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Its that time again so I figured lets ask for some insight.

Mine is a Jet Black 2003, so I am wondering if the Zymol previously used on my Estoril blue M3 will bring out the same type of shine and finish.

The plans are as follows

- Zymol HD Cleanse
- Either Zymol or PS21

Any opinions, my previous experience with PS21 on black cars has been very good!

Any comments or alternative suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks
 

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PITA PITA PITA

Black.......hard to detail RIGHT.

Be very aware of filling the swirls. What do I mean by this? As you well know Black is a swirl heaven. You can make it look awsome with any list of swirl removers, glaze, polish and wax. BUT and I mean BUT.....after a wash or two the swirls tend to show back up unless it is done right.

I had a profesional detail my paint after fighting it for a few weeks. Keep in mind I NEVER let someone else do it. I have more products and pads/microfiber/PC buffer stuff etc. than most Checker Autoparts places. And I even told him....I want a refund if the swirls show up after a few washes. "Oh, it will be perfect was his response." After 2 washes I got my refund.

All manufacturers paint is different. I had a Black Porsche and used my PC random orbital along with Griots Garage 1 thru 3 compounds and it was like glass. It stayed that way too, as I dryed the car with my leaf blower thus not really ever touching the surface again with a scratchy rag.

This M paint is a pain in the ***. My guess is that this is because of the realitvly thick clear coat on my car.

So I dug back deeper into another favorite board
AUTOPIA . Now these guys are ANAL I thought I was bad........they are worse.....in a good way.

I just purchased and recieved a full flight of the PoorBoys products. I am going to try them this weekend. And although my paint is not bad now (after spending a lot of time fixing the swirls put in by the Pro) I want it better.

I guess what I have found to be key is the right product for your paint and color along with the right tools. The PC is in-valuable as well as having the right pads. This means cutting/polish and finish pads etc.

One thing I found on Autopia this time was a reference to working the same product in with a stiffer then softer pad. Not nessisarily going: stiff pad-heavy compund then medium pad-medium compound and then to soft pad-light compound. I took my lighter compound and used a stiffer pad then hit it again with the same compound and a softer pad. It really worked!

I will post a review later this weekend.

Hope that helps as I am not professional....just anal about my car's appearence.
 

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i was always very happy with zymol carbon on my black bmws, 95 318 and 98 528. zymol made them look very good, but doesn't last too long. Never used p21s, but do also like the Zaino products.

then again, you could always NuFinish it and call it done for a year! :7:
 

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The Zymol works well on the Jet Black paint. Tmw is expected to be very warm though, so be forewarned about some hazing issues with either carnuaba you decide to use. For some examples of the Zymol on the black Ms, check out my gallery at http://www.automotivespecialist.net/as-bmw.html . Hope this helps.
 

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Hello!
Did you see the thread on Zymol Antlantique???? I would also strongly encourage you to visit www.zymol.com and go to the section on application F.A.Q's, its on the front homepage. Anyway, its very informitive.
I spoke with a Zymol rep thru the web site the other day and he strongly discouraged inter-mixing zymol with other products. Company tactic to get you to use only there stuff??? I don't know, but the results speak for themself!! You can purchase the starter kit with the Atlantique wax in it for $150 us, a normal can is $830!!!!!!! ouich The web site also talks about swirl marks their origins, why not to use buffers and so on. :blabla: :typing: Good luck with the project, I will be getting the starter kit this week and giving it a go later. I will post pics, if it looks good!!! :D Later!!! :flag:
 

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Well I went with the Zymol Cleanse and Zymol wax same as I used to on the M3. Great results, and if I ever figure out how to post pictures I'll share.

I have to say that using Zymol products I always get a very high quality result!
 

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All I have used for five years has been the Zymol line and have never had any problems. While I would not mix the product with other waxes or sealants, it can be used in conjunction over another pre cleanser, etc. It is a little more timely to apply, but the Zymol provides great results with regards to depth of color and shine, especially the higher end glazes.
 
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