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Okay, my turn for a couple questions. My wife has finally okayed the install (it's Christmas, after all), so I guess I'll tackle it over the holidays. I'm looking for full functionality, including phone, streaming music, navigation, etc, and I'm not planning on doing this again, so want to make sure I get it all the first time. I'm sure I'm missing something, and have a couple questions, so here we go for all you guys that have done this before.

First, I'm a 2002 with NO DSP. Already removed. Gonzo. I still have all the factory wiring and DO still have Nav (trunk) and the factory radio module (trunk) as well as the factory 16x9 (obviously).

I believe that I need:
1 x PB7839BP
1 x Ressler Interface
1 x BMW 61138377072 - 3 pin connector for chassis side
1 x BMW 61136931929 - 3 pin connector for interface side
3 x BMW 61130005198 - 3 pins with wire for interface side
5 x 6m RCA's to get signal to my amps
1 x 6m RCA for a backup camera
1 x 6M Fakra Radio Antenna Extension
1 x 6M Fakra GPS Antenna Extension
1 x Xtrons OBD02 OBD connector
1 x 3D printed mounting brackets

Am I missing anything obvious here?

Quick questions:
1. Does anyone have a high-quality backup camera that looks factory? E.g. integrated into the for the plate or the trunk release? There must be 50 options on the XTRONS site
2. Any reason NOT to order from Amazon for $70 less than directly from XTRONS?
3. Is there an option for HD radio in the States? I see DAB+, but that doesn't work here...

Install Process
Since I've already removed my DSP, it seems from everything I've read that this is (over)simplified as: Run RCA's + Fakra cables, Connect cables to amplifiers in trunk, install head unit (inc Ressler), turn on head unit. Did I dumb it down so far that I've missed something?

Thanks folks!

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DougBaker,
There is option that you may want to consider, and that is a tire pressure monitoring system, which I believe will work with the Xtrons head unit.
https://www.amazon.com/XTRONS-Pressu...ure+monitoring

Obviously this also involves dismounting the tires to install the sensors, but I think would be nice to have the tire pressure and temperature on the headunit. Anyone has experience with this system?
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There is option that you may want to consider, and that is a tire pressure monitoring system, which I believe will work with the Xtrons head unit.
https://www.amazon.com/XTRONS-Pressu...ure+monitoring

Obviously this also involves dismounting the tires to install the sensors, but I think would be nice to have the tire pressure and temperature on the headunit. Anyone has experience with this system?
That's tempting - I might get that next time I need tires. Too bad they don't just sell the sensors for those of us with 2 sets of wheels

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There is another option, bluetooth-based TPMS sensors. Don't know how well they work, but not very expensive to add into the overall cost of installing new tires. Then in theory just a matter of running the app on the headunit.

https://www.amazon.com/ZEEPIN-Univer...+tpms+internal
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There is another option, bluetooth-based TPMS sensors. Don't know how well they work, but not very expensive to add into the overall cost of installing new tires. Then in theory just a matter of running the app on the headunit.

https://www.amazon.com/ZEEPIN-Univer...+tpms+internal
Another good option. Thanks!
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Yes, it's called "Consumer Shutdown". See my posts HERE(scroll down to almost the bottom of the long post to where I quote and reply to ger) and HERE on how to do it. Be sure to read where I've posted the known problems you can have when using the Consumer Shutdown, before wiring it all up to make sure that this route will work for you.

Many thanks. Will for sure read your post and decide if it's worth
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need some opinions...

i'd had the dynavin v6 for a year or so before switching to this xtrons. about three or four months into the dynavin ownership, i'd get random sound cut-off/cut-out when turning to the left - while driving. before i got off my lazy *** to figure it out, all audio completely died (which i attributed to the dynavin being faulty as this was common) and i was left with no sound. a few days after audio completely died, i'd noticed my battery wouldn't hold a charge on its own for more than two days. i decided to simply unplug the dynavin/harness (at the back of the headunit itself) and voila, no more battery drain. again, being lazy, i didn't attempt to figure out where the issue might have been - assuming that the dynavin was faulty and also caused the battery drain itself - and simply purchased the xtrons.

after running the new xtrons harness from the trunk to the front, installing the headunit, wiring up the resler dongle (red + green resler wires to red/green single chassis wire, brown resler wire to brown chassis wire, white resler wire to white/grey/yellow chassis wire), and installing the app - i had audio again!

...for three minutes. after three minutes, all audio started to crackle, get softer, and then completely cut-out on its own.

i'm now audio-less yet again.

while i have a few ideas of what it MIGHT be, i was hoping to get opinions to see if there might be something i'm not thinking of at the moment.

thanks!

