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My German Autobahn Mile Muncher - '01 Titanium Silver E39 M5

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Hello M5board!

I must say that the M5board has been an irreplaceable source of information and wanted to thank everybody for making the owning experience of this car that much better.

Inspired by members Kiznarsh's thread, I wanted to share my buying story and adventures with the car.

I owned many BMW's over the years and most of them while I lived in California.
Right now I'm living and working in Frankfurt, Deutschland.

This is my 2nd e39 M5, before this one I had a '00 Le Mans Blue which I owned much shorter then I was hoping to. I did have great fun with it and did what these machines were made for, fly down the Autobahn and I got it up to 165 mph on one occasion.

Back to my current M5. I'll start with how I found the car and the road trip to Italy to buy it.

It all started with me scouring car websites all over Europe for M5's when I stumbled upon this listing in Italy.
The car was listed on the Italian website that's similar to craigslist and it's not very big on car listings like Autoscout is.

Listing looked like this.



Very little details, just approximate kilometers, year and that the car is bellissima. Not even a phone number.
I used google translate and sent an email to the owner and got a very short response and on my next email, he didn't even respond.
I then noticed that he had another ad where he was selling a couch and for that he left a contact number. Makes sense, right?
With that info, I then established communication with him on WhatsApp. It took few days to actually get pictures of the car. I didn't even know what color was it, he just kept saying it was light gray.

Production date is 07/2001. Original facelift and slicktop too!







Once I received pictures and VIN, I knew it was a real deal and immediately started planning the trip.
The car was in a small town near Ancona called Sirolo. Booked a flight to Milan and took the train to Ancona where the seller was waiting for us.
I don't speak Italian, and I asked him if he speaks English and he said little, which turned out to be nothing so dealing with a language barrier was fun.

I'm going to start off by posting pictures of the beautiful town of Sirolo.













We spent the night in town and really enjoyed the scenery and food.
Even though it's a tourist town during summer, we couldn't find a single person that was speaking English.
Ordering dinner also proved to be challenging, but it's tough to go wrong with Italian food.

Tiramisu was phenomenal!



Now, back to the car.

First thing I noticed on the car was a check engine light and that the left side Vanos was ticking quite a bit, which he didn't mention.
You could tell that the car was little neglected, but otherwise pretty decent and in original condition which was key.

Single family owned since new, 4 keys, service book and few records. Other than the lower right skirt (there was a small dent which can be seen in the picture he sent me) and front bumper that was repainted due to some scratches, the paint was original all around. Best of all, it had only 45k miles on the clock!







It was obvious that the car will need some work, but that's just what I love to do and I was more than happy to nurture this beast to the condition it deserves. We settled on the price and next day completed the paperwork in the town hall in Ancona and the car was mine!
The car had to stay with the owner until I found the transportation to Germany, so we shook hands with the owner and continued with our trip back to the north of Italy.

We decided to make a mini holiday out of this trip and we stayed two nights in Treviso and planned to visit Venice.

Few shots of a very charming city of Treviso. It has a very interesting city center with narrow streets and cobblestone roads.





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And very good pizza. mmmmmm



Spent the entire next day exploring Venice, my first time and it was a great fun! Lots of beautiful and interesting things to see.





























After a very nice trip, it was time to head back to Frankfurt and start looking for a transport.

It was 2 long weeks before I saw the car again. In the meantime, the parts pile was growing.



Found a very reliable guy for transport and the car arrived safe and sound.







Noticed that the original Running-in instructions were still present on the windshield. It was hanging on by a thread so I removed it and put it in the service book to remain as part of cars documentation.



I didn't waste any time and put those new parts to use.
Out with the nasty old filters and worn out wipers.



Oil separator vent hoses were very icky and it was time for a new pair.



I'm a big Liqui Moly fan, but I figured I try that BMW's magic fluid made by Shell. For the next time, I will probably go with LM.



Also picked up a BMW oil bag for the trunk to keep things tidy and clean.



Bumper trims have done their job of protecting the bumper so I got a fresh pair of new trim for both sides.





Now it was time to tackle that check engine light. I scanned the car back in Italy with PA Soft and it was throwing codes for exhaust camshaft sensors on both banks, conveniently located at the back of the engine right next to the firewall.

When removing the cabin air filter box, I was pleasantly surprised how everything was intact, all of the plastic tabs were still there and even the glue that holds air filter tube was still present. It honestly looked like it was never removed before.





Passenger side wasn't that bad and it was fairly accessible. Drivers side sensor, I had to attack from under the car. There was no way I could reach it from the top.





Both sensors were original with a date stamp from 02.07.2001. On top of that, they are old design. I assume that intake sensors are original and old design as well so I plan to replace them too.

After buttoning up everything, clearing codes and starting the car, the difference was astonishing.
The engine idled much smoother and Vanos wasn't making any weird sounds anymore. Amazing how these small sensors made such a big difference.

I didn't take pictures of this part, but the car had tint all around which I had to take off because it would be instant fail at the inspection.
In Germany it is not allowed to have any type of foil on the front windows and for the rear, you need some types of certificates so I decide to take everything off.
One of the worst jobs I had to do. I tried using a heat gun before taking the foil, but it still left a huge amount of glue on the windows.
Lots of elbow grease and acetone, I was able to remove all of the glue from the side windows. I'm left to deal with the back window, but I'm afraid to use acetone as I know that the rear heaters are sensitive and I don't want to damage them. If anybody has a suggestion, I'm all ears.

At this point, I decided to take the car to Dekra for inspection and see with what they come up. I didn't perform full inspection so I was curious.



Got a call later that day from the inspection dude who told me that the car didn't pass and that he will show me the problems when I come to pick it up.

He found the following issues that stopped it from being roadworthy in Germany:

- Front tires excessively worn and not safe for road use. (I was aware of this since the front tires were from 2004 and the rear ones from 2009, an example of Italian old school maintenance, drive them until they explode.
- Front headlights not aimed correctly. (broken adjusters in the left headlight, common e39 problem).
- Rear sway bar bushing bracket sheared off
- Rear upper control arms had cracked rubber on the ball joints and the grease was starting to coming out
- Missing first aid kit and safety west


I'm happy to report that since then I addressed all of the issues and the car passed inspection without any additional problems.

The very next day I had it registered and I was finally able to stretch its legs on the Autobahn!







I think this is more than enough for the first post. More updates coming up. :grin
 
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#8 · (Edited by Moderator)
Thanks for reading!

Great pictures! Thanks for sharing!
Thank you. :)

Wow what a trip. Congratulations, great looking car. The inspection is really something - we don't have anything like that where I am. You can pretty much drive anything as long as it has a license plate and passes the obd-only emissions test. Enjoy!
Thank you!

That's pretty much what I'm used to coming from California, as long as you don't have a check engine light, you're good.
It's quite strict here as it should be. There are no speed limit roads and you must have a car in good mechanical condition.

Excellent post! Congrats on the slicktop too -- something BMW denied North American customers of for the E39 M5. :grrrr:
Thanks! I was researching about that and found the same info. It's quite rare and I dig it.

Thanks for sharing. A great find!
Thanks for reading!

Thank you. :)


To pick up where I left off, post inspection.

I started with upgrading the headlights with Hella G4 projectors. 3rd time I'm doing this on e39.



New headlight adjusters, old ones were literally falling apart as I was removing them.



New Hella G4 Bi-Xenon projectors on the right.









Put an extra layer of butyl to keep the moisture out.



Everything buttoned up and later installed on the car. I'll get some shots of the cut-off soon.



Then the battery crapped out since that too was from 2009. The beast needs a good power supply so I got her a brand new Exide 100Ah.



Next on the list was rear upper control arms. Yellow markings are from the inspection dude.



Got a set from Lemforder. Even though the rubber was cracked, the ball joint was still fine.
It would fail inevitably so it's a good thing I got that sorted. One of the easiest DIY's I've done.







This is the snapped rear sway bar bracket. I was very surprised by this having owned few e39s and daily driving e39 530i for 20k something miles, but after a quick search on here, it appears to be quite common.



Replacement bracket from BMW is ridiculously priced at $70 each.
M5board proved to be a phenomenal source of information once again and someone posted that the bracket from e36 M3 will also fit.
That one is made of steel and bares a price tag of $4.

They are not 100% identical and it took a decent amount of pushing to get into place, but it did the trick.
Also replaced both sway bar bushings while I was in there.









Fan clutch was failing and revving the car sounded like there was a jet engine under the hood.
Got a replacement part from the dealer. Manufacture was BEHR same as the one I removed.





With the help of cheap Chinese tools, this was a very easy task.



Got some fresh spark plugs too.



Two wheel center caps were missing so I went for a new set with updated design which looks much better than the old one.



Next was leaky PS lines and reservoir that were making a mess in otherwise oil free engine bay.









Used a lot of brake cleaner and got everything nice and clean. Installed new lines that I got from the dealer and new reservoir that's actually from e90 series, but identical to the one for M5, just cheaper. Part number - 32416851218



Old fluid looked like coffee and had that burnt smell. I had to get all of that crap out so I did something simple but very effective.

I disconnected the return hose from the reservoir (that's the smaller one of the two) and put the plug on the reservoir.



I then put the return hose into empty bottle, tapped it secure, refilled the reservoir to the brim with ATF and cranked the car for a couple seconds.
I repeated this procedure for a total of 4 times until the fluid started coming out clean and nice red color.
PS fluid capacity is 1.9 L and I exchanged about 2 L this way.
Albeit, starting the car like that isn't very good for the engine, so I had it warmed up before I started doing this.



Then I refilled it for the last time and bled the system. I used Liqui Moly 1100 ATF fluid.



I could immediately feel improvement. The steering response is much better and the PS pump stopped whining.

That's all for this post. More maintenance pictures following. :smile
 
#5 ·
Excellent post! Congrats on the slicktop too -- something BMW denied North American customers of for the E39 M5. :grrrr:
 
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Awesome!
 
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Thanks, that's good info! Then it really is a rare option.

Of course, finger tight, lowered the car on its own wheels and moved it back and forth, got it up on the ramps and torqued to the proper spec under the cars own weight.
I've done few suspension overhaul jobs and I never miss this step. :) Exactly, it made no difference in functionally, just looks nice and fresh. :)
 
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Great thread btw for newcomers looking at what might be typical, even on a low mileage one, of an E39 M5 they're looking to buy. All the stuff you're running across is so very common right down to that broken rear sway bar bracket, headlight adjusters, disintegrated control arm boots, fan clutch, etc. Speaking of which, there are numerous posts over the years of hood damage where a fan clutch wasn't caught in time and/or the fan blades had cracks that propagated too far and the fan explodes. Probably a good idea to replace the fan too when doing the fan clutch (or at least carefully inspect it for cracks, in high stress concentration regions, under a bright light).

It's nice to see you saved this wonderful M5!
 
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Thank you, CSBM5! I couldn't agree more! When I told my friend that the car only had 45k miles his comment was that the car is practically new and that there's nothing to be done.
Well, wrong, it wasn't owned by an enthusiast and now I'm going through all of the common stuff and bringing it up to date with preventive maintenance.

Reading those exact posts where the fan blades where lunched through the hood, is why I replaced the fan clutch immediately and don't think about it anymore. I noticed that it was too loud when I was checking the car in Italy and gave it revs with the open hood (although it can be heard even with the hood closed).
I inspected the fan blades closely, they had no cracks and I felt confident enough to reuse them with the new fan clutch. Even if I change my mind about it down the road, it's literally a 5 minute job.

Keeping up with the preventive maintenance I addressed few more items.

E46 M3 oil cap and new lower timing chain tensioner. I didn't have startup rattle, but I wanted to have fresh tensioner in there.
Old tensioner put up a bit of fight and I had to loosen it with pliers and it came right out. Soaked new tensioner in fresh oil and installed it.





Next on the list were Vanos solenoids. No related codes or problems, but again wanted to know that everything was fresh and in good working order.

Have to thank Sailor24 again for being patient and helpful for when I was doing this for the first time, as well as the creator and participants of the excellent DIY thread for doing this.





Another sign of the low mileage is that the little net on the mesh filter was still present and was just starting to degrade so I was just in time to catch it.
On my old blue M5 with 100k miles the mesh filter was completely gone.



Then I activated each solenoid with a 9V battery and thoroughly cleaned them with brake cleaner until the stream was clean and strong.
I used a compressed air can to blow it out. I know it's best to use a powerful air compressor for this, but I couldn't get my hands on it quickly enough.
I repeated the process until I was satisfied with the clicking of each solenoid.

I removed the old solder and resoldered the contact points with a fresh coat, slapped new O-rings and tested them one more time before installing them back on the car along with the new Vanos gasket.





I got the same results like when I did this on my old blue M5. I felt the car was missing some low-end power compared to the old M5 and servicing Vanos solenoids really made the car feel alive again in the lower rpms.
Very happy with the outcome and I definitely recommend this as part of preventive maintenance!

Past Saturday I replaced pre-cat sensors and much-needed thermostat replacement which I will document in the next post. :)
 
#13 ·
Holy Batman. Great story. Make it all sound so matter of fact to just unscrew one, put in a better looking new one. Oh just dropped the flywheel out.... loved it.
Loved my 2000E39M which came to an early demise. Daily driver is the 2008 E60 S92M with 105K and original clutch. Great reliable machine. Can’t beat it for buy price. Question: How can I find out how many of each model was produced?
Question: any independent shops in Fairfield County Area?


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Haha, thanks! V10 is on the wish list one day for sure.

Here is some data for the E60 - BMW M Registry - FAQ E60 + E61 M5

I wouldn't know any shops in that area, sorry.

Wow impressive, I would have been divorced by now if I spent this much time lol. Great job and inspiration for others thx.
Oh, don't go there. :grin I'm spending way too much time working on the car which is always a great way to start arguing with my gf.
I was pretty much going straight to the garage after my day job and wrench on the car until late hours, but I truly enjoy working on the damn thing as much as I like driving it. Thanks!

I don't drive much now during winter, but I think some of the things I've done are a must before taking the car out for a pleasant drive.

Nice pics and good work on the restore! You took a chance with the purchase, particularly with the vanos making noise. Glad it wasn't a more serious issue. Enjoy the beast!
Thank you! After reading the codes, I was confident I'm gonna be able to resolve it, but you're right, it could have taken a turn for worse.
M5 in the condition like this and such miles, I was willing to take a gamble. I just wish I made before/after video on changing the exhaust CPS because the difference was remarkable.

Pretty hard to beat a story surrounding traveling to Italy to buy an M5, sightseeing in Venice, and then having the M5 while living in Germany!

Thanks for the story and the pics. I read this on the other forum you had posted in but wasn’t a member so I couldn’t comment.

Glad to see this here!

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Haha, thank you, it truly was an enjoyable experience. Yup, I'm on ZHPMafia, had few of those cars and the company there is also great!

I had a similar trip to Italy not long ago when I bought an E31 850i with 6 speed manual and 68k miles in Turin. Unfortunately, that magnificent machine didn't stay with me for very long.

Regarding driving the M5 in Germany and Autobahn, I ripped through some amazing roads in California and Europe, but driving the M5 on the Autobahn is the most fun I had behind the wheel.

Here's a piece of action from the last summer when the best traffic sing in the world comes up.

 
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Pretty hard to beat a story surrounding traveling to Italy to buy an M5, sightseeing in Venice, and then having the M5 while living in Germany!

Thanks for the story and the pics. I read this on the other forum you had posted in but wasn’t a member so I couldn’t comment.

Glad to see this here!


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Thanks for the tip! Not sure if I can find the same stuff in Germany, but at least I can get something similar.

great thread and congrats on your purchase
Thank you! :)

Fantastic post and congratulations! I'm glad this M5 fell into your hands and is being brought back to tip-top shape.
Thank you! I'm sure the M5 would say thanks too if it could. :grin

Couple weeks back it had an unusual way of saying thanks by giving me a check engine light for pre-cat o2 sensors and another small diy job.

100 euros later and that was sorted out easily and quickly.
I used OEM Bosch sensor. Very easy job, I didn't even have to remove any undercarriage protection.







Last Saturday I completed the fiddly task of replacing the thermostat.

The winters in Germany are relatively cold and whenever I found myself on the open road, the needle for the temperature would take a big drop.
We all know that it's not good for the engine to work constantly cold and I wanted to remedy that asap.

Let's dig in.



Everything moved out of the way and ready to pull the thermostat housing.



