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post #1731 of 1905 Old 9th November 2011, 05:00 AM
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Uh, I would be kind of ticked off if war vets got treated better than me.

Just saying....

A war vet made this post possible.....

Should the law be indifferent to vet / non vet status yes....but I have no problem if it helps. Vet's have given so much more to this great nation then they will ever be repaid for...consider this an opertunity to chock one up for the vet.
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Why would you get ticked off if they got treated better???
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A war vet made this post possible.....

Should the law be indifferent to vet / non vet status yes....but I have no problem if it helps. Vet's have given so much more to this great nation then they will ever be repaid for...consider this an opertunity to chock one up for the vet.


It is placing a value on each individual that is based on the blind assumption that THEY have made some contribution or sacrific greater than mine. Many have. Many have not. How about police? Not all police, just those on inner city duty... not just inner city, but street patrol...or firemen? Wait, how about physicians that work over-seas in dangerous areas? Is there a 'risk of death' metric that we need to apply to determine who gets the 'treatment'? When does it end?


Tommy doesn't need his vet status to be treated right... if this thread needs to serve as a chit to even the score between 'vets' and 'the man', fine- but not in my book. I don't care if he is a vet, a teacher, or a software programmer or owns a Burger King franchise.

However I do admire the obvious fact that he is not loaded and this is a non-trival undertaking for him- THAT I can respect and appreciate.

My comment will detract from this thread...shall we move on?

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Doesn't mean I don't wish justice was blind in our legal system.
Ever watch Arrested Development? Justice is blind

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This is an interesting side line conversation. If you were of age during the Vietnam conflict you would have never been able to benefit from the veteran status, in the late 70's and 80's the services were at an all time low with terrible funding, now to be a vet has its benefits and the status is one that is embraced by society, it is not wrong for this to happen, but the feelings of our country at times can be a bit capricious.
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I can't speak for Tommy personally but it is a vet's purpose to ensure that no one is more special. "I will defend with my life your right to say what you believe."

All that matters here is that he is in the right here.

May the judge and jury see that.

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FOR THOSE WHO FOUGHT FOR IT, FREEDOM HAS A FLAVOR THE PROTECTED WILL NEVER KNOW...Just saying...

Tommy, I wish you especially good luck in 2 days which is Veterans Day. It would be a fitting reward as the only reason I also have my car is because of the times I deployed to serve. The extra $ I'm able to save during this year of deployment will buy my ECU reflash otherwise I couldn't afford/justify a $1200 expenditure like that.

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Let's keep this discussion focussed.
If you want to continue the war vet discussion then please start a new thread in Off-Topic.
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It is placing a value on each individual that is based on the blind assumption that THEY have made some contribution or sacrific greater than mine. Many have. Many have not. How about police? Not all police, just those on inner city duty... not just inner city, but street patrol...or firemen? Wait, how about physicians that work over-seas in dangerous areas? Is there a 'risk of death' metric that we need to apply to determine who gets the 'treatment'? When does it end?


Tommy doesn't need his vet status to be treated right... if this thread needs to serve as a chit to even the score between 'vets' and 'the man', fine- but not in my book. I don't care if he is a vet, a teacher, or a software programmer or owns a Burger King franchise.

However I do admire the obvious fact that he is not loaded and this is a non-trival undertaking for him- THAT I can respect and appreciate.

My comment will detract from this thread...shall we move on?

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PS Tommy- lots of folks pulling for you here....
I'm a vet but I don't expect treated any better than anyone else, but the risk your stating doesn't hold water. Some police have never drawn their guns and a fireman may go for months without going to a fire. In war zone being shot at is the norm and what uncle sam gives you for that is not much. If Tommy's lawyer can score some points with that fact more power to her. She is just saying he went above the normal risk to get his car.
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It is placing a value on each individual that is based on the blind assumption that THEY have made some contribution or sacrific greater than mine. Many have. Many have not. How about police? Not all police, just those on inner city duty... not just inner city, but street patrol...or firemen? Wait, how about physicians that work over-seas in dangerous areas? Is there a 'risk of death' metric that we need to apply to determine who gets the 'treatment'? When does it end?


Tommy doesn't need his vet status to be treated right... if this thread needs to serve as a chit to even the score between 'vets' and 'the man', fine- but not in my book. I don't care if he is a vet, a teacher, or a software programmer or owns a Burger King franchise.

However I do admire the obvious fact that he is not loaded and this is a non-trival undertaking for him- THAT I can respect and appreciate.

My comment will detract from this thread...shall we move on?

A

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I'm a vet but I don't expect treated any better than anyone else, but the risk your stating doesn't hold water. Some police have never drawn their guns and a fireman may go for months without going to a fire. In war zone being shot at is the norm and what uncle sam gives you for that is not much. If Tommy's lawyer can score some points with that fact more power to her. She is just saying he went above the normal risk to get his car.
I completely understand the equality argument and of the veterans I know, none of them expect to be treated above the average civilian. That being said, it isn't uncommon that they are given breaks or offered things that the average person wouldn't receive -- and there's nothing wrong with them accepting it.

The frustrating part of it all is that those who haven't served and actually experienced the risk and sacrifice firsthand have no concept of what it entails. The policeman and fireman comparisons make that quite obvious...

That being said, I would have expected a moderator to execute better judgment than to push an obvious "hot button" and make a comment that is not only off-topic but nearly promises to derail a thread and cause an uproar of emotion. SMH...

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