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post #21 of 81 Old 5th August 2011, 04:14 PM Thread Starter
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Bare metal?!?!

I've always read that that is a bad idea as the bonding agents they apply at the factory via dipping and electro-plating far surpassed spray on/solvent primers...
Hi Ard,
That may be true and I guess you can never beat factory paint. But in my case there were microscopic blisters in the paint that you could see in certain light, and the guys at the panel shop tell me that the only way to be 100% sure of the new paint quality and longevity was to completely strip off the old base. Otherwise any problems in the paint underneath can come through. That's why they decided to take off all the old paint despite the extra labour involved.

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keep it coming. nice thread. was the 1st page what it used to look like?
Thanks! Yes - the first photos were the "before" shots.

I also grabbed a few more photos today below. They tell me it will be painted next week and assembled the following week - so two more weeks to go!

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Hi Ard,
That may be true and I guess you can never beat factory paint. But in my case there were microscopic blisters in the paint that you could see in certain light, and the guys at the panel shop tell me that the only way to be 100% sure of the new paint quality and longevity was to completely strip off the old base. Otherwise any problems in the paint underneath can come through. That's why they decided to take off all the old paint despite the extra labour involved.

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My reason for bringing this up is that some readers may erroneously think that a 'bare metal respray' is the pinnacle of repaints. It is not, IMO. This is not just 'factory paint', but factory passivisation, factory bonding layers and then factory paint....If there was some kind of defect in your paint, under all the primer layers, that is a VERY unusual situation. I'd want two or three opinions before such an undertaking.

Here, just FYI:

Paint Shop | Production Process | BMW US Factory

Having said that (sorry for being Debbie Downer) it looks like the shop is taking their time and doing a careful job-

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My reason for bringing this up is that some readers may erroneously think that a 'bare metal respray' is the pinnacle of repaints. It is not, IMO. This is not just 'factory paint', but factory passivisation, factory bonding layers and then factory paint....If there was some kind of defect in your paint, under all the primer layers, that is a VERY unusual situation. I'd want two or three opinions before such an undertaking.

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Paint Shop | Production Process | BMW US Factory

Having said that (sorry for being Debbie Downer) it looks like the shop is taking their time and doing a careful job-

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It is true the EDP coatings from the factory and on replacement parts are awesome and in general should not be removed (just scuffed and shot), butI would not worry about it in this case given that:

a.) any EDP style coating from the factory is still in the seems, nooks and crannies, on the backside, etc. These are the common starting areas for rust.

b.) the shop is hopefully using all 2K products (can't imagine they aren't) and preferably a 2K epoxy primer as the base. These "paints" are practically plastics these days and are pretty dang good at sealing the metal.

c.) corrosion can attack any car in any climate, but in general constant exposure to snow, ice, and rain are items that cause big problems. Where the OP is located he probably doesn't have to worry too much about this. Again, see item "a".

d.) If the car is stored inside (not sure if this one is or isn't) any corrosion concerns are GREATLY reduced.

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OK, finally I can see some carbon black! They took the front guards off so that they can properly paint where they meet the "A" Pillar. I'm just in the process of ordering all the black trim that goes around the window frames - geez that's expensive!

The panel shop just sent me these photos today, I'll go and take some better ones and post soon.

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i would love to do something like this to my car
KA-Ching! I sure hope the OP has the balls to tell us how much the total bill, parts and labor, comes to when he's finished.

And by balls, I mean the courage to stand up to possible ridicule. "You spent how much on a twelve year old car?!?!?!?!" Nah, never mind, that's what his wife will be screaming. Anything we say will be tame in comparison.

Hmmmm... maybe a new thread, a survey, guessing the total bill.

I'm going to say 5700 AUD.

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I'm going to say 5700 AUD.
Way more than this.

When I had mine done the total for the paint job alone, excluding all parts, was £6600.
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