It was a royal pain to get it out. The pipes were really stuck on there and only after I sprayed a dab of WD-40 on the O-rings I was able to pull it out from the engine.





Old tstat removed, surface cleaned and installed the new one. I went with good old Behr.



I replaced all of the while in there items, O-rings on the connecting pipes, temp sensor, aux fan switch, upper radiator hose, radiator drain plug, vanos crush washers...
The water pump has date stamp from 10.07.08 which matches the records that it was replaced in 2008.

I also wanted to replace the lower radiator hose as well, but for the life of me I couldn't disconnect it from the radiator, so I left it alone for now.
I'm coming back for that sucker later with some bigass plumber pliers.





Now the trickiest part to assemble everything correctly.
I really didn't want to do this job again so I got everything clean and then lubed up the O-rings and seating positions with technische vaseline.
I also put a dab of gasket maker on the mating surface of the tstat and water pump to be extra safe and gingerly assembled everything.



Green coolant was present in the system, so I flushed the radiator and the block few times, and refilled with proper blue BMW coolant.



I must say I love the self-bleeding system. Just followed the TIS procedure, turn on the ignition, set the temp to max and blower to low setting. Start filling up and that's it.

I let everything settle down and went to the Christmas market for some Bratwurst and Glühwein.



It was nice chilly 3 °C degrees so perfect time for a late night test drive.

Went to the Autobahn and got some nice readings. The temp needle stayed right in the middle and there are no apparent leaks. Success!



I've put about 200 miles since and everything is great. Temperature is stable and no leaks.

This pretty much brings us up to date with everything I've done so far.

I scored a nice set of Technical Graphite trim awhile back that I plan to install, just need to acquire a leather handbrake lever.
I'm really not a fan of Bruyere club trim in black interior and can't wait to get rid of it.

On the side note, I'm really thinking to pull a trigger on Eisenmann Sport exhaust.
I'm all about keeping the car stock and original, but I think that stock exhaust is just too quiet.
I had a guy coming up to me after I parked and asked me if it is 520i?! :laugh
Not that I care, I just want to hear more of that magnificent V8 sound.

Considering all of the German rules and laws, I basically have 2 options when it comes to exhaust, Eisenmann Sport or Supersprint performance/magnum.
Everything else is too loud and doesn't have TÜV approvals. If you put something without proper certificates, means the car will fail inspections and serious troubles with Polizei if they hear me barreling down the road.

I had a chance to hear Supersprint magnum mufflers in person and they seemed somewhat quieter than expected and not that much louder than the stock mufflers.
So I would go with Eisenmann Sport mufflers for sure and if I place an order now, I can take the delivery in mid-January. Decisions, decisions...
 
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Thanks! Hah, yes. Went to the hardware store and asked for vaseline. Guy chuckled and showed me this. Did the trick!



Good job. Don't forget you can access KTEMP in #7 of the secret menu and watch the tstat behavior on warm-up and normal operating temperatures.
Thank you. :) I've been meaning to do that. Good way to follow tstat behavior.

I had a nice road trip to Cologne a few days ago. I just love every second I spend behind the wheel of this beast.

4 people, small luggage and we were comfortably cruising 120-150 mph most of the time. None of my passengers are fans of driving fast, and at no point was I told to slow down.
Just compliments that they traveled comfortable and that the car feels sturdy and safe at the higher speeds. They even loved the sound of the engine.

It truly is the perfect machine to fly down the Autobahn fast and comfortable.

After the trip, I had to wash off the dirt and I used that opportunity to take few pictures.









 
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Good job. Don't forget you can access KTEMP in #7 of the secret menu and watch the tstat behavior on warm-up and normal operating temperatures.
 
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Wow, great thread! I've been busy lately and just saw it but I'm all caught up! Glad it's working out for you and now I remember when you mentioned your plans on going to Italy for it.

No matter how many times I've seen it, it's really fun seeing others go through the same typical repairs/preventative maintenance items. It's like a right of passage. :)

The previous owner must've really let things go because 45k miles is nothing, but happy to see it in your capable hands. Also your paint looks fantastic; have you polished and waxed it recently or just a simple wash?

Looking forward to more updates!
 
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Thanks, Kiznarsh! There were few bumps, but everything worked out in the end.

