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My Valentine One really earned its keep today. I thought I'd post my story because I know how much Gustav enjoys them!

My family and I drove from Monterey up to Los Gatos, California today for a birthday party. Naturally, we took the E39 M5, which is my preferred car for any drive of more than 20 miles! On the way back, we took Rt 17 over the coast range (fun driving) and merged on to Route 1 southbound. We passed through Moss Landing where Rt 1 becomes single lane in each direction.

As soon as Rt 1 widened again to double-lane (just south of Moss Landing), I took the left lane and resumed normal cruising speed (85-90 mph). I passed a green Passat and he fell in behind, attempting to pace me. Maybe he saw my V1, which I have hardwired into my M5.

Pretty soon, my V1 began to alert that a Ka-band radar was active ahead. Knowing that the California Highway Patrol uses Ka-band radar, I immediately slowed and moved into the right lane. The Passat behind me saw his opportunity and accelerated to pass me. Evidently he didn't see the CHP trooper parked on the side of the road until it was too late. The unit pulled out right ahead of me and nailed the little Passat immediately.

I almost felt sorry for him. I can imagine his conversation with the trooper: "But sir, that black BMW just flew by me, why didn't you stop him . . . . !" My wife was impressed and I doubt she'll ever question the value of the V1 again! :haha:

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Thats what I like to hear. Nice V1 save - Don't count on that thing though, it can get you in some serious trouble :biggrin:
 

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There is not a day goes by that the V1 saves me from the brown shirts in AZ.
 

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After purchasing a V1 just a few days ago, it is very comforting to hear stories such as this.

However, I know that it cant work all the time. what are the situations that one must not fully rely on the V1?
 

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akiramats1 said:
After purchasing a V1 just a few days ago, it is very comforting to hear stories such as this.

However, I know that it cant work all the time. what are the situations that one must not fully rely on the V1?
It works best when law enforcement is lazy and just runs their speed measuring device. Laser is usually toughest, as it is quick. Arrows certainly help for multiple encounters at once.

I still say drive intelligently. Let some one else lead, if car ahead hits brakes for no apparent reason, slow down and check it out.

When going past intersections that are raised, I assume the median down the hill is a good place for law enforcement, so I am also careful there.

If I see white lines on the road, slow down, there is air survellience.

V1 is still the best out there IMHO, but you need to use a little common sense to help it out.
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I have found here in norhtern AZ. thre following measures have kept me free of speeding tickets and out of jail:

1. ALWAYS follow a rabbit. Better he gets the ticket than you.
2. ALWAYS use your mirrors. They ticket more people on our highways by pacing the speeder than by using radar. The charges always sticks in court too.
3. They like to hide on the freeway entrance ramps here. They generally don't have their radar units on. They observe the speeder then merge onto the highway and pace you a mile or tow before they come in for the kill.
4. Watch for them over steep hills in the median. This is a good place for them to use instant on radar. That is why having a rabbitt in front is always preferred.

Best offense is a solid defense.
Speed smartly.
 

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You guys are dead on. Unfortunately, I have not yet picked up a V1 even though I've had my M5 for over a year - but smart driving has meant no tickets in that time frame. Something that works for me is to keep an eye on the cars in any lane in front of you as you start up a hill, you'd be amazed how many people hit their brake lights even if they aren't speeding when a cop is on the other side. I watch for brake lights with the pack about 10 car lengths ahead of me...it has saved me more than once.

I really need that V1, though! :M5thumbs:
 

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akiramats1 said:
However, I know that it cant work all the time. what are the situations that one must not fully rely on the V1?
Laser is the V1's biggest weakness, and unfortunately nothing can be done for that, except to buy a laser jammer. Instant-on radar is better because if someone gets hit ahead, it scatters pretty well and the V1 can pick it up, but laser is almost impossible.

On top of what everyone said, the best way to avoid a ticket (and still drive the way you want) is to keep your eyes open and scan BOTH shoulders and oncoming traffic. Be weary of coming over crests of hills, and DEFINITELY watch for brake lights ahead (like Stoner said).. it's a natural reflex to touch the brakes, even if someone is already stopped.

I can't stand following anyone (some sort of ego thing, I guess.. but if I have 400 HP I don't like to be behind anyone) and I also don't like being followed (brings more attention) so that makes me even that much more perceptive to what's going on around. Except for my two laser tickets before I got my lidatek laser jammer installed, the V1 has been just fine.
 

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same here. mine has paid for its self about 100000 times now. You know they work when your friend want to barrow one. I think i have let 10 people use it on trips. 8 of them now own one.

I need to get a new one mine does not have that pop and lard they are starting to use. Some one said they will upgrade them for free but i have not called to see.
 

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I paid approx. $50.00 per unit (I own three) to have the POP detection upgrade installed.
What is lard?
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Kerr said:
same here. mine has paid for its self about 100000 times now. You know they work when your friend want to barrow one. I think i have let 10 people use it on trips. 8 of them now own one.

I need to get a new one mine does not have that pop and lard they are starting to use. Some one said they will upgrade them for free but i have not called to see.
 

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What is lard?
Regards,
Animal fat- used for cooking.


Or Lord, maybe?

Borrow=barrow



A


PS The valentine one website has a feature where you enter your serial number and they will instantly quote the upgrade price, IIRC
 

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I got hit with laser last weekend and my k40 with laser diffuser was silent but my escort was blarring like it was broken.

Might he have targeted the windshield rather than my missing front plate?
 

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If I see white lines on the road, slow down, there is air survellience.
What little white lines? I've seen signs on the side of the highway saying that speed is enforced by air, but how does that work? Do they time you between lines or something? How do they ticket if they find a car speeding?

Anyone know about this?
 

