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post #1 of 29 Old 8th February 2019, 07:30 PM Thread Starter
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E39 M5 stereo/navigation upgrade

Hi everyone! Aside from Dynavin, is there any other unit out there that will work for our vehicles and work with the DSP without any modifications? I have searched and seems like there are units such as DICE/intravee and others but would be great not having to run wires from the radio to the trunk (unless I understood the installation incorrectly). A new head unit will be great but I really just want to be able to connect my phone and stream from the files within. I don’t mind having an aux cable attached but I’m looking for quality sound. I have a 2001 model and has the cassette player. I did get a cassette adapter but sound isn’t the best. I understand some newer oem stereo/nav units are able to receive an aux input but was wondering which model stereo/nav units are the ones that will work with my vehicle.

Another thing is I have an annoying rattle coming from the passenger rear speaker/subwoofer. Sounds like something other than the speaker itself is causing the rattle. I did some research and seems like some plastic components in the rear deck are known to cause this. I do have the power sunshade and functions normal.

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If you can find a dice, the wires run from the boot to under your seat. The dice then becomes bluetooth or you run an aux in to your center council. No wiring goes
to your head unit. The dice unit itself fits under the seat and wires go under your door sill. Installation is super
simple. The idea was you needed to access the dice for software upgrades.

Wether or not you need a DSP converter (separate unit that looks just like the Dice) depends on your year of M.
That unit fits in the boot. Bavauto has them for 49.00 clearance.



I messaged Clemster and got my dice from a salvage car.


I can't help you with rattles. My stereo is now working well enough to drown them out.
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Thank you for the reply! I have a 2001, production date 10/2000, with DSP. So will I need the additional Dice module? Also, is there a certain model Dice I need? Thank you
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Thank you for the reply! I have a 2001, production date 10/2000, with DSP. I also have the M-audio package. So will I need the additional Dice module? Also, is there a certain model Dice I need? Thank you
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The rear deck has multiple things that rattle. I took mine apart and sound deadened the majority of it, the rattle was driving me crazy. For this application, you'll want the closed cel foam type. (I bought a whole bunch of Noico Liner from Amazon, but it looks like they replaced it with this: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07CZ2DHV3..._t2_B00URV8MFC ) I also used Tesa tape around all of the tabs, etc that fit in.



Main parts that rattled were the speaker grills, third brake light, and the areas where the panel fit into the body.
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The rear deck has multiple things that rattle. I took mine apart and sound deadened the majority of it, the rattle was driving me crazy. For this application, you'll want the closed cel foam type. (I bought a whole bunch of Noico Liner from Amazon, but it looks like they replaced it with this: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07CZ2DHV3..._t2_B00URV8MFC ) I also used Tesa tape around all of the tabs, etc that fit in.



Main parts that rattled were the speaker grills, third brake light, and the areas where the panel fit into the body.

Thank you for the response. I will take it all apart some time and reinforce it with the liner you recommended. It almost sounds like one of the subs in the back is blown. Do you have a DIY for the removal of the rear deck? I looked into that and someone took apart the seats, c-pillar and a bunch of other things to remove the rear deck. Not sure if that’s the only way so was wondering if you had any advice on that. Thanks
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Thank you for the response. I will take it all apart some time and reinforce it with the liner you recommended. It almost sounds like one of the subs in the back is blown. Do you have a DIY for the removal of the rear deck? I looked into that and someone took apart the seats, c-pillar and a bunch of other things to remove the rear deck. Not sure if thatís the only way so was wondering if you had any advice on that. Thanks
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Thank you for the response. I will take it all apart some time and reinforce it with the liner you recommended. It almost sounds like one of the subs in the back is blown. Do you have a DIY for the removal of the rear deck? I looked into that and someone took apart the seats, c-pillar and a bunch of other things to remove the rear deck. Not sure if that’s the only way so was wondering if you had any advice on that. Thanks
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Hi Hsulei,

There's very limited choice on aftermarket head units that support the OEM DSP amplifier/speaker setup. It's the Dynavin N6/N7 and the Avin Avant 4 (the 3 has been discontinued). Assuming you are in the USA, then the Dynavin you must only buy from Jeff at J&T distributing in Fresno California as he's the only re-seller who properly supports these units for after sales care and warranty support. If you are outside the US, then it's pot luck on if the importer provides anywhere near Jeff's level of service. The Avin is also another USA only brand and the Avant 4 is due out soon. These units do have a close to OEM monitor look about them, but as is usual with these Chinese units, reliability isn't very good and at least on the E46 fanatics forum there's a significant number of owners who aren't/weren't happy with their units. Maybe the Avant version 4 will get it right?

Is there any pressing reason you wish to keep the DSP speaker setup? the general consensus is that the audio performance is mediocre, even when they were new! nowadays, given the time with UV impacts, heat/cold and wet/dry and general extreme conditions inside a car's cabin, those speakers will be past their best. If it's 'keeping it stock' thats the main reason, perhaps think about removing the oem stuff, putting in much better performance and sounding aftermarket products and if/when it comes time to sell, swap the oem stuff back in ?

Quality sound isn't usually associated with Aux in or Bluetooth Audio, however that is subjective. From what you say you want, then perhaps the GROM unit that has bluetooth audio streaming and phone calls capability might well be the product you need/want. I'd overall say to get a new modern head unit from the established and quality brands

Cheers, Dennis!

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