Yeah, I have to agree with Bill. The regular Tubi is plenty loud for my tastes. This ain't no Corvette. It starts out with you thinking, is that all there is? This is what I paid $2k for? Then after a few thousand miles, it gets louder. Right now, I think it's perfect. I can hear it, but it's never intrusive. But everyone has their own tastes. The guys on the M3 board like exhausts so loud they're like race exhausts. But a lot of people on this board don't like them that loud.