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What little white lines? I've seen signs on the side of the highway saying that speed is enforced by air, but how does that work? Do they time you between lines or something? How do they ticket if they find a car speeding?
Yep, there's marks painted by the side of the road that represent known measured distances, they just time you through the 'measured mile' or whatever and then the nice timing official at the end comes out of the bushes and gives you your paperwork.
 

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Ridgeback_Pilot said:
My Valentine One really earned its keep today. I thought I'd post my story because I know how much Gustav enjoys them!

My family and I drove from Monterey up to Los Gatos, California today for a birthday party. Naturally, we took the E39 M5, which is my preferred car for any drive of more than 20 miles! On the way back, we took Rt 17 over the coast range (fun driving) and merged on to Route 1 southbound. We passed through Moss Landing where Rt 1 becomes single lane in each direction.

As soon as Rt 1 widened again to double-lane (just south of Moss Landing), I took the left lane and resumed normal cruising speed (85-90 mph). I passed a green Passat and he fell in behind, attempting to pace me. Maybe he saw my V1, which I have hardwired into my M5.

Pretty soon, my V1 began to alert that a Ka-band radar was active ahead. Knowing that the California Highway Patrol uses Ka-band radar, I immediately slowed and moved into the right lane. The Passat behind me saw his opportunity and accelerated to pass me. Evidently he didn't see the CHP trooper parked on the side of the road until it was too late. The unit pulled out right ahead of me and nailed the little Passat immediately.

I almost felt sorry for him. I can imagine his conversation with the trooper: "But sir, that black BMW just flew by me, why didn't you stop him . . . . !" My wife was impressed and I doubt she'll ever question the value of the V1 again! :haha:

Mike
Great story-thanks for sharing!
 

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Yep, there's marks painted by the side of the road that represent known measured distances, they just time you through the 'measured mile' or whatever and then the nice timing official at the end comes out of the bushes and gives you your paperwork.
I am to understand that even from the air a traffic cop must "pace" your vehicle by matching the speed of their aircraft to the speed of your car. To simply time you between two marks on the road would be an illegal "speed trap".

So the pilot matches his speed with yours - and times HIS time between the marks. Yeah, sure. Anyway that's the loophole they are supposed to perform.

Paul

P.S. - those Cessnas they fly wont do much more than 140 MPH, even less if you are driving into the wind :M5launch:
 

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I am to understand that even from the air a traffic cop must "pace" your vehicle by matching the speed of their aircraft to the speed of your car. To simply time you between two marks on the road would be an illegal "speed trap".

So the pilot matches his speed with yours - and times HIS time between the marks. Yeah, sure. Anyway that's the loophole they are supposed to perform.

Paul

P.S. - those Cessnas they fly wont do much more than 140 MPH, even less if you are driving into the wind :M5launch:
Can't speak to California law, but that is INCORRECT in Florida. Here, there are lines painted across the roadway (think goal lines!). As others have pointed out, they are a known distance apart. When a car is timed between 2 lines over a known distance, a speed can be computed. Most officers in airplanes use nothing fancier than stopwatches!! No pacing required, they call it out to the road officer below and identify your vehicle. They usually confirm it again as you are picked up by the ground officer getting behind you.
There are minor requirements to insure accuracy of the stopwatch, and most officers allow a little leeway in speed to account for being slightly off on the timing (they typically time from the front of the car on the first line to the rear of the car crossing the second line, which will lower the speed by giving you a little extra time through the speed zone). As long as both officers show up in court, you usually lose!!!
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pkarmouche said:
I am to understand that even from the air a traffic cop must "pace" your vehicle by matching the speed of their aircraft to the speed of your car. To simply time you between two marks on the road would be an illegal "speed trap".

So the pilot matches his speed with yours - and times HIS time between the marks. Yeah, sure. Anyway that's the loophole they are supposed to perform.

Paul

P.S. - those Cessnas they fly wont do much more than 140 MPH, even less if you are driving into the wind :M5launch:
I also live in California. I am not an expert on this, but....:confused2

Conceptually it seems like it would be difficult for an aircraft to know the speed of a car on the ground. All of the instruments are in Knots (so you'd have to do the conversion), plus you have the variables of head/tail winds above the surface. And if the pilot is measuring his time between the marks, it also would be hard to take an exact measurement. I guess he might have a surface on the plane and measure the time it takes for that surface to pass between the lines. It seems more likely to just measure the time for the driver to travel between the lines.
 

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Laser jammers about to become illegal

In about 120 days a law just signed in NY becomes active that makes any device that interferes with law enforcement of speed limits illegal. Thats your laser jammer... I dont know what the penalty is. Don't think this will happen in your state- dont be too sure. Once one does it- the others will copy it.

I will add to the above good advice, sometimes you cant follow a rabbit as they are just too slow so being in a sedan that can perform like a sports car is a good defense in itself. In the situation that you are alone or in the lead, make sure to keep it under triple digits.
 

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You guys are dead on. Unfortunately, I have not yet picked up a V1 even though I've had my M5 for over a year - but smart driving has meant no tickets in that time frame. Something that works for me is to keep an eye on the cars in any lane in front of you as you start up a hill, you'd be amazed how many people hit their brake lights even if they aren't speeding when a cop is on the other side. I watch for brake lights with the pack about 10 car lengths ahead of me...it has saved me more than once.

I really need that V1, though! :M5thumbs:
Yes you really do need to get one here. I get quite a few radar hits in and around town as well as when the freeways open up.

I cannot begin to tell you the number of tickets I have avoided over the last 5 years with the M5 and the V1. These should go together right off the dealers lot.

Mike - Good story about the V1. I know right where you are talking about and I am sure the police get more than there share of offenders there. If your ever caught in traffic going over the 17 you normally can't wait for it to open up on the 1.

I love having the "rabbits" around.

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