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post #11 of 29 Old 14th February 2019, 11:47 PM
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Xtrons has a nice HU with octa core CPU, 4 GB RAM and lots of features.
You can then order the USB stick from Rolf Resler to hardware interface with the iBus and install the iBus android app with the DSP add-on to have full control of your stereo again.
Not to mention access to all the configuration and vehicle status info on your HU.
There are a few members on here that have gone this route and seem to be more than happy with it...
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Hi Hsulei,

There's very limited choice on aftermarket head units that support the OEM DSP amplifier/speaker setup. It's the Dynavin N6/N7 and the Avin Avant 4 (the 3 has been discontinued). Assuming you are in the USA, then the Dynavin you must only buy from Jeff at J&T distributing in Fresno California as he's the only re-seller who properly supports these units for after sales care and warranty support. If you are outside the US, then it's pot luck on if the importer provides anywhere near Jeff's level of service. The Avin is also another USA only brand and the Avant 4 is due out soon. These units do have a close to OEM monitor look about them, but as is usual with these Chinese units, reliability isn't very good and at least on the E46 fanatics forum there's a significant number of owners who aren't/weren't happy with their units. Maybe the Avant version 4 will get it right?

Is there any pressing reason you wish to keep the DSP speaker setup? the general consensus is that the audio performance is mediocre, even when they were new! nowadays, given the time with UV impacts, heat/cold and wet/dry and general extreme conditions inside a car's cabin, those speakers will be past their best. If it's 'keeping it stock' thats the main reason, perhaps think about removing the oem stuff, putting in much better performance and sounding aftermarket products and if/when it comes time to sell, swap the oem stuff back in ?

Quality sound isn't usually associated with Aux in or Bluetooth Audio, however that is subjective. From what you say you want, then perhaps the GROM unit that has bluetooth audio streaming and phone calls capability might well be the product you need/want. I'd overall say to get a new modern head unit from the established and quality brands

Cheers, Dennis!
Hi Dennis! Thank you for taking the time to provide me with all this info. I really appreciate it. I am in the US so shouldn’t be an issue with obtaining the Dynavin unit should I choose to go that route. I purchased my M5 as a weekend/summer car and will not be driving it much. I think the factory sound is sufficient for me. It has the M-audio package and isn’t really that bad (to me). I just want to have Bluetooth audio streaming mainly but a cd/mp3 player that I can load into the head unit would be a plus. I don’t want to spend a lot of money if it’s not going to be used often. I was just wondering about what’s out there to suit my needs. It’s seems like the Dice or Grom unit will accomplish the main goal of Bluetooth streaming but will look into all options and decide then. For now, I plan to take apart the rear deck and reinforce it so the rattle goes away.

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Xtrons has a nice HU with octa core CPU, 4 GB RAM and lots of features.
You can then order the USB stick from Rolf Resler to hardware interface with the iBus and install the iBus android app with the DSP add-on to have full control of your stereo again.
Not to mention access to all the configuration and vehicle status info on your HU.
There are a few members on here that have gone this route and seem to be more than happy with it...
Thank you for the info, I really appreciate it. I will have to look into this unit and configuration. I read about the Xtrons units but didn’t know they work with the DSP. Glad to hear several members have it and are happy with it.
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Hi Hasan,

It does sound as though the GROM unit route will be good for what you want considering you won't be driving much and don't wish to spend too much to add this functionality. The only aspects to keep in mind are that the OEM audio modules are getting older now and failing more often/frequently. Each module has multiple points of failure and of course, the majority of them are relatively expensive to fix/resolve! So, longer term, you'll most likely need to shell out substantial amounts to keep it all working/running. Fingers crossed your modules you have currently last a good while, but it's a question of when and not if they fail ...

The thread linked by acmilano is where a number of members have got the xtrons unit and tweaked/fiddled/faffed around with it in order to make things work/fit well. If you are a 'tinkerer' then one of these units along with the info/knowledge in the thread should help when/if there's niggles/issues etc.

Cheers, Dennis!

2003 Ex-Police E39 530 Diesel Touring. Alpine White, 260,000+ Miles & climbing!

Wheels;
19" Hartge Nova 5 - with custom painted 'Flash Chrome' centres & Polished Lips (set of 5)
19" Hartge Nova 5 - Awaiting custom re-finish (set of 4)
19" Hartge Classic - with custom powder coated centres in shadow chrome & diamond cut/no lacquer lips (set of 5)
20" Hartge Classic - Awaiting custom re-finish
19" 3Pc Forged wheels - ID retained until re-built & finished (2 sets)
20" 3Pc Forged wheels -ID retained until re-built & finished
19" Centres - ID retained until rebuilt & finished
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Full Custom Audio install - Arc Audio KS Mini ampliifers. DLS 5.25" 2 way front components & 4" 2 way co-axials. JL Audio 8W3-V3 subwoofer in stealth enclosure. Parrot Asteroid Smart head unit, custom door builds for DLS front stage & Earthquake SWS6 flatline subwoofers, custom rear pillar speaker pods. LumiDock iPod dock,

External;
H&R Springs, ExoticsTuning front lip spoiler, Sport F/R bumpers upgrade, Carbon Fibre effect printed Vinyl roof wrap, High gloss black vinyl window trim wrap, Hartge bonnet/hood & tailgate badges, rear rooftip spoiler, matt Black kidney grille, projector foglamps.

Internal;
Hartge auto gearlever, Hartge Handbrake handle, Hartge door sill strips, E46 M3 CSL Alcantara/Tri-stitch SMG steering wheel, full Black Leather Sport seats,

Engine;

Custom ECU re-map biased for more Power & Torque in Steptronic mode, EGR delete, K&N induction kit, Stainless steel de-cat, Stainless steel exhaust backbox with twin oval pipes. Manual 5 spd gearbox conversion.

Plenty more modifications to come!
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Hi Hasan,

It does sound as though the GROM unit route will be good for what you want considering you won't be driving much and don't wish to spend too much to add this functionality. The only aspects to keep in mind are that the OEM audio modules are getting older now and failing more often/frequently. Each module has multiple points of failure and of course, the majority of them are relatively expensive to fix/resolve! So, longer term, you'll most likely need to shell out substantial amounts to keep it all working/running. Fingers crossed your modules you have currently last a good while, but it's a question of when and not if they fail ...

The thread linked by acmilano is where a number of members have got the xtrons unit and tweaked/fiddled/faffed around with it in order to make things work/fit well. If you are a 'tinkerer' then one of these units along with the info/knowledge in the thread should help when/if there's niggles/issues etc.

Cheers, Dennis!
Thanks for all the info Dennis! You are correct about the factory equipment eventually failing so I will have to consider that...if all else fails I’ll just end up listening to the engine and exhaust note 😀
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Alpine unit with Dennis' surround

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I wanted to post a photo of the Alpine ILX-W650 I just had installed with one of Dennis Cooper's surrounds. It looks great. Although the surround is more than the head unit, I am still very happy.
This was a tryout on my '01 525iT. next up will be the M5. I have been looking at the new Avin Avant 4, but I think this may be the more reliable set-up
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Hi Jared,

I'm glad you like the solution I have brought to the worldwide E39 market and that you are happy!

Could you perhaps create a specific thread for your audio upgrade and the route you go/take ? it then makes subsequent searches easier with more targeted results for anyone searching via the search engines. The only other request is you have some pictures at a more flattering angle!

Cheers, Dennis!

2003 Ex-Police E39 530 Diesel Touring. Alpine White, 260,000+ Miles & climbing!

Wheels;
19" Hartge Nova 5 - with custom painted 'Flash Chrome' centres & Polished Lips (set of 5)
19" Hartge Nova 5 - Awaiting custom re-finish (set of 4)
19" Hartge Classic - with custom powder coated centres in shadow chrome & diamond cut/no lacquer lips (set of 5)
20" Hartge Classic - Awaiting custom re-finish
19" 3Pc Forged wheels - ID retained until re-built & finished (2 sets)
20" 3Pc Forged wheels -ID retained until re-built & finished
19" Centres - ID retained until rebuilt & finished
Audio;
Full Custom Audio install - Arc Audio KS Mini ampliifers. DLS 5.25" 2 way front components & 4" 2 way co-axials. JL Audio 8W3-V3 subwoofer in stealth enclosure. Parrot Asteroid Smart head unit, custom door builds for DLS front stage & Earthquake SWS6 flatline subwoofers, custom rear pillar speaker pods. LumiDock iPod dock,

External;
H&R Springs, ExoticsTuning front lip spoiler, Sport F/R bumpers upgrade, Carbon Fibre effect printed Vinyl roof wrap, High gloss black vinyl window trim wrap, Hartge bonnet/hood & tailgate badges, rear rooftip spoiler, matt Black kidney grille, projector foglamps.

Internal;
Hartge auto gearlever, Hartge Handbrake handle, Hartge door sill strips, E46 M3 CSL Alcantara/Tri-stitch SMG steering wheel, full Black Leather Sport seats,

Engine;

Custom ECU re-map biased for more Power & Torque in Steptronic mode, EGR delete, K&N induction kit, Stainless steel de-cat, Stainless steel exhaust backbox with twin oval pipes. Manual 5 spd gearbox conversion.

Plenty more modifications to come!
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Hi Jared,

I'm glad you like the solution I have brought to the worldwide E39 market and that you are happy!

Could you perhaps create a specific thread for your audio upgrade and the route you go/take ? it then makes subsequent searches easier with more targeted results for anyone searching via the search engines. The only other request is you have some pictures at a more flattering angle!

Cheers, Dennis!
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Please share how to purchase the trim and what those buttons do!

For me the priorities are:
- OEM looking
- CarPlay
- Reliable

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