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post #121 of 291 Old 5th January 2016, 05:38 PM Thread Starter
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Its all very well building a great car...Well done for doing this !

But also putting the great build into a thread is not so easy.

Obviously building the car is more difficult .....but the thread is a close 2nd !

The thread is what captures the ENTHUSIASTS. I and several others are captured for sure by your thread.

We are reading !
Happy you enjoy, I always love reading through a detailed build thread with lots of info and pictures so I am glad I can reciprocate that.

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I still ask to this day why they did not bring the E61 M5 to the US. I get a bonnar for wagons.
While observing or thinking of high-performance wagons increased blood flow to the crotchal region is a common occurrence for the male car enthusiast. It is completely normal and nothing to be ashamed of.

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Happy you enjoy, I always love reading through a detailed build thread with lots of info and pictures so I am glad I can reciprocate that.


While observing or thinking of high-performance wagons increased blood flow to the crotchal region is a common occurrence for the male car enthusiast. It is completely normal and nothing to be ashamed of.

Evan
Surely the blue pill has a pretty close alternative. May cause excitement and widowing in some marriages.

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So ran into a bit of a pickle with the coding and my DSC module is not being recognized with my programs via OBDII.

I originally removed $203 from my FA in LMA and CAS but I never coded the whole car after those modules, I thought once those two were changed all other modules would automatically be coded. My research leads me to believe that when there is some conflicting Vehicle Orders (VOs) issue like this will arise.

I noticed this issue after installing my 535i DSC unit and trying to code it with NCS Expert but the module was nowhere to be found, I connected my old DXC module and still nothing appeared. Interestingly, I can not get into the DSC unit with NCSE or INPA but I was able to pull some DSC codes one (out of many) of the times I pulled codes from all modules with INPA. My software works just fine with all other modules.

To compound the issue my battery is low my charger isn't able to get the voltage where it needs to be for coding. I am getting a bunch of "COAPI-2021: Datatransmission to ECU disturbed" errors, every few seconds, it will interrupt INPA functions sporadically but when I try to "code car" with my modified VO, the errors pops up after ~10-15 seconds when I am on my 3rd or 4th module. I guess I could code them 1 at a time but I have some 45 modules to get through.

I think once I all the modules are coded with the same VO DSC might be recognizable once again? When going back to my post 14: N54Tech.com - Your Source for International Turbo BMW Racing Discussion - View Single Post - My 535xi Touring is now a 535i Touring: AWD to RWD Conversion
...you can see that my DSC wasn't listed then either, I totally overlooked it. I have pulled the VO from another 535i E60 (Thanks Ocean) to see if there was a DSC specific VO added to RWD cars as maybe mine was somehow included with the $203 (AWD) I removed.

To make things more challenging a low battery can trigger a bunch of ghost codes so I have to pay close attention to which codes are real. I am hoping that once my replacement axle arrives I will be able to get the operational and run it on the freeway to really charge the battery so I complete some uninterrupted coding.

Here is the recent batch of applicable codes:

DME
CDBE Nominal Torque Request
CDAD Request Wheel Torque, Drivetrain, BF

EGS
CF34 Message from DSC
511B Faulty Coding

VGSG
55C3 AWD Malfunction Regulation Activated
CF54 VTG MEssage, Nominal Torque, BB
54C8 VTG Classification Resistor Issue

DSC
5EC2 Steering Angle Sensor Plausibility
6DC3 DSC Sensor Adjustment Required


DXC Module removed


535i DSC pump and module separated


535i Connector



In the meantime I took a break from the computer stuff and finally cleaned up the vent hose routing on my expansion tank. I bought a vent hose for a 550i and modified it.

Before


After


I also pulled my busted axle in anticipation for the replacement.


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- Hexon RR550 Hybrid Turbos, Custom Turbo Inlets, AR DP, VRSF 7" IC, ER CP, Tial BOV, RB PCV, BMS OCC,
- BMS JB4, E85 Flash, Fuel-It Stage 2 LPFP, EOS Port Injection Manifold, Custom 3" Exhaust
- OEM M5 Front Bumper, OEM M5 Front Fenders (Vents Deleted), OEM M5 Skirts, OEM M5 Mirrors, M-Tech Rep Rear Bumper
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Hi Evan. I got your email and PM, sorry i haven't responded yet, a lot going on.

The KGM is the module that translates from D-CAN to PT-CAN for the DSC. It's possible that the new DSC resides on a different hex address and that address is set in the KGM by programming it with the new VO. Instead of programming the whole car, try just the KGM first. Ecu group KGM60 in WinKFP with UIF write enabled just to be safe.

Otherwise you can use WinKFP and manually choose the hex address of the target module. Im not sure how to do that, but perhaps @CHARIOT can chime in on that.
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Wow. A prius, and a mad boosted 5 - seems like you've nailed the best of both extremes here OP. :P Prius for 'round town, and the 5 for trips?

You mentioned earlier in the thread that you were not able to communicate with DXC before either?