Yeah, doesn't matter how many miles are on the clock, previous maintenance and age is what counts.
PO just kept it in the garage and didn't drive it. He's not a car guy and in his eyes this car was come nuova.
I could've left some things alone, but I like when the car is in a certain way and tip-top shape.

I've done nothing to the paint haha. This wasn't even a proper hand wash, just a quick blast with a pressure washer. Like with every self-serve car wash, hand washing with a bucket is forbidden. I usually ignore that and break out the bucket and microfiber mitt anyway, but the worker was there so I couldn't do that this time.

I know some people are not a fan of TiAg, but it's one of my favorite colors. Easy to keep clean and it will always look good.
The paint is in good condition, but come nicer weather I plan to detail the exterior.
 
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Haha, I did make it look easy with the pictures. :laugh

Im gonna follow this thread! Thumps up
Thanks for reading!

I refreshed belts and pulleys over the weekend.

Searched the forum and found the corresponding pulleys to be suitable.
I went with Ruville parts which had INA engraved on them.

Water Pump / Alternator / Power Steering Belt - 11281710045 x2
AC Compressor Belt - 531076010 x1
And Continental belts.

Fairly easy and quick job to do. Drove the car onto the ramps, removed the fan clutch and underbody panel and that gives you enough space to work with.





All 3 pulleys were shot and spinning freely, but surprisingly didn't make that much noise.
AC belt was replaced at some point and was still good, while the serpentine had cracks.



Glad to have done this. The parts are not expensive and it's good maintenance.

And now the upcoming major update.

I decided to replace the clutch. When I test drove the car in Italy it wasn't that bad and felt like an old original clutch.
Now that I've been driving it more, I can feel that it's showing symptoms of a failing clutch.

For example, the clutch pedal is very stiff and catches I would say kinda high.
If I'm not careful with the gear changes and my foot isn't entirely off the clutch, it will slip. If it's leaned just a bit on top of the clutch pedal, it will start to slip.
When I push it hard and just go through the gears, it will never slip and I can probably get a lot more miles out of this clutch, but it's not very enjoyable to drive and since this is probably the original clutch it makes sense to change it before it gets worse and I burn the flywheel completely. Hopefully, I can get away without replacing the flywheel this time, but I won't know that until the transmission is out.

So I made a pretty decent parts list for this job which I will post later down the road. There is a lot of useful information on the board regarding this topic which helped a lot.

Unfortunately, this isn't something I can do myself on the floor of my garage and I found what appears to be a very good shop that will do the work for me.
They are not far from me and they specialize in M models from this era. I paid them a visit last week and had a nice chat with them. They are also BMW enthusiast who daily drive E36 M3, E46 M3 and X5 M. I was told that they do everything by the book and won't rush the job which is important to me.

They were actually working on another E39 M5 that day. '02 Le Mans blue M5 with 100k miles that was getting around $7.000 worth of work. New guides, vanos, bearings... Kinda scary to hear and see this. His opinion is that this example was seriously neglected and was just nasty when they opened it up.



My M5 should go under the knife on Wednesday so stay tuned.
 
#32 ·
What an awesome introductory thread! Definitely subscribing for future updates. I am actually in the process of performing similar maintenance on my recently acquired '03 M5. It has been a fun process, but I wish I had the time and discipline to document everything like many users on this board are doing. Keep up the good work!
 
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Thank you, sir! Wish you good luck with your beast. :)

The good work indeed continues. I left the car at the shop this morning and I was getting updates all day.

Good thing about a car from Italy is that the undercarriage is rust free and things were going smoothly according to him.

The exhaust really is gigantic.





I had a diff leak at the input shaft seal so they knocked out that as well. The rest of the diff is dry. Had the same leak on my old M5 from there.







Cracked driveshaft center bearing.







Guibo was still good, but replaced with a new one anyway following the good old logic of while in there.



And my suspicions about the clutch were correct. Clutch disc and pressure plate are toast.









The previous owner was a proper douchebag in the whole buying process and now I know he shouldn't be allowed to operate a kick scooter let alone a clutch in a car with 400 PS. Though, granted it's not mission impossible to burn the clutch in this car quickly.

According to the shop the flywheel is still good which is a relief to hear.

I should pick up the car tomorrow. Very excited!
 
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