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post #11 of 25 Old 2nd May 2019, 06:04 AM
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Sorry about the sloppy wording. I have edited the original post to reflect that I want to sell this car "as is" and not parting it out a la Clemster...
Adam doesn't part out every single car he gets, he's sold a handful of M5's. He took a blown up Dinan S3 car, put it back to factory fresh and sold it. I went down and looked at the car in person.

Said car recently sold on BaT

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2003-bmw-m5-37/

If this car is good condition wise you'd be better off selling it to him, letting him fix it and give it a new lease on life with someone else. Selling it dirt cheap on craigslist is going to turn it into an inner city ghetto cruiser in no time flat.

You could always try and list it on BaT yourself, let it go to the highest bidder. Would probably set the record for cheapest M5 on BaT.

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Why do you think it wouldn't pass?
SAS problems. Well known to members of this board. When my M5 hit this issue I had it just turned off in the firmware. Where I live (North Carolina) they don't do tailpipe emissions tests. The annual inspection just checks to see if the car has thrown an emissions-related code. There's a handful of places such as California that require actual tailpipe emissions testing and my M5 would fail for the first thirty seconds of emissions after a cold start. Otherwise, it's fine.

I could be wrong but I'm not going to drive to Orange County (relatives there) to find out...let alone with no AC...
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Adam doesn't part out every single car he gets, he's sold a handful of M5's. He took a blown up Dinan S3 car, put it back to factory fresh and sold it. I went down and looked at the car in person.

Said car recently sold on BaT

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2003-bmw-m5-37/

If this car is good condition wise you'd be better off selling it to him, letting him fix it and give it a new lease on life with someone else. Selling it dirt cheap on craigslist is going to turn it into an inner city ghetto cruiser in no time flat.

You could always try and list it on BaT yourself, let it go to the highest bidder. Would probably set the record for cheapest M5 on BaT.
Good suggestions! That's really what I'm aiming for. I think the car is fixable but I don't have the time or patience. BAT is really my target market since I have a number of (heavy) parts that must go with the car so any buyer would have to have a trailer or a pickup.

I'd sooner cube it than list on Craigslist. I sold an F150 on CL and it was an experience to say the least. I did end up selling it but only after a dozen or so scamsters. To be fair, the Craiglist experience varies widely by geography. My son has lived in the DC area and now in Southern California. He used CL extensively in both places and it was a relatively painless process. There just isn't enough volume here in central NC to bump the S/N ratio.

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SAS problems. Well known to members of this board. When my M5 hit this issue I had it just turned off in the firmware. Where I live (North Carolina) they don't do tailpipe emissions tests. The annual inspection just checks to see if the car has thrown an emissions-related code. There's a handful of places such as California that require actual tailpipe emissions testing and my M5 would fail for the first thirty seconds of emissions after a cold start. Otherwise, it's fine.



I could be wrong but I'm not going to drive to Orange County (relatives there) to find out...let alone with no AC...

CA hasn't done the tailpipe test for a few years now for MY 2000 and later cars, just OBD-II readiness and a visual inspection.

No A/C in OC I fully understand though...
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California doesn't require a sniffer on anything 2000 and after.

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BAT is really my target market since I have a number of (heavy) parts that must go with the car so any buyer would have to have a trailer or a pickup.
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You could always try and list it on BaT yourself, let it go to the highest bidder. Would probably set the record for cheapest M5 on BaT.

Based on what I've seen recently in terms of cars that BaT has rejected, I'm not sure they'd take you up on this. Not saying you shouldn't try, but I wouldn't guarantee them accepting it. Actually, they probably would without a reserve.


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CA hasn't done the tailpipe test for a few years now for MY 2000 and later cars, just OBD-II readiness and a visual inspection.

No A/C in OC I fully understand though...
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Thanks to both of you for the update. Is 2000 a rolling year? My son moved to SoCal several years ago with his (2000) M5 and once the SAS problem showed up he couldn't get it past inspection. I'll ask him this weekend at a family gathering.

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Quick update with two new items:

After my sanity has returned I thought I'd give my trusty independent repair shop (Import Motor Werks in Cary, NC) a call. They said they could do the evap core for quite a bit less than the dealer quote...like $2,000 less. That's a high-side estimate since it depends on how much the parts cost. Naturally labor is still the larger part of this repair but IMW's labor rates aren't bad.

I'm retired now and a trip to Cary is an hour and a half of pleasant driving on NC 64. So sometime next week I'm going to pop over and have them give it a look.

I was under the hood of the M5 tonight to check the oil (it's used about 1.25L in a little over 5,500 miles) and found out that the dealer flat out lost one of the AC parts (the cap for the AC service port). It's a ten buck part but still.

Worse, they broke both of the cabin air filter connections...p/n 64318379620 for the right one. The left one is a slightly different p/n but same price. So over $200 in parts thanks to some clumsy oaf.
I'm going to have a nice chat with the service manager tomorrow.

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Quick update with two new items:

After my sanity has returned I thought I'd give my trusty independent repair shop (Import Motor Werks in Cary, NC) a call. They said they could do the evap core for quite a bit less than the dealer quote...like $2,000 less. That's a high-side estimate since it depends on how much the parts cost. Naturally labor is still the larger part of this repair but IMW's labor rates aren't bad.

I'm retired now and a trip to Cary is an hour and a half of pleasant driving on NC 64. So sometime next week I'm going to pop over and have them give it a look.

I was under the hood of the M5 tonight to check the oil (it's used about 1.25L in a little over 5,500 miles) and found out that the dealer flat out lost one of the AC parts (the cap for the AC service port). It's a ten buck part but still.

Worse, they broke both of the cabin air filter connections...p/n 64318379620 for the right one. The left one is a slightly different p/n but same price. So over $200 in parts thanks to some clumsy oaf.
I'm going to have a nice chat with the service manager tomorrow.
if the dealer won't help you, I'd certainly be buying those parts second hand. Should be easy as I don't think those are really ever in demand.

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Thanks to both of you for the update. Is 2000 a rolling year? My son moved to SoCal several years ago with his (2000) M5 and once the SAS problem showed up he couldn't get it past inspection. I'll ask him this weekend at a family gathering.
In CA now, for OBD-II cars MY 2000 >= the only unset monitor allowed is the EVAP system. All others must be set to ready... and you obviously can't have the SES on when you roll in.

This changed around 2013-2014 (A.B. 2289, for the curious) when CA did away with the sniffer, and went OBD-II / visual only. Prior, MY 2000 cars could have two required monitors unset, MY 2001 >= were allowed one. Didn't matter which one(s) in either case, but the sniffer test was still in play...
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