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Old 10th May 2019, 08:51 AM
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Jim,
the buttons don't do a thing but light up at night and look exactly like the stock stereo (with Nav). As for how to get one, Dennis can help you with that - he designed and built them and will sell you one.
As you can see, it looks stock
The Alpine deck does Car Play or Android Auto. I also added a back up camera which is nice for parallel parking in San Francisco.
Alpine has a pretty good reputation, much better than the Chinese clones (Dynavin, Avin, etc).
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Old 10th May 2019, 11:01 PM
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Please share how to purchase the trim and what those buttons do!

For me the priorities are:
- OEM looking
- CarPlay
- Reliable
Hi Jim,

The buttons are backlit and dimmable when connected to the rolling controller on the side of the instrument cluster trim. This is my 'phase 1' for the NXG-39 so the buttons don't do anything - they're there to provide a close to oem look. 'Phase 2' is where the buttons can be used to control other products fitted to the car as the PCB within the fascia can detect which button has been pressed, so future upgrading can be done and to complement that, the symbols/characters on the buttons can be done to whatever legend is needed to match the product added - things like seat heaters/massagers, TPMS systems, Air Ride controllers etc etc.

With this solution you indeed get the OEM looks and if you choose a high quality head unit you get genuine Apple CarPlay and/or Android Auto and of course excellent reliability The iLX-W650 that Jared has just installed is a fantastic unit at around $300 USD from well known online discounters/sellers !

I'll drop you a PM

Cheers, Dennis!

2003 Ex-Police E39 530 Diesel Touring. Alpine White, 260,000+ Miles & climbing!

Wheels;
19" Hartge Nova 5 - with custom painted 'Flash Chrome' centres & Polished Lips (set of 5)
19" Hartge Nova 5 - Awaiting custom re-finish (set of 4)
19" Hartge Classic - with custom powder coated centres in shadow chrome & diamond cut/no lacquer lips (set of 5)
20" Hartge Classic - Awaiting custom re-finish
19" 3Pc Forged wheels - ID retained until re-built & finished (2 sets)
20" 3Pc Forged wheels -ID retained until re-built & finished
19" Centres - ID retained until rebuilt & finished
Audio;
Full Custom Audio install - Arc Audio KS Mini ampliifers. DLS 5.25" 2 way front components & 4" 2 way co-axials. JL Audio 8W3-V3 subwoofer in stealth enclosure. Parrot Asteroid Smart head unit, custom door builds for DLS front stage & Earthquake SWS6 flatline subwoofers, custom rear pillar speaker pods. LumiDock iPod dock,

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H&R Springs, ExoticsTuning front lip spoiler, Sport F/R bumpers upgrade, Carbon Fibre effect printed Vinyl roof wrap, High gloss black vinyl window trim wrap, Hartge bonnet/hood & tailgate badges, rear rooftip spoiler, matt Black kidney grille, projector foglamps.

Internal;
Hartge auto gearlever, Hartge Handbrake handle, Hartge door sill strips, E46 M3 CSL Alcantara/Tri-stitch SMG steering wheel, full Black Leather Sport seats,

Engine;

Custom ECU re-map biased for more Power & Torque in Steptronic mode, EGR delete, K&N induction kit, Stainless steel de-cat, Stainless steel exhaust backbox with twin oval pipes. Manual 5 spd gearbox conversion.

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Dennis and Jared - I love the solution and implementation. Having upgraded/replaced the DSP speakers and amp, my Dynavin N7 now feels like the SQ bottleneck. Keeping the OEM look was important to me (and the DSP amp initially) but I really like this new solution from Dennis.

Couple of questions - sorry to take thread slightly off topic:
Jared/Dennis - what is the preferred solution for e39 steering wheel control/integration these days and do you wire it behind the head-unit or in the trunk, before the extension cable?
Jared - are you able to get audio via USB using Android auto on the Alpine headunit?
Jared - did you have to do the handbrake connection/wire?

I had more or less decided to replace the Dynavin with the Kenwood DMX706S, but the release date keeps getting pushed and this Alpine unit may just do the trick.

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Soren,
My installer used an off the rack universal adapter for the steering wheel controls and they all work.
USB off the back of the unit was run through the center tunnel and out the passenger side by the passenger seat. I can then attach my phone and play my stored music, Pandora, Napster, etc through Android Auto.
To my knowledge, nothing was done with the Handbrake Lever.

