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post #101 of 106 Old 14th April 2014, 09:15 PM
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Finally got mine in this week. And the disappointing verdict: they DO hyper-flash. I'm not sure if Bimmian realizes that this particular product that they sell is false advertising. Not only do they blink at a rapid pace, I also receive check bulb error messages on the i-drive.
I'm not in the mood to hassle with returns again, so I'll just seek an alternative route.

Although the bulb is bright and looks nice, Spektra failed on the final delivery.

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I complained into the chat I had when they messed up the original order and I was able to get an RMA....but I have to pay 20% restocking fee. Such a joke...but at least I should get a portion back.

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Been a while since I checked out these bulbs in Bimmian. Don't recall seeing this info in the past. Performing this would most likely eliminate hyper flashing and bulb out errors. I had mine coded out a while back and can use an LED bulb that caused both issues prior to coding.


Source: WeissLicht LED Turn Signal Bulbs For E60/E61 - BMW 5 Series and M5 - 2004-2009 From bimmian.com

Installation Notes

If you own an E60 and decide to purchase Spektrum bulbs you can perform the coding of the LMA module to eliminate errors. If you are familiar with coding and own an INPA-EDIABAS cable and NCS Expert software you can perform this coding exercise or contact:
bmwcoding.com

You need to set following lines to: nicht_aktiv
KALTUEBERWACHUNG_BLK_V_R
KALTUEBERWACHUNG_BLK_V_L
WARMUEBERWACHUNG_BLK_V_R
WARMUEBERWACHUNG_BLK_V_L
FEHLERMELDUNG_CC_BLK_V_R
FEHLERMELDUNG_CC_BLK_V_L
Installation Difficulty: BASIC - Simple Tools, No Special Knowledge RequiredClick on the 'Installation Guides' tab above for installation resources


Notes / Warnings

Please note:
-In some BMWs you may experience minor flickering upon start up as the vehicles searches for bulbs. This is very minor and stops moments after the system locates the bulb.
-Some Bulbs are polarity sensitive and will need to be flipped around in the socket to work properly.
-We realize some vehicles are sensitive to any non-filament bulbs despite the internal circuitry of the Spektrum bulb, and as a result throw an error even though Spektrum bulbs are designed as error-free. (e.g. E92 rear and E60 front signals and E53 X5 front signals).
If you are buying for these locations we provide error cancellers only upon request.
These cancellers crimp to the bulb socket wires. Since these locations to do not have exposed wires coming from the socket you will need to locate them by looking at the forums for where they are located.
Yea those sneaky bastards added all that extra "fine print" in there after I and a few others brought all this to their attention.

brb Bimmian - "OMG first no-error, no modification needed bulbs!!!"

**oh wait, just kidding. You may need coding and resistors added....but yea...after that they are no error

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Guys, did anyone ever figure this out? (I know this is an old thread). I just tried doing the coding that was quoted here and the ones that start with FEHLERMELDUNG_CC actually cause the dash warnings to go away. However, the fast blinking still happens, even if I do all 6 of the codings and clear fault codes. I'm not testing with Bimmian bulbs; I'm just testing with the bulbs unplugged altogether, as an experiment. I want to turn of the bulb monitoring altogether, to avoid the fast flashing. Any ideas?
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Changing the coding on the above all worked for me. I'm running $25 LED bulbs off Amazon with no issues.

KALTUEBERWACHUNG = COLD MONITORING
WARMUEBERWACHUNG = WARM MONITORING
FEHLERMELDUNG = ERROR MESSAGE

The monitoring settings are the ones that cause the car to test the bulbs on start or during vehicle operation. Turning off only the error message will clear the message from the display, but you'll still get the hyperflash. So you definitely need to set to nicht_aktiv all 6 variables listed above.

When you did the coding, you got no errors or warnings, right?

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Also see this thread:
https://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/e60...t-ger-eng.html

And make sure that the variables you switched match exactly the names in the posts above mine. There are other settings that begin with the KALTUEBERWACHUNG, etc., names because there are control options for different bulbs on the car. From the translation guide in the thread from the link:

RFS_R, RFS_L = Reverse Light
FL_R, FL_L = beam
AL_R, AL_L = cornering
SL_V_R, SL_V_L = parking light
NSW_R, NSW_L = fog
BLK_V_R, BLK_V_L = flashing front
BLK_H_R, BLK_H_L = flashing back
BL_M_1 = 3 Brake light
KZL_R, KZL_L = plate light
NSL_R, NSL_L = rear fog lamp
TFL_R, TFL_L = Daylight
SML = Side marker lamps

The "BLK" is, I assume, shorthand for the German word for "flash": blinken.

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I've got the Bimmian/Weisslicht LEDs for my front turn signals, and after the price I paid, I was pretty disappointed in their performance. Errors, hyperflashing, flickering, and they're not as bright as they're made out to be...hardly any brighter than a standard, decent incandescent bulb. So I coded out the error and am just living with it. I had an email exchange with them that was extremely unprofessional and they don't seem to have any thoughts or concerns about the fact that the product is nothing like as advertised. Really too bad. I would have bought some cheap lamps and just coded the errors anyway. Only thing I was worried about was the potentially short life span of the "knockoff" lights.
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I had initially planned to buy the Weisslicht bulbs, since I'd thought they saved on coding. But, reading around on their site, for some reason our E60s are an exception and still require coding. I guess it has to do with how the LMA tests the bulbs. So instead I bought cheap Amazon LEDs (which have actually been great) and, from Bimmian, a coding cable. It has thus far turned out to be a good decision.

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- AFE Magnum Intake (for the noise)
- Corsa Axleback
- F10 M5 shift knob
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- Blacked out logos and vents
- Ziza interior LEDs
- M-stripe gloss black front grille
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