IS your donor part from an LCI too? Keep in mind it's not advised to mix pre/post LCI DXC units due to the Bordnet conflict of communication standards of Kline and Dcan. (A new DXC module started after 3/07) Can you provide some details on the original and replacement DXC units?

If you can't communicate with DXC diagnostically, you need to verify your power, grounds, and CAN.

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Hi Evan. I got your email and PM, sorry i haven't responded yet, a lot going on.

The KGM is the module that translates from D-CAN to PT-CAN for the DSC. It's possible that the new DSC resides on a different hex address and that address is set in the KGM by programming it with the new VO. Instead of programming the whole car, try just the KGM first. Ecu group KGM60 in WinKFP with UIF write enabled just to be safe.

Otherwise you can use WinKFP and manually choose the hex address of the target module. Im not sure how to do that, but perhaps @CHARIOT can chime in on that.
Thanks for reaching out, I have acquired most of the parts I need for my M5 conversion, the only thing I am in need of is a lci shift boot and the foam/rubber insulation that sits around the shifter and on top of the trans. If you have that, let me know!

I was told on another forum that the used DSC I purchased, as it was previously used on another car, will need my VIN flashed to it to be recognized by my E61. If the DSC module still has a mismatched vin would coding the KGM get around that issue?

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Wow. A prius, and a mad boosted 5 - seems like you've nailed the best of both extremes here OP. :P Prius for 'round town, and the 5 for trips?

You mentioned earlier in the thread that you were not able to communicate with DXC before either?

IS your donor part from an LCI too? Keep in mind it's not advised to mix pre/post LCI DXC units due to the Bordnet conflict of communication standards of Kline and Dcan. (A new DXC module started after 3/07) Can you provide some details on the original and replacement DXC units?

If you can't communicate with DXC diagnostically, you need to verify your power, grounds, and CAN.
...sort of... The Prius is my girlfriends, I only use it when my car is under the knife, no reason NOT to drive the wagon all the time! #DailyDrivenWhenItWorks

The DSC module I purchased to replace my DXC is also from an LCI, a 2010 528i AT/RWD to be exact.

My initial coding was removing $203 "4-wheel drive" from the VO in both the LMA and CAS modules via NCSE, I never changed the VO in other modules nor did I "code car" after removing $203. I didn't notice that the DXC was MIA until I tried to flash/code my replacement module but I went back and saw a screenshot I had taken a couple days after my initial VO coding and even back then the DXC module wasn't listed, at that point I had done absolutely nothing to the DXC unit other than removing $203 from LMA and CAS. Not sure what the connection is between $203 and DSC missing.

I hope this makes sense.
Evan

Here is a screen shot of my UIF



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- AWD-RWD Conversion, OEM M5 Drivetrain Retrofit, Manual Trans Swap, Spec 3+ Clutch, MFactory SMFW
- OEM M5 Brakes, KW V3, RD Sport Sways, UR Strut Braces, Forgestar F14 SDC 19x9.5 19x11, Hankook V12
- Hexon RR550 Hybrid Turbos, Custom Turbo Inlets, AR DP, VRSF 7" IC, ER CP, Tial BOV, RB PCV, BMS OCC,
- BMS JB4, E85 Flash, Fuel-It Stage 2 LPFP, EOS Port Injection Manifold, Custom 3" Exhaust
- OEM M5 Front Bumper, OEM M5 Front Fenders (Vents Deleted), OEM M5 Skirts, OEM M5 Mirrors, M-Tech Rep Rear Bumper
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You should still be able to connect to DSC and at least read the AIF/UIF if it is on the bus. DSC/DXC have the same hex address so if you you read it with an FA containing 203 it should give you a warning and say it actually found DSC not DXC. Have you checked the big 3 at your DSC connector? You should have power on pins 1,32,45 (~13v with engine running since they're KL30) Ground on pins 16, and/or 47, and CAN voltage on 23,25,38, 40. Also make sure you're getting wake up voltage on pin 14. (Should be ~12 volts, NOT Vbatt)

Use tool32 to connect if INPA wont let you connect.

Also, all your MOST components are missing from your UIF list above; did you have them disconnected?

I attached your original Virtual build order from BMW for you (Still has $203) - change the extension to .ssd from .txt, then load it into NCS and try to read coding data from "EHB" is the ECU list. Let us know what happens!
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You should still be able to connect to DSC and at least read the AIF/UIF if it is on the bus. DSC/DXC have the same hex address so if you you read it with an FA containing 203 it should give you a warning and say it actually found DSC not DXC. Have you checked the big 3 at your DSC connector? You should have power on pins 1,32,45 (~13v with engine running since they're KL30) Ground on pins 16, and/or 47, and CAN voltage on 23,25,38, 40. Also make sure you're getting wake up voltage on pin 14. (Should be ~12 volts, NOT Vbatt)

Use tool32 to connect if INPA wont let you connect.

Also, all your MOST components are missing from your UIF list above; did you have them disconnected?

