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Winter is coming and I've got two options:
Option 1: Buy a set of oem wheels. Run the rears in the summer and mount snow tires on the front.
Option 2: Buy a st of 17" rims and snow tires, keeping the staggered setup. I did a cost analysis of this with the assumption I'd be buying all new sets of tires.
The theoretical benefit that can't be calculated is if I ran the rears all the way around, they'll last longer due to the fact they can be rotated. All prices came from TireRack.com.
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BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num="232">$232.00 </TD><TD class=xl28 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num="222">$222.00 </TD><TD class=xl28 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num="215">$215.00 </TD><TD class=xl28 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num="197">$197.00 </TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>Summer Rear</TD><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">275/35/18</TD><TD class=xl28 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num="285">$285.00 </TD><TD class=xl28 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num="293">$293.00 </TD><TD class=xl28 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num="236">$236.00 </TD><TD class=xl28 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num="235">$235.00 </TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>Winter</TD><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">235/45/17</TD><TD class=xl28 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num="0">$0.00 </TD><TD class=xl28 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num="0">$0.00 </TD><TD class=xl28 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num="0">$0.00 </TD><TD class=xl28 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num="149">$149.00 </TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17></TD><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"></TD><TD class=xl28 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; 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BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"></TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"></TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"></TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17></TD><TD class=xl33 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #c8cdc5; mso-ignore: colspan" colSpan=3>Staggered summer with dedicated winter wheels</TD><TD class=xl34 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #c8cdc5"></TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"></TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17></TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">2F & 2R</TD><TD class=xl29 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num="1034" x:fmla="=(C2*2)+(C3*2)">$1,034.00</TD><TD class=xl29 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num="1030" x:fmla="=(D2*2)+(D3*2)">$1,030.00</TD><TD class=xl29 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num="902" x:fmla="=(E2*2)+(E3*2)">$902.00</TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"></TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15pt" height=20><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=20></TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">4 Winter</TD><TD class=xl30 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num="596" x:fmla="=F4*4">$596.00</TD><TD class=xl30 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num="596" x:fmla="=F4*4">$596.00</TD><TD class=xl30 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num="596" x:fmla="=F4*4">$596.00</TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"></TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17></TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"></TD><TD class=xl31 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num="1630" x:fmla="=SUM(C10:C11)">$1,630.00</TD><TD class=xl31 title="Big Grin" style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" alt="" x:num="1626" x:fmla="=SUM(D10:D$1,626.00</TD><TD class=xl31 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num="1498" x:fmla="=SUM(E10:E11)">$1,498.00</TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"></TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15pt" height=20><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=20></TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">Winter wheels</TD><TD class=xl30 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num="700">$700.00</TD><TD class=xl30 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num="700">$700.00</TD><TD class=xl30 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num="700">$700.00</TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"></TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17></TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"></TD><TD class=xl31 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num="2330" x:fmla="=SUM(C12:C13)">$2,330.00</TD><TD class=xl31 title="Big Grin" style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" alt="" x:num="2326" x:fmla="=SUM(D12:D$2,326.00</TD><TD class=xl31 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num="2198" x:fmla="=SUM(E12:E13)">$2,198.00</TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"></TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17></TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"></TD><TD class=xl31 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"></TD><TD class=xl31 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"></TD><TD class=xl31 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"></TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"></TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17></TD><TD class=xl33 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #c8cdc5; mso-ignore: colspan" colSpan=3>Rears in summer / fronts in winter</TD><TD class=xl35 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #c8cdc5"></TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"></TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17></TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">4 R Summer</TD><TD class=xl29 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num="1140" x:fmla="=C3*4">$1,140.00</TD><TD class=xl29 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num="1172" x:fmla="=D3*4">$1,172.00</TD><TD class=xl29 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num="944" x:fmla="=E3*4">$944.00</TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"></TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15pt" height=20><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 15pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=20></TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; 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bootmiser -- I personally run a staggered setup using OEM 17'' rims (style 66M parallel spoke) and dedicated winter snow tires (Bridgestone Blizzak LM-22). Here are the exact specs and part numbers:

BMW Style 66M, Mixed Parallel Spoke rims, 17'’ x 8'’ front (part no. 36 11 2 228 995) and rear in 17'’ x 9'’ (part no. 36 11 2 229 035) mounted with 235/45/HR-17 front and 255/40/HR-17 rear Bridgestone Blizzak LM-22 winter tires.

