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post #1 of 11 Old 13th August 2017, 04:14 AM Thread Starter
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Have one of the killer airbags-but not in recall..

Checked my air bag, its one of the killer Takata in the serial number range..

But by VIN, the car is not subject to recall- must have been retrofitted..

Have left it unplugged, a guy was killed by one in Sydney last month. Shrapnel went through his neck.

Anyone had this situation, want to get my facts together before any arguments with the dealer re replacement, can they deny if its not on the VIN record as a subject to recall bag?
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I've seen at least 3 or 4 guys bring up this same question and none have reported their personal results as far as I can tell.
I would go in with a pleasant attitude about this. You're likely to get more help. There's a few reasons the dealership (SA) should take care of you regardless. First, they get reimbursed by BMW for recall work. Second it gets your BMW in the shop where they can pick it apart and sell you some "needed" maintenance. Third, you're already a BMW owner and if they take care of you, you're likely to return for parts, service, or your next BMW. Fourth, and admittedly the least likely reason they'll take care of you, it's the right thing to do. You have a known to be deadly airbag in your BMW- regardless of how it got there.

If they won't do it, I would go up the ladder. Contact BMW of Australia customer service. Call them, don't email. They will understand the above, and they're likely to realize that taking care of this airbag is cheap insurance. Insurance against terrible PR should something happen to you after they refused to replace it.

I hope it works out for you. Let us know how it goes so others can benefit from your expierence. No matter what, replace it yourself if you have to.
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I brought in my 2002 for the airbag recall.

Kept me waiting for about 2 hours.

They washed the car and it needed it.

A couple days later a looked at the paperwork closely and it said.....

....the airbag wasn't part of the recall and they didn't replace it.

I was annoyed.

The words they used were that it "wasn't affected."

I have a second recalled E39 I am bringing in tomorrow and I hope it not a waste of time, again.

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I brought in my 2002 for the airbag recall.

Kept me waiting for about 2 hours.

They washed the car and it needed it.

A couple days later a looked at the paperwork closely and it said.....

....the airbag wasn't part of the recall and they didn't replace it.

I was annoyed.

The words they used were that it "wasn't affected."

I have a second recalled E39 I am bringing in tomorrow and I hope it not a waste of time, again.

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They also do a DME update. If you have a tune on your car, make sure they DO NOT do the DME update.

No airbag replacement (as I suspected based on model year of car).

Once they took my car in, it took about 30 minutes, which is more than reasonable. Airbag replacement might take an extra 10 minutes, but the dealer gets paid the same labor amount since they say you have remove the airbag to properly check.

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Hi Guys,

An update- I emailed BMW Australia, they said if my car isn't listed in the recall, its at my expense if I want the bag replaced...

So today I found this one for $50, it is not the yellow label Takata, but the white label, from an E46 Sport wheel.

Refer to the recall notice from the other posts on here, and it would seem the white label Takata is not affected?

Any opinions or knowledge on this?
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I have a 2000 m5 with a takata 2003 wheel/airbag. Vin does not appear on recall but bag is affected. Some of my experiences from this past month.

1. Went in with just the airbag in hand. Tech verified it was the bad one but would not replace without the car there. I explained that my VIN does not make the recall. They told me to call BMW NA.

2. Called BMW NA. Explained that my vin does not qualify but that I have verified my airbag is bad. BMW NA told me that should not be a problem and that manager incharge of the recall at the dealer should know how to handle it.

3. Called dealer again. Explained everything again. Got a nice SA to help me out. He has been waiting for instructions from BMW NA for almost 2 weeks now. I will call him tomorrow for the latest update.


I also mentioned that I have a 2003 m5 parts car with a qualifying vin but it has no engine/trans/diff. I told the SA that if I have to, I will tow a wrecked/engine-less m5 to the dealer and that I would rather not do that to them.

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Please let us know how it plays out bmw>benz. I have to go down this same path also very soon.

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Have a pre-facelift e39 M5 and did a steering wheel upgrade from a 2003 E46 M3 and made sure it had a white label airbag.

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Curious if anyone knows if these only fit BMWs and no other cars. I realize there are many recalls for the manufacturer, just wondering if these particular bags only fit BMWs? If they do it would seem reasonable that they are responsible for them no matter if one was changed at a later date. Even if the part was purchased at a wreckers they are responsible for having it out there to end up in a wreckers.
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At least in the U.S, BMW should be covering all VINs.

If you read the updated bulletin posted by one of our members, the purpose of adding the '01's was to cover any cars that might have had an airbag replacement (presumably in or out of warranty). So if out of warranty, the BMW system would have no way of knowing. The 01's did not have the defective airbag from the factory. I had no trouble getting mine checked, but my VIN was covered by the update.

The dealership will be helpful as long as BMW NA tells them they will get paid. If you bought the vehicle at the dealership, the dealership would also be liable for damages if something happened in most states (putting defective product in the stream of commerce). A little added incentive, but be nice.

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