I attached your original Virtual build order from BMW for you (Still has $203) - change the extension to .ssd from .txt, then load it into NCS and try to read coding data from "EHB" is the ECU list. Let us know what happens!
Thanks for the continued information, I appreciate it.


I took a break from coding as my battery voltage was dropping below 12v even with support so I ordered a new battery and am picking it up today. I will install, code the battery, and continue poking around with the DSC coding.

In the meantime I replaced my broken rear axle. First I ordered a used axle off ebay that had VERY damaged threads and was unsalvageable, the seller gave me a full refund and I ordered another axle from a local dismantler. Unfortunately the 2nd axle also had thread damage and I was again refunded my money. Since the damaged axles had to core value to the sellers I was instructed to keep both with worked out well as I was able to have a local axle shop recut the threads on the second axle and in the end was able to repair my broken drivetrain for $25!

VGSG module was also removed.

Evan



Whoops!



California Axle Supply in Huntington Beach has a lot of axles


After threads were recut and splines cleaned


Installed, you can see the weeping grease from my old axle.


Same thing on the passenger side.


VGSG module


aaaaaaaaaaaaaand it's GONE!

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- Hexon RR550 Hybrid Turbos, Custom Turbo Inlets, AR DP, VRSF 7" IC, ER CP, Tial BOV, RB PCV, BMS OCC,
- BMS JB4, E85 Flash, Fuel-It Stage 2 LPFP, EOS Port Injection Manifold, Custom 3" Exhaust
- OEM M5 Front Bumper, OEM M5 Front Fenders (Vents Deleted), OEM M5 Skirts, OEM M5 Mirrors, M-Tech Rep Rear Bumper
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Good day for the wagon:

- Module "safety"
- 6AT Mechatronics sleeve and seal
- Trans flush and reflash
- Rear differential flush
- New front tires + Tredwear

Level for the fluid flushes


In my E61 most of the modules are stored at the bottom of the spare tire well and if the roof drains become clogged water can build up in the well and fry the modules, a pricey repair. I decided to implement some cheap insurance and drill a drain hole. 3/16" bit


There it is


From the outside


Spare tire is out and audio is in, JBL MS8 for the interior speakers (BSW) and MSA500-1 for the subs.


At some point I will get around to fabricating a dummy-floor to cover the wiring.


Going in for trans work


Everything is more difficult on x-drives, although my car operates as RWD, the transfer case is still installed and RIGHT in the way.


Mechatronics sleeve and connector, I had to pull the transmission mount and tilt the whole unit down to get access.


Bottom of the 6AT after the mechatronics was removed.


Old and New sleeve (old was in good shape)


Old and New mechatronics adapter


Cleaning oil pan/filter


Can you tell which magnet was cleaned?


Getting trans fluid to operating temp for level check


Old fluid: ATF, ATF, Rear Diff


New fluids


Old tires (V12 Evo 1)


New Rubbah!


Installing new TredWear decals. I can't stress the importance of proper prep and installation. It takes me ~3 hours to do 2 tires (4 decals). Lots of work but lots of reward IMO.


Proper glue distribution. Not too much, not too little, all the way to the edges


Before


...aaaaaaaand we're back!




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- OEM M5 Brakes, KW V3, RD Sport Sways, UR Strut Braces, Forgestar F14 SDC 19x9.5 19x11, Hankook V12
- Hexon RR550 Hybrid Turbos, Custom Turbo Inlets, AR DP, VRSF 7" IC, ER CP, Tial BOV, RB PCV, BMS OCC,
- BMS JB4, E85 Flash, Fuel-It Stage 2 LPFP, EOS Port Injection Manifold, Custom 3" Exhaust
- OEM M5 Front Bumper, OEM M5 Front Fenders (Vents Deleted), OEM M5 Skirts, OEM M5 Mirrors, M-Tech Rep Rear Bumper
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Black seatback conversion is complete




2008 N54-Powered E61 M5 Wagon: ~600whp ~600wtq
- AWD-RWD Conversion, OEM M5 Drivetrain Retrofit, Manual Trans Swap, Spec 3+ Clutch, MFactory SMFW
- OEM M5 Brakes, KW V3, RD Sport Sways, UR Strut Braces, Forgestar F14 SDC 19x9.5 19x11, Hankook V12
- Hexon RR550 Hybrid Turbos, Custom Turbo Inlets, AR DP, VRSF 7" IC, ER CP, Tial BOV, RB PCV, BMS OCC,
- BMS JB4, E85 Flash, Fuel-It Stage 2 LPFP, EOS Port Injection Manifold, Custom 3" Exhaust
- OEM M5 Front Bumper, OEM M5 Front Fenders (Vents Deleted), OEM M5 Skirts, OEM M5 Mirrors, M-Tech Rep Rear Bumper
- Quad Projector Headlights, Custom Tail Lights, Rigid SR 6" Reverse Light, Full LED Interior/Exterior Lighting
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