Perhaps I am not undertsanding your option 1 but it is my understanding that it is not recommended to run snow tires on only two wheels but rather to have them on all four wheels. If you have summer tires on just one set of tires it will create a dangerous disparity in traction and handling between the summer tires (grippy in higher temperatures but turning to rock in near freezing temps) and the winter tires (good grip in freezing conditions but less overall traction in higher ambient temps).

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Rcl4668 said:
Perhaps I am not undertsanding your option 1 but it is my understanding that it is not recommended to run snow tires on only two wheels but rather to have them on all four wheels. If you have summer tires on just one set of tires it will create a dangerous disparity in traction and handling between the summer tires (grippy in higher temperatures but turning to rock in near freezing temps) and the winter tires (good grip in freezing conditions but less overall traction in higher ambient temps).

/Rich
Option 1 is to run all 4 snow tires on the front 8" rims. Then in the summer, run 4 summer tires on the 9.5" rear rims.

Based on this, I'm going to get the 17" replica wheels with Dunlop snow tires on 17" rims!
 

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Option 1 is to run all 4 snow tires on the front 8" rims. Then in the summer, run 4 summer tires on the 9.5" rear rims.

I'm going to get the 17" replica wheels with Sunlop snow tires...dedicated for snow!
Boostmiser -- oops sorry I misunderstood you. Your setup sounds good.

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By comparison, Dinan's recommendation for wheels and tires are as follows from their website:

Lightweight Forged Performance Wheels
Front: 18 x 9” (17.5 lbs.); 275/35-18 Tires
Rear: 18 x 9.5” (18 lbs.); 285/35-18 Tires
As a result, it may be necessary to modify the wheel well and/or fender lip if the selected tire size differs substantially from the specific manufacturers’ tire models tested by Dinan.

So taking into consideration their disclaimer for fender clearance (and by all means, Dinan is not the final authority on wheels and tires but a good "conservative" starting point ouich ):

Option 1 would be a good choice but check your fender clearance and you would be staying with OEM equipment.

Option 2 may be the better choice because it would be more cost effective (ie: cheaper, if that was your concern).

In all, I believe both options were taken by many owners here and reported to have worked very well.

In my own case, I went with 18x9 wheels mounted with 245/40/18 tires per tirerack.com's recommendation.

The main concern I decided on was having the snow tires for winter driving and that in itself made a day and night difference in driving and safety.

Besides, the snow tires only stay my on Beast from late November to late February here in the Northeast winter.
 

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It may be cheaper to buy only two rims and swap winter vs summer tires on them but the more times tires are replaced on rims, the more chance they'll be scratched. Plus it is so much quicker/easier to swap the tires if already mounted once winter comes. I have 17 inch rims for track tires. If I lived up north, I'd put winter tires on the 17s. It wouldn't be so bad if they are scratched when switching track tires to winter tires. The staggered setup will help acceleration traction but may compromise their ability to run in deep snow (so I've heard since I've never driven the M5 in snow on winter tires).
 

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I ordered the following on Friday:
Tire Rack - (4) Dunlop Winter Sport M3
WheelExchange - (4) Style 66 replica wheels
I am now officially set for the winter...and with my luck, we'll have no snow this year zzzzz
 

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boostmiser said:
I ordered the following on Friday:
Tire Rack - (4) Dunlop Winter Sport M3
WheelExchange - (4) Style 66 replica wheels
I am now officially set for the winter...and with my luck, we'll have no snow this year zzzzz
Great choice on the tires. That is what I am gonna get as well. Is 18" not good in the winter ? I was just wondering seeing that most do 17"
 

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...and with my luck, we'll have no snow this year zzzzz
Better safe than sorry.
 

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.......Is 18" not good in the winter ? I was just wondering seeing that most do 17"[/b]
I've used 18" snow tires with no problems or getting stuck at all even though the OEM spec is 235/45/17 tire on 8x17 wheel.