Also, check www.Crutchfield.com . You put in what car it is for, add the head unit to your cart and up come suggestions for what you will need for the install. They can make a connector for you and will add the steering wheel control adapter. they really do have things figured out.

The Alpine unit has a stack-on Amp, but i believe it then makes it too deep to fit with the HVAC. Most likely, you would remote the amp as the wiring is still there.
Good luck,
Jared

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Thanks for the swift reply Jared.

I assume you use an Android and am curious if your audio is streamed via the USB cable or Bluetooth? With Dynavin, the only option is by Bluetooth, which limits the sound quality, even when the "mirrorlink" USB connection is used.

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Yes, I am on a Samsung Note 8. For the Alpine unit, and most of the other big name head units that I looked at, you have to plug in to USB to use Android Auto. So once plugged in to USB, you are streaming through that connection. if you don't plug-in, you'll be on Bluetooth and can stream that way. Your choice.
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Hi Sorenm,

Nicely explained and updated there by Jared!

Yes, the N7 would be an 'SQ' bottleneck as you put it if you were to install and use excellent quality amplifiers and speakers - they wouldn't play to what they'd be capable of. The Dynavin is the only chinese unit which mentions using a Burr Brown DAC (digital to analogue converter) which will immediately make it sound just that much better than all the other chinese head unit clones out there. To take advantage of a better DAC and the output it'd produce, the rest of the IC's and electronic components as well as the PCB design ALL need to be matching high grade - which the Dynavin fails to mention so assume it's just generic/base level. The Alpine iLX-W650 will sound massively better in comparison especially if your upgraded amplifier and speakers are fitted and setup well .

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Jared - thanks for the information to help Sorenm

Cheers, Dennis!

2003 Ex-Police E39 530 Diesel Touring. Alpine White, 260,000+ Miles & climbing!

Wheels;
19" Hartge Nova 5 - with custom painted 'Flash Chrome' centres & Polished Lips (set of 5)
19" Hartge Nova 5 - Awaiting custom re-finish (set of 4)
19" Hartge Classic - with custom powder coated centres in shadow chrome & diamond cut/no lacquer lips (set of 5)
20" Hartge Classic - Awaiting custom re-finish
19" 3Pc Forged wheels - ID retained until re-built & finished (2 sets)
20" 3Pc Forged wheels -ID retained until re-built & finished
19" Centres - ID retained until rebuilt & finished
Audio;
Full Custom Audio install - Arc Audio KS Mini ampliifers. DLS 5.25" 2 way front components & 4" 2 way co-axials. JL Audio 8W3-V3 subwoofer in stealth enclosure. Parrot Asteroid Smart head unit, custom door builds for DLS front stage & Earthquake SWS6 flatline subwoofers, custom rear pillar speaker pods. LumiDock iPod dock,

External;
H&R Springs, ExoticsTuning front lip spoiler, Sport F/R bumpers upgrade, Carbon Fibre effect printed Vinyl roof wrap, High gloss black vinyl window trim wrap, Hartge bonnet/hood & tailgate badges, rear rooftip spoiler, matt Black kidney grille, projector foglamps.

Internal;
Hartge auto gearlever, Hartge Handbrake handle, Hartge door sill strips, E46 M3 CSL Alcantara/Tri-stitch SMG steering wheel, full Black Leather Sport seats,

Engine;

Custom ECU re-map biased for more Power & Torque in Steptronic mode, EGR delete, K&N induction kit, Stainless steel de-cat, Stainless steel exhaust backbox with twin oval pipes. Manual 5 spd gearbox conversion.

Plenty more modifications to come!
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Thanks Dennis.

Upgrading the e39 audio system is a slippery slope - or at least for me it has been. First, the Dynavin replaced the stock headunit which was a nice upgrade in sound quality and features. Next, a Mosconi DSP amp replaced the stock amp driving the front and subs; then the front stock speakers went; and just recently a separate Hertz amp was added to drive the subs. They key to me was keeping it all stealthy and the interior looking completely stock. The Dynavin's mirror link works reasonably well to operate an Android phone from the headunit, but it will not take audio via USB and feeding the system by Bluetooth is troubling. And there is the primary motivation for exploring alternatives to the Dynavin.

Any thoughts on the Alpine unit vs the upcoming Kenwood DMX706S?

Cheers,
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