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Spotted but not identified + the rest

DAYTONA VOILET M5



I've sat in this car and tried to introduce buyers to the owner twice.

I can't identify this M5 without pulling the ECU or looking at the engine number which I didn't have permission to do.

It's in Jakarta ... somewhere.

A bit rough around the edges , 80 to 100k kms (I forget) , having some cooling problems.

No further comment.

AVUS BLUE M5 FOR SALE - 2012

This car has changed color a number of times , Taffy will be able to figure out which M5 this is.

M5's OUTSIDE OF JAKARTA

We believe there are another 3 or 4 E34 M5s somewhere in Java and at least 1 maybe 2 or 3 in Sumatra.

E34 S38B38

Rumored there's one here , nobody really knows.
 

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Discussion Starter #22 (Edited)
All the Indonesian M5s have 90 litre fuel tanks and all the ones I've seen are CAT DELETE at the factory

They came to Indonesia when fuel was about 5 cents per litre (fuel now , 50 cents for 88 octane , $1.05 for 95 octane)
 

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I know there's lots on Indonesians reading the board , if you know anything about these cars or you own one of the M5s it would be great to hear from you.
 

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Coconut Versions of the M5 are typically

1. CAT Delete

2. Low compression engines to cope with the crappy fuel we get served with but still with 232 kW ? How does BMW pull that off ? What programming has been modified ?

3. Small dia 102mm dia fan pulleys to get the fans turning quicker

4. Pentil air valves on the cooling system for 0.5 bar air pressure over and above water pressure.

5. I remember reading that more air is directed toward the centre dashboard vent on the air cond system

6. 90 litre fuel tanks

7. Climate control systems
 

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GA25327 , yet another Coconut (Tropical) version, and the options are IDENTICAL to my M5 GA25324 including the full Nappa interior.

I have no information on this car and whereabouts unknown.

Taffy is this the ex Singapore car that turned up in Sumatra last year , I lost the photos when my phone crashed so I can't confirm.

Vehicle information
Type Value
VIN WBSHD92070GA25327
Type code HD92
Type M5 (EUR)
E series E34 ()
Series 5
Type LIM
Steering RL
Doors 4
Engine S38
Displacement 3.60
Power 232
Drive HECK
Transmission MECH
Colour MACAOBLAU METALLIC (250)
Upholstery (9990)
Prod.date 1990-10-22
Options Code Description (interface) Description (EPC)
S199A AUSSTATTUNG BLEIHALTIGER KRAFTSTOFF without catalytic converter
S302A ALARMANLAGE Alarm system
S401A SCHIEBE-HEBEDACH, ELEKTRISCH Lift-up-and-slide-back sunroof, electric
S430A INNEN-/AUSSENSPIEGEL AUT.ABBLENDEND Interior/outside mirror with auto dip
S459A SITZVERSTELLUNG, ELEKTR.MIT MEMORY Seat adjustment, electric, with memory
S500A SCHEINW.WASCHANL./INTENSIVREINIGUNG Headl.washer system/intensive cleaning
S534A KLIMAAUTOMATIK Automatic air conditioning
S548A KILOMETERTACHO Kilometre speedo
S560A LESELEUCHTEN IM FOND Reading light in rear compartment
S687A RADIOVORBEREITUNG Radio preparation
S781A LM Rad 9Jx17 auf Hinterachse BMW LA wheel M Kontur
S818A BATTERIEHAUPTSCHALTER Battery master switch
S823A HEISSLAND-AUSFUEHRUNG Hot-climate version
S850A ZUSAETZL. TANKFUELLUNG EXPORT Additional Export tank filling
S925A VERSANDSCHUTZPAKET Dispatch protection pack
Individual vehicle data
Text
Z1XX Special upholstery
= Innenausstattung in Komplettleