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post #1 of 20 Old 19th September 2002, 01:19 AM Thread Starter
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Lightbulb The Shangri-la of M5s. PLEASE READ THIS!

I have become an avid reader of this messageboard. Everybody is so passionate about their E34 M5s. I love that. To the point that when I want to take a break at work, I go to this messageboard to read the new threads.

Every once in a while a newcomer comes to this website to get tips on how to buy an M5 in good condition. However, I have never heard of anybody in this website that has bought one with less than 100k kms. Simply put, there are no M5s in near-new condition in Europe. US? Even worse.

If anyone of you guys are crazy about getting a near-new or practically brand-new e34 M5, FORGET Europe and the US. You might laugh at what I am about to write but here it goes: Try Brazil. I have been looking for an e34 M5 for 2-3 months. I looked at 4 of them which happen to be for sale here (I am Brazilian). The first one I saw is in an authorized BMW dealer, a 1994 Shadowline with 100,000kms. All inspections were done at an authorized BMW mechanic. Still, I thought it was way too much mileage for the car (how naive of me). Plus, the leather was a little too worn out for my comfort.

The second one I found was another 1995 Shadowline. This one belongs to a wealthy man that lives in the suburbs of Sao Paulo. It is in mint condition and has 48,000kms (notice that all my figures are in KILOMETERS!!!). However, he wanted too much money for it: R$77,000 (Brazilian currency), which when divided by 5, will give you 15,400 Pounds Sterling. You wouldn't find a car like this in Britain for less than 25,000 Pounds Sterling.

The third one I found was located in a used car dealership which specializes in German brands. I ALMOST bought this one. It was a 1995 Shadowline (I then found out that all e34 M5s that came to Brazil were Shadowline) with 56,000kms. The dealer wanted R$60,000 for it, I offered R$56,000 cash up front (that's 11,200 Pounds Sterling). He said he would close on that price.

However, right after waking up on a Sunday and grabbing the newspaper, I saw another one for sale which (I later found out) used to belong to the president of the BMW Club of Brazil. This one has 34,000 kilometers. Let me repeat that, 34,000 kilometers. Wait, let me write this yet again, 3 4 , 0 0 0 K-I-L-O-M-E-T-E-R-S :pop: I payed R$64,000 (12,800 Pounds Sterling)

IT IS NOW MINE. Pictures will be up very soon, so that all of you may drool at will.

Now, I know what you are all thinking: "They all messed with the odometer, moron!!!" Nope. What happens is that European vehicles that came to Brazil back in 1995 were sold for twice their price in Europe. SO M5s here were extremely expensive. Therefore, only extremely wealthy people bought this car. Moreover, Brazilian affluent people treat their cars extremely well and only drive their beasts on the weekend because their cars would draw too much attention to them and also because they were afraid of having it stolen. So, these cars were not used as daily commuters. Now that they want to buy their e39 M5s and 745is, they are giving their e34 M5s as part of the payment. So, a lot of mint condition e34 M5s are appearing in Brazilian websites and newspapers for sale.

The prices are very low now because in 1999, the Brazilian currency devalued tremendously in relation to the dollar. Therefore, their price is extremely low when you convert it into Pounds Sterling. Also, by looking at the engines and interiors of these cars, you will surely agree that their mileages are original. Plus, when I was 18, I used to work for an Audi dealership here in Brazil. So I know what a low mileage car is suppose to look like.

If anyone of you are interested in going nuts and taking a trip to Brazil and perhaps shipping one of these to Europe, write to me and I will gladly send you the internet adresses of the stores with pictures of these cars. However, I am afraid that not all of them are posted on the internet.

Please let me write this one more time:

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Sounds like a very nice car! Can't wait to see a pic...

I always loved E34s - first BMW I ever took a long journey in (as a passenger!)

See you out on the road sometime - better hope I'm in Rommel, not Lucie!

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Seriously though, you just have to look and wait. I have found a second E28 M5 in Colorado that has 35,000 miles. It is for sale and I want to buy it. But, there is also an 1991 Artik Silver E34 M5 with 85,000 miles that has my eye.
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Who's your daddy????

I'll tell you who my daddy is! I took a test on the world wide web and according to that test my daddy is OZZY OSBOURNE! Scary ay?

I just have to say, not only are you living in Brazil where the sun shines and they have Carnivals with nearly naked chicks, but you also bought one of the best E34 M5's left in the world....... maybe even THE BEST....

Hell, no I'm just happy its not snowing yet and I can still enjoy my car!

Congratulations.... I'm glad to know this website has shown you the way!

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Very good,

Brazil may be a BIT far for me to go !!

and it would add a couple of thousand Km to
the mileage on the way back !!

Best i can offer you is my car i bought 3years ago
with 50'000miles (around 80km)

There are lower mileage cars out there but its getting
to that stage in their life (6 years old) where work is going
to need doing anyway.....regardless of the mileage.

The other point is....these are Drivers cars, and people LOVE
driving them...hence the high average mileages out there.

Anyway our M5's mature with age, and if treated with respect
& care will last forever.....

Good luck with your find,


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Hi there

I agree that the mileages covered by the cars you mention in Brazil are very low, but you can also can across similar in europe although more dificult to find.

My M5 was purchased about just over four ago form dealer in Marbella with 29000 kms, with just over 3 years of age, the car was originally purchased by a wealthy scandinavian who wanted the car for his second home in the costa del sol, I bought the car of my father a couple of years ago with 80.000 kms and it now has 117.000 kms.

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Bingo ?

Bandit ! great picture of a nice car !

Pepsmeister !
whenever you come across a real -rare- car in Brazil
= a low mileage, 6-speed, M5touring give us (me)
a wink and I just might book a ticket to the carnival
and book a 40' container Santos-Gothenburg for the car.
If low mileage in Brazil is bcs you can not drive the car then
we are still well off in Scandinavia, although we have problems
here as well, but driving is not the problem, parking is.
They had a go for mine just outside the garage, 5 meters
from our neighbours kitchen window. OK he was asleep
at 4.00 o'clock in the morning, but still.

Enjoy your car, now you can forget abt the mileage, DRIVE IT.

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