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Okay, my turn for a couple questions. My wife has finally okayed the install (it's Christmas, after all), so I guess I'll tackle it over the holidays. I'm looking for full functionality, including phone, streaming music, navigation, etc, and I'm not planning on doing this again, so want to make sure I get it all the first time. I'm sure I'm missing something, and have a couple questions, so here we go for all you guys that have done this before.

First, I'm a 2002 with NO DSP. Already removed. Gonzo. I still have all the factory wiring and DO still have Nav (trunk) and the factory radio module (trunk) as well as the factory 16x9 (obviously).

I believe that I need:
1 x PB7839BP
1 x Ressler Interface
1 x BMW 61138377072 - 3 pin connector for chassis side
1 x BMW 61136931929 - 3 pin connector for interface side
3 x BMW 61130005198 - 3 pins with wire for interface side
5 x 6m RCA's to get signal to my amps
1 x 6m RCA for a backup camera
1 x 6M Fakra Radio Antenna Extension
1 x 6M Fakra GPS Antenna Extension
1 x Xtrons OBD02 OBD connector
1 x 3D printed mounting brackets

Am I missing anything obvious here?

Quick questions:
1. Does anyone have a high-quality backup camera that looks factory? E.g. integrated into the for the plate or the trunk release? There must be 50 options on the XTRONS site
2. Any reason NOT to order from Amazon for $70 less than directly from XTRONS?
3. Is there an option for HD radio in the States? I see DAB+, but that doesn't work here...

Install Process
Since I've already removed my DSP, it seems from everything I've read that this is (over)simplified as: Run RCA's + Fakra cables, Connect cables to amplifiers in trunk, install head unit (inc Ressler), turn on head unit. Did I dumb it down so far that I've missed something?

Thanks folks!

Doug

I got one of the regular backup cameras from China that had a good size to fit. Took a bit to get the wiring through the rubber accordion, but did it with some glycerin lube and a coat hanger to push / pull the RCA through. I cut and re-soldered the RCA. The backup camera wasn't anything spiffy, and works 100% better than the old E70 2008 stock backup camera.


I ordered from Amazon. Just fine.


I have no idea on HD radio, couldn't find anything. Would love it.


I used a 4x and a 2x RCA. 4 regular channels, 1 for sub, 1 for backup camera.


I'd suggest you run a 2x speaker cable for an extra set of connections, "just in case". Remote turn on for amp, for example.


That sounds like what I ordered. The Fakra connectors are all mostly the same (after male and female), you just might need to do a little xacto knife trimming to get them to fit. It was hard to find the perfect exact one, with the correct end connector, but once I saw the connectors personally, you can get either 6" adapters, or just trim one side or another.


You could look into a microphone connector for the overhead stock spot. I did it, but haven't gotten it 100% running.

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Okay, my turn for a couple questions. My wife has finally okayed the install (it's Christmas, after all), so I guess I'll tackle it over the holidays. I'm looking for full functionality, including phone, streaming music, navigation, etc, and I'm not planning on doing this again, so want to make sure I get it all the first time. I'm sure I'm missing something, and have a couple questions, so here we go for all you guys that have done this before.

First, I'm a 2002 with NO DSP. Already removed. Gonzo. I still have all the factory wiring and DO still have Nav (trunk) and the factory radio module (trunk) as well as the factory 16x9 (obviously).

I believe that I need:
1 x PB7839BP
1 x Ressler Interface
1 x BMW 61138377072 - 3 pin connector for chassis side
1 x BMW 61136931929 - 3 pin connector for interface side
3 x BMW 61130005198 - 3 pins with wire for interface side
5 x 6m RCA's to get signal to my amps
1 x 6m RCA for a backup camera
1 x 6M Fakra Radio Antenna Extension
1 x 6M Fakra GPS Antenna Extension
1 x Xtrons OBD02 OBD connector
1 x 3D printed mounting brackets

Am I missing anything obvious here?

Quick questions:
1. Does anyone have a high-quality backup camera that looks factory? E.g. integrated into the for the plate or the trunk release? There must be 50 options on the XTRONS site
2. Any reason NOT to order from Amazon for $70 less than directly from XTRONS?
3. Is there an option for HD radio in the States? I see DAB+, but that doesn't work here...

Install Process
Since I've already removed my DSP, it seems from everything I've read that this is (over)simplified as: Run RCA's + Fakra cables, Connect cables to amplifiers in trunk, install head unit (inc Ressler), turn on head unit. Did I dumb it down so far that I've missed something?

Thanks folks!

Doug
You can pretty much go ahead and remove what you have left; the radio is not used, nor is the nav and of course nor is the factory screen. Then if you've already removed the DSP, then you will just connect your amps to the head unit like a normal stereo.

