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post #21 of 32 Old 20th February 2019, 05:54 PM
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Is the one in Madison, WI dark blue with black rims?

One the trim around the windshield/rear panel that can be ripped out and replaced. Mine is starting to show tiny areas of wear, but is a pretty easy DIY repair. You don't need to remove the windshield.

I actually bought my car a few months from a dealer and aside from SAI issue carbon build up it's been a solid runner. I don't use it as a daily. Keep searching forums/craiglist/cars.com etc. for a car. Keep in mind these are close to 20yr old cars and they won't be perfect. Find one that you can live with.

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The taillight seals can also allow water into the area around the radio and CD changer. Another thing to obsess over, I guess.

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and today a 2001 Silver located at Future Auto Sales Glendale California. I was in the area for work with time to kill and I decided to take a look to see the higher end of the spectrum. With 88,000 and a asking price of $27,000, it was yet another let down.
Although the car had no rust from being in California it's whole life, the rear window vapor barriers were shot and I could see moisture on the inside of the car before I set foot on the lot. The rear floor behind the drivers seat was completely soaked with water. I'm not sure how long it's been on that lot with water in it but at $27,000 it's going to sit there and fester.

That, and the windshield rubber moulding along with the rear moulding was completely cracked and dry rotted to the point where sections were missing. The trunk had all kinds of moisture in it as well as the CD changer which is obviously from the failed vapor barriers. For whatever reason the rotted windshield moulding seems to be a common denominator on the $15,000 to $19,000 M5's I've looked at. My guess is they probably don't want to replace the windshield although I believe you don't have to pull the glass on a e39 and can replace the moulding alone. But I'm probably wrong on that..
Glendale, CA is known as a salvage car lot. Meaning a lot of used cars there are salvage title cars. I don't know why that is but that is the reputation there.
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Update: I haven't been having much success trying to find a decent M5.

Outside of paying top dollar for an EAG car, I think what you're going through is normal and I wouldn't give up hope. Definitely worth it to wait longer and get something you like, though I fully admit that wait can be agonizing at times. Seems like the recent auction prices of a few pristine examples is what many are using to increase their asking prices.

Outside of this board, I'd put a little more faith in finding one on sites like Autotrader where the owner had to spend some money on an ad. Of course, I've sold perfectly legit cars on CL with full maintenance history but they weren't as special as an E39 M5.

I also put a lot of emphasis on how well the ad is written, even though that has zero bearing on the quality of the car. I've probably missed out on some deals in the past.


The used car market should pick up in another month or so once cars come out from hibernation.

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Glendale, CA is known as a salvage car lot. Meaning a lot of used cars there are salvage title cars. I don't know why that is but that is the reputation there.
I know exactly the reason why but I better not say

But I'll vouch for the fact that with the exception of my M5 most of the others here are junk.

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130,000 miles and counting...
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Well yesterday I broke down..... My last hope was a 2003 Sterling Grey locally here in Central Florida on Autotrader. After numerous emails the owner finally replied saying it was sold as it should have. Recent maintenance, very well written ad, and right in the sweet spot. 100,000 miles asking $18,000. Being the proverbial last straw and since I've been literally without a car since December while bumming rides off my wife to work, the reality of finding a e39 and daily driving it quickly evaporated. Truth be told, what I needed was a long distance hauler that's relatively reliable for work, (compared to a 17 year old car) that gets right up to speed with modern technology.

I ended up pulling the trigger on a CPO 2016 Silverstone F80 M3. Fully loaded with a 6 speed manual. After test driving numerous cars the F80 has been the closest modern car I could get to replicate my old e46's hands on organic feeling. Even the 2750 RPM's at 78 mph in 6th gear matched my old 330ci. Driving home from Ft. Lauderdale last night with my wife following me in her 335i we we're both relieved that at least I have my own car again!

That being said, I'll still get an M5 one day and the hunt isn't over, but for now I won't be relying on a 17 year old car 100 percent of the time
while it's on jacks all weekend.

Finally in the M club and I'll be back,
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Well yesterday I broke down..... My last hope was a 2003 Sterling Grey locally here in Central Florida on Autotrader. After numerous emails the owner finally replied saying it was sold as it should have. Recent maintenance, very well written ad, and right in the sweet spot. 100,000 miles asking $18,000. Being the proverbial last straw and since I've been literally without a car since December while bumming rides off my wife to work, the reality of finding a e39 and daily driving it quickly evaporated. Truth be told, what I needed was a long distance hauler that's relatively reliable for work, (compared to a 17 year old car) that gets right up to speed with modern technology.

I ended up pulling the trigger on a CPO 2016 Silverstone F80 M3. Fully loaded with a 6 speed manual. After test driving numerous cars the F80 has been the closest modern car I could get to replicate my old e46's hands on organic feeling. Even the 2750 RPM's at 78 mph in 6th gear matched my old 330ci. Driving home from Ft. Lauderdale last night with my wife following me in her 335i we we're both relieved that at least I have my own car again!

That being said, I'll still get an M5 one day and the hunt isn't over, but for now I won't be relying on a 17 year old car 100 percent of the time
while it's on jacks all weekend.

Finally in the M club and I'll be back,
Bill
Bill,

Good choice for daily driver duties! You won't regret missing the on-going issues you'd have with running an older car as daily driver...if nothing else, you'd likely have a long list of needs, right off the bat, for most cars you'll find on the market.

The F80 is a great car and will likely be seen in a different light now that they are out of production. The G80 appears to be coming only in neutered form with its RWD 6MT (i.e. the "pure" version), so BMW seems to be purposely closing the door on 6MTs by only providing the much lower powered M3 that way. The only other option is going to be AWD and 8 speed true automatic to get the 500hp S58.

This whole future plan of BMW's make the thought of an F80 ZCP 6MT intriguing...

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Well yesterday I broke down..... My last hope was a 2003 Sterling Grey locally here in Central Florida on Autotrader. After numerous emails the owner finally replied saying it was sold as it should have. Recent maintenance, very well written ad, and right in the sweet spot. 100,000 miles asking $18,000. Being the proverbial last straw and since I've been literally without a car since December while bumming rides off my wife to work, the reality of finding a e39 and daily driving it quickly evaporated. Truth be told, what I needed was a long distance hauler that's relatively reliable for work, (compared to a 17 year old car) that gets right up to speed with modern technology.

I ended up pulling the trigger on a CPO 2016 Silverstone F80 M3. Fully loaded with a 6 speed manual. After test driving numerous cars the F80 has been the closest modern car I could get to replicate my old e46's hands on organic feeling. Even the 2750 RPM's at 78 mph in 6th gear matched my old 330ci. Driving home from Ft. Lauderdale last night with my wife following me in her 335i we we're both relieved that at least I have my own car again!

That being said, I'll still get an M5 one day and the hunt isn't over, but for now I won't be relying on a 17 year old car 100 percent of the time
while it's on jacks all weekend.

Finally in the M club and I'll be back,
Bill
I agree with Chuck, the M5 while an absolute blast to drive can a tough daily. Even a well sorted will need something. That is why I bought mine as a toy, even then I am still sorting a lot of small issues that come with a 19 yr old car. The right one will come along in time, but I say enjoy your M3 and some modern comforts.

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Good call. The F80 is the closest thing to a modern E39 M5 (the departed Chevy SS aside, per reports) that is on the market. Now you can take your time and wait for the perfect M39 M5 and not worry about basic transportation.

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That said, you probably saw this one in the For Sale forum:

https://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/ca...-88-000mi.html

If I was to sell mine (which I'm not!) the ad would read similar...I don't think this will last long assuming there are no stories.

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