I use 245/40/18 snow tires on 9x18 wheels all around based on tirerack.com's recommendation and availablity at the time when I purchased my set.

They main issue whether you use 17" or 18" snow tires on an M5 is that you DO for safety and drivablity more than the arguement that a 17" snow tire will afford more tire pressure on the contact patch then the 18".

You're definitely not going to get anywhere with the summer only tires. Just the sight of snow let alone a bad weather report and your stuck in your tracks.
 

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I've used 18" snow tires with no problems or getting stuck at all even though the OEM spec is 235/45/17 tire on 8x17 wheel.

I use 245/40/18 snow tires on 9x18 wheels all around based on tirerack.com's recommendation and availablity at the time when I purchased my set.

They main issue whether you use 17" or 18" snow tires on an M5 is that you DO for safety and drivablity more than the arguement that a 17" snow tire will afford more tire pressure on the contact patch then the 18".

You're definitely not going to get anywhere with the summer only tires. Just the sight of snow let alone a bad weather report and your stuck in your tracks.
So is putting winter tires on the stock which is 275/35/18 (R) and 245/40/18(F) is not a good idea ?

Seeing that the surface is spread out wider and does not apply the pressure of a 17inch, is that right ?
 

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boostmiser said:
I ordered the following on Friday:
Tire Rack - (4) Dunlop Winter Sport M3
WheelExchange - (4) Style 66 replica wheels
I am now officially set for the winter...and with my luck, we'll have no snow this year zzzzz
Unfortunately, thats usually how it goes:rolleyes:
 

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Go for taller , skinnier tires. I'm running 17/45/235s all around for the winter. Take a look at what the WRC cars run and you'll get an idea about how the snow/ice setup works. Mine are on from the first snow ( Oct 31 last year) until the Park City Mountain Resort closes (April 15) and I have a blast all winter!! Enjoy!!!!
 

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So is putting winter tires on the stock which is 275/35/18 (R) and 245/40/18(F) is not a good idea ?

Seeing that the surface is spread out wider and does not apply the pressure of a 17inch, is that right ?
It was not a good idea thru last year because the largest snow tire size was 265/35/18. This year there is a 275/35/18 snow tire size available. So theoretically, you can now mount the stock tire sizes on your OEM wheels.

Correct in 17" vs. 18"
 

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Go for taller , skinnier tires. I'm running 17/45/235s all around for the winter. Take a look at what the WRC cars run and you'll get an idea about how the snow/ice setup works. Mine are on from the first snow ( Oct 31 last year) until the Park City Mountain Resort closes (April 15) and I have a blast all winter!! Enjoy!!!!
Alright fess up, which one of you Beast owners drive your Beast like WRC cars in the winter? :M5launch:
 

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It was not a good idea thru last year because the largest snow tire size was 265/35/18. This year there is a 275/35/18 snow tire size available. So theoretically, you can now mount the stock tire sizes on your OEM wheels.

Correct in 17" vs. 18"
This is good to know thanks. It also makes for a cheaper setup for a combo rather than what I was initially planning on buying the 275 setup for the rear to fit on stock.

I guess the look isn't all that important in the winter just effectiveness.

Thanks.
 

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i dunno about other options, but with 17' -8' tires all around with dunlop wintersport rubber in chicago i have felt more comfortable than any previous car i've owned. Additionally the dunlops are one of the best performing dry pavement snow tires.

The wider rear tire will tend to push snow rather than shoot it sideways, making it slippery.
 

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......The wider rear tire will tend to push snow rather than shoot it sideways, making it slippery.
I think that was true with an asymmetrical tread pattern.

The directional tread patterns of the Dunlop Winter Sport M3 should prevent that. Otherwise, why would Dunlop produce this winter tire in the 275/35/18 size?

Also I think there a plenty owners here that wanted to mount OEM sizes just to maintain the staggered set-up even on snow tires.

Lastly, I think some restraint is in order when driving during winter and I trust most owners here will not drive over their head. (PCUT: I'll include you in this group :cool: )
 

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