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post #1341 of 1905 Old 7th November 2010, 07:27 PM
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"I'm told that the dealership has finally pulled their offer and told him to kiss their arse. I applaud them for that. They went far beyond what 99% of any other dealership would have done to make things right."
Really? Do you applaud the dealer for wrecking his automobile? What about for rodding customers cars in a residential neighborhood? Has anyone told you recently you are an arse? I would applaud that.

Your vague worthless essay is an insult to Tommy as well as the members of this boards intelligence. To quote popular cinema, "what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it, may God have mercy on your soul."
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post #1342 of 1905 Old 7th November 2010, 07:59 PM
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Seems like the dealer is doing everything in their power to hide reviews and to push any discussions about this off the first page of Google results. They must have engaged an SEO firm to help them. This thread is slowly moving down the results page. My bet is it is on page 2 before the end of November.
When I search this board is the 4th link, with the top 3 being Autobahn's own pages. Can't get much higher than that. And with the new post from anonymous dude claiming Autobahn is in the right I bet this thread blows up. No page 2 anytime soon. Keep the faith Tommy...
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Jmordecai,

your right, a car is a car, and can be replaced....that said Abahn should have replaced Tommys car or compensated him fairly with the funds for the value of the car, and any diminished value. So for example, if Tommy paid 70K for the car, and the insurance would only offer 50K b/c of diminished value over time, then Tommy is out 20K out of his investment. Does that sound fair to you?

You talked about "mis-communication" about what really happened. So Abahn mis-communicated to Tommy that their tech wrecked his car? Thats a pretty big mis-communication. Especially, if you read earlier in the thread that the car "lost control" over a "patch of sand" on the road...nevermind the tech was driving aggressively. And nevermind the fact the neighborhood has seen previous techs joyride other peoples cars in the same area. That means Abahn doesn't control it's employees/techs and turns a blind eye to it. Bad management if you ask me.

Understand you have your point of view, but we would like to hear hard facts from what you know vice broad generalizations against Tommy.

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When I search this board is the 4th link, with the top 3 being Autobahn's own pages. Can't get much higher than that. And with the new post from anonymous dude claiming Autobahn is in the right I bet this thread blows up. No page 2 anytime soon. Keep the faith Tommy...
A couple weeks ago it was #1. Now Autobahn pages are above it. That's what professional SEO firms do. If it's not on page 1 it doesn't exist.

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jmordecai - thank you for taking the time to post. It is refreshing to finally have someone eloquent and well-spoken representing the other side of the issue. Instead of a long post with vague statements it would be very interesting to have more solid facts - such as concrete information about the generous offers you mention.
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Here's the deal. First, yes, a wrench at Autobahn did in fact wreck his M5. Yes, it's unfortunate and yes, the wrench was guilty as the day is long for being irresponsible. But he also immediately owned up to it. As did Autobahn to Tommy. Yes, there were some miscommunications in the beginning, but that was not due to any deliberate attempt by the dealership to hide anything, it was due to nothing more than poor and/or faulty, albeit innocent, misinformation between human actors. Mistakes were made, but such is life. You move on.
Interesting post.

First, you assert that Autobahn has 'bent over backwards' on this issue, but provide not one single scrap of data to support this assertion. Surely this must be 'spin' from your friends and colleagues at the dealership.... we know this has been a continuous stream from Autobahn to BMWNA and the other dealerships in the area.

Indeed the strategy has been to try and paint autobahn as the victim of 'the internet gone bad'. You are playing a part in that. This must be your intent in posting.

So back to your post- you assert the dealer 'bent over backwards' in offering multiple settlements? Really? Only secondhand hearsay, right? Any specifics? Indeed, autobahn immediately turned this over to insurnace and didn't offer a damn thing once Tommy refused to leave his car with these clowns....

Indeed, once the lawsuit was filed, even then autobahn's settlement they posted was clearly lacking give the situation. Are you saying there were earlier offers which were in fact better offers? Or are you just saying "I heard from people I trust that they made good offers, so I am willing to believe it is Tommys fault"?


I agree with the first part of your post that I quoted above- the driver made a mistake. The DEALERSHIP however has to answer to the charge that they were willfully negligent in how they managed their employees and allowed them to drive cars. As a lawyer you must know that there are often many levels at which you must evaluate 'blame'. Once Autbahn acknowledges this then we can all move on.

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I dont agree. I beleive Autobahn will always be number one since they are Autobahn BMW I beleive any place on the first page is an impressive rank for an incident like this. Any bogus sites / reviews from Autobahn will just paint Autbahn in a bad light is my thought.


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A couple weeks ago it was #1. Now Autobahn pages are above it. That's what professional SEO firms do. If it's not on page 1 it doesn't exist.


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Agreed, well written but need more fscts to be trustworthy. it was too much fluff and personal opinions.

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jmordecai - thank you for taking the time to post. It is refreshing to finally have someone eloquent and well-spoken representing the other side of the issue. Instead of a long post with vague statements it would be very interesting to have more solid facts - such as concrete information about the generous offers you mention.


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My car is just not a car, its the car I worked hard for in the oilfeild to buy when I was 20, flew down to florida and drove back, you cannot replace my car with anthoner, I bet you money this tommy guy feels the same about his car

I would say that autobaun should had bought this tommy's guys car at pre wreck blue book and then sold him a car at retail is a resonable offer that autobaun should hav taken as the op offered it

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