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post #21 of 41 Old 25th March 2019, 10:17 AM
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Yeh and basic car parts are overpriced also


Its not like everyone but m division plays fair
So the prices are high
Just like everyone else
This car is more bespoke than a camry

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My only stipulation is this. M6 and M5 chassis suck. Only thing that makes this car great is s85. If you want to do a swap, there are way better chassis to do an engine swap into. I'm not even sure you could move your chair or roll down window if you disconnect engine input from the dme. Never mind climate control. Are you going to run 2 DME? One for engine, one for chassis? Do they need to talk to each other? I think it's way too much work.

I find e60 m5 chassis too heavy and too complicated. Gun to my head, if I ever do it, I probably would take it down to a shell, trace out all the light wires, and do all the wiring from scratch. But in the end, this is a heavy chassis, and if you're doing all that work, I could think of other chassis that will be lighter, handle better, and also look just as poised driving down a highway.

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There's a lot of dreaming going on in this thread..... engine swaps are not easy or cheap even with "simple" vehicles.


To ground some of you, "common" swaps like an LS into a 07-11 jeep wrangler or a flyin miata swap will hit you for well over 20k.


That's with all of your custom parts prefabbed ready to bolt in and with a motor that doesn't need a 1/10th of the harness/ sensors that the s85/65 need. Compared to what's being advocated, it would be cheaper just to buy two super clean M5s that work not to mention pay BMW service center prices to fix your car.


I'm all for doing cool/dumb things to your car just because but this is a weapons grade more money than sense endeavor.


If the OP is fine with cutting the deep 5 figure check to get this done is he looking to adopt a grown man? I can sure think up some other unique ways to spend his money.


Perhaps I fell hard for the bait.

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BAIT???? I'll have you know the OP is onto something here. I thought long and hard about this post and clearly you BIMMER FAN BOIS aren't thinking clearly throwing your popped collar dollars to Angela Merkle . I'm going with the Suzuki G10 I3 Engine, sure it's has a 10th of the POWA of your 500 hp glass engine but I'll race any of you any time. You might take me off the line but I'll honk and wave as you sit at the gas station and then wave again while you sit on the side of the road with your rods hanging out of your block and your vanos hp pump's bearing race rolling past your once $100k paper weight.

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BAIT???? I'll have you know the OP is onto something here. I thought long and hard about this post and clearly you BIMMER FAN BOIS aren't thinking clearly throwing your popped collar dollars to Angela Merkle . I'm going with the Suzuki G10 I3 Engine, sure it's has a 10th of the POWA of your 500 hp glass engine but I'll race any of you any time. You might take me off the line but I'll honk and wave as you sit at the gas station and then wave again while you sit on the side of the road with your rods hanging out of your block and your vanos hp pump's bearing race rolling past your once $100k paper weight.

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NO NOT MY GREATEST FEAR!!!!! 30 hp per ton power to weight AHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!


Seriously though, you might end up with the same mpg revving the piss out of that 1ltr to move 4k lbs.

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NO NOT MY GREATEST FEAR!!!!! 30 hp per ton power to weight AHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!


Seriously though, you might end up with the same mpg revving the piss out of that 1ltr to move 4k lbs.
Power to weight? I ripped out all that crappy german technology. DSC? Please just something to break and prevent me doing burn outs. IDrive? More like ISuck I dropped in Windows 3.1 based laptop, Leather 5000th way adjustable heated and cooled seats with active bolsters? I laugh at them, I put in a bench seat from an 90's buick, now my girl can cuddle up to me and wave at you and your broken F1 inspired transmission and V10 made of bubble gum.

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Power to weight? I ripped out all that crappy german technology. DSC? Please just something to break and prevent me doing burn outs. IDrive? More like ISuck I dropped in Windows 3.1 based laptop, Leather 5000th way adjustable heated and cooled seats with active bolsters? I laugh at them, I put in a bench seat from an 90's buick, now my girl can cuddle up to me and wave at you and your broken F1 inspired transmission and V10 made of bubble gum.


You're laughing now, but I've been secretly working on my 12 year old craftsman weedeater swap. You think you saved weight? I don't even need an oil pan any more, just through some premixed oil in the two stroke's compact gas tank. What's that you still have a starter motor? Psh what is this, amateur hour? I get a great work out doubling the pull string for my motor as a cable machine all while saving weight. You might as well be adding weight to your car compared to my 15000 rpm pinnacle of back yard engineering.

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This whole thread is some serious bait.. Well played, well played.
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Perhaps I fell hard for the bait.
While you two have brought some humor to the thread, OP did ask for discussion and flaming so I dont see how this was baiting.

What do you want, another SMG failure thread or a millionth bearing thread? That **** is boring at this point.
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While you two have brought some humor to the thread, OP did ask for discussion and flaming so I dont see how this was baiting.

What do you want, another SMG failure thread or a millionth bearing thread? That **** is boring at this point.
You're correct and my apologies to the OP the thread devolved at some point and it wasn't the OP, I attributed it to him but it wasn't looking back.

The whole idea of just swapping an a different engine in the car shows the complete low point of the market for the car. *****ing about the high cost of maintenance is just as boring as the the threads you pointed out. We've been down this road in previous threads and it's no point rehashing them.


That said I'm down with the weedwacker swap, my arms can use a work out too.

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While you two have brought some humor to the thread, OP did ask for discussion and flaming so I dont see how this was baiting.

What do you want, another SMG failure thread or a millionth bearing thread? That **** is boring at this point.

Sorry dad it won't happen again, unless it does, and then I'll probably apologize for that too....


Wasn't trying to be too big of a pain in the rear.


Sort of unrelated, I am in fact dropping the E60 off for a bearing swap in 2 hours so one more bearing thread incoming, at least pictures of showing the wear and not to beat a dead horse.

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