Ground Control Coilovers/camber plates; Mason Engineering front/rear strut bars; Brembo 6/4 BBK; 17x8 BBS RK w/Dunlop StarSpec II; undergoing Euro restoration, building the e28 CSL ///Motorsport never built. 5.71lbs/hp

1996 FZJ 80; LOCKED; Factory TRD Supercharger; Expo/Overland/Backcountry Rig; custom sleeper/drawer system, full rock armor, 33"s on 2.5" OME Heavy Lift; Rigid LEDs F/R; 231,000 miles and counting.
2008 Audi A3 S-Line Quattro w/flappy paddles (Mammoth Mountain Commuter)
2000 e39 m5 TiAg (Gone, but not forgotten) sold 7/2014.

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einhornindustires because WolfPack!

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No plans for the shift knob? Come on Jared.

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No plans for the shift knob? Come on Jared.
im trying to start a new life dude don't drag my past into this
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im trying to start a new life dude don't drag my past into this
You did it to yourself. Oh, and you can't escape the past. Maybe this is a good lesson not to jack around.
All BMW forums are one big community. Just remember this.
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I just wanted to share some thoughts as ive driven the car a little more. The car is capable of of great speed. The manner in which it gets there is lacking to me a little. I think there are a few reasons for this which i will highlight. The first thing is the weight of the car.
4,000lbs is not conducive to exhilarating performance.
Next, the 6speed that is mated to the car.
The s85 makes its power up top, now pair a top end screamer with long gears and you have yourself a boring missle. Give her some space and a few seconds and youll be casually doing 140 with out even thinking about it. But getting to the 140 is a little lackluster. By the time you get the car into the powerband youre taking it right back down with the gears that are just too long. Leaving yourself in the next gear waiting to get that rush again. While thats great and all, it leads you into a 140 mile per hour pull and well you just cant be doing that everytime you want to show your friends/family what your m5 is about. This leads to me the e39. A torquey grunter. Loads of bottom end tq. This makes for fun pulls without having to get yourself into license suspending speeds to put a smile on your face. The e39 has nearly the same tq and weight as the e60 yet feels way more alive. Now my goals for this car were for it to be an elegant and luxurious straight line machine. Nick told me i should just buy a newer m5/6 with the s63. While easy to make power straight out of the box and achieve my goals, i think the s85 chassis car is a diamond in the rough.
The slick top and exhaust should shed atleast 150-175 lb. I may and try to remove some sound deadening and see where that takes me. I dont want to lose too much refinement though. Pair that with full bolt ons which would hopefully bring me to a healthy 600bhp. The only thing that i am unsure of is the gearing. Im not sure how i will address this yet. Im hoping that the bolt ons (higher redline) and weight loss will fix this. It will with out a doubt help it but im not sure if it would satisfy me and my goals. I think gearing will be my last resort and perfecting the car.

Im looking into maybe a e9x m3 6speed swap. I could change the final drive but idk. Im not sold on shorter diffs yet.
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