However, if you did have a factory nav with DSP, the way the car is wired, I'm pretty sure you will still need the 6m Xtrons extension cable to run to the trunk. It's what provides all the other connections like the power wires and Ibus wires etc.
I would say the rest of your list looks good and you've got all that is needed, you could even remove the BMW 3 pin connectors... you could hardwire those to the extension harness's extra 4 wire connector (should be removed anyway) or if you happen to have some servo connectors (see my post HERE), you can use those too, but I would just hardwire it and save yourself a few bucks and a separate order.

To your other questions:

1. I tried ever style that make for the E39 and they all sucked. The trunk handle style I didn't like because it made the it too narrow to get my hands in there comfortably and the angle of the camera was too high and you can't adjust it and the quality of the few I tried where not that great.
The license plate light style was no good for the fact that it's built in aftermarket LED for license plate illumination, would flicker with the light checks and the color of the LED was way off and you cant find another to match for the other side. The camera also blocked the light from projecting all over the license plate. And they aren't watertight like the factory light housings as there are big holes in them from the way they designed the retaining clips. And like the other style, the cameras are aimed too high and can't be adjusted.
So I decided the only answer was to take the license plate light style and improve on that style. I wanted it to be as OEM as possible so I removed the OEM license plate housing (be careful, these can be really stuck and I had to purchase a new one but they only cost $13 for a new OEM one) and drilled a hole off to side of it modified it a little with a Dremel so that the wires can go through it and mounted THIS great $30 camera to it. It has little wedge shims that you can install to tweak the angle of the camera, I used both shims. It has great a quality picture and an excellent low light response. And you can select what backup lines you want to use and can even select lines that are for cameras that are offset from center. Also allows me to use stock light bulbs so both sides are balanced looking and the camera only blocks just a tiny bit of light.


2. The only reason to order directly from Xtrons and pay extra is that they give you a 2 year warranty. Where as Xtrons on Amazon or ebay give you a 1 year warranty.

3.We do have HD radio here in the US, and you can buy HD radio tuners, but I'm not sure how you could add it to these units. Somewhere, I've got an old HD tuner from my car PC days that I'm going to play around with one of these days, but I can't remember how it hooks up. And I think most of them will have an external display.
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need some opinions...

i'd had the dynavin v6 for a year or so before switching to this xtrons. about three or four months into the dynavin ownership, i'd get random sound cut-off/cut-out when turning to the left - while driving. before i got off my lazy *** to figure it out, all audio completely died (which i attributed to the dynavin being faulty as this was common) and i was left with no sound. a few days after audio completely died, i'd noticed my battery wouldn't hold a charge on its own for more than two days. i decided to simply unplug the dynavin/harness (at the back of the headunit itself) and voila, no more battery drain. again, being lazy, i didn't attempt to figure out where the issue might have been - assuming that the dynavin was faulty and also caused the battery drain itself - and simply purchased the xtrons.

after running the new xtrons harness from the trunk to the front, installing the headunit, wiring up the resler dongle (red + green resler wires to red/green single chassis wire, brown resler wire to brown chassis wire, white resler wire to white/grey/yellow chassis wire), and installing the app - i had audio again!

...for three minutes. after three minutes, all audio started to crackle, get softer, and then completely cut-out on its own.

i'm now audio-less yet again.

while i have a few ideas of what it MIGHT be, i was hoping to get opinions to see if there might be something i'm not thinking of at the moment.

thanks!
I'm pretty sure you have wired your Resler wrong!!! If I'm reading your post right, you say that you took the red AND the GREEN to some sort of chassis wires?!??? The GREEN on the RESLER is NEVER to be connected to anything except I think for some weird use that has something to do with a reverse camera, that is not applicable to our E39's. What are these "chassis wires" you hooked the green and red to? Power? Ground? If it was power, I will bet that slow crackle to getting softer to completely cutting out, was likely the slow 3 minute death of some component, hopefully just the Resler and not the head unit or the head unit's USB ports or some sort.

But, before you give up and just buy a new one, refer to the beginning of this thread in the second post by Rontgen or the first part of my post HERE and go properly rewire the Resler. Once you have it wired properly hope and pray that something isn't fried. If it still doesn't work, try it in each of the other USB ports. I think 2 ports are on one circuit and the other port is on a separate circuit, so be sure to try them all. Also, try other, known working USB devices in the USB ports as well, to verify they are working. And make sure you get the toast within the IBUS app saying that the USB has been connected or disconnected. If you are not getting the toast's, and your USB ports are working, and you have all the proper Ibus license's purchased (including the DSP license if you have DSP) and activated, then you most likely killed the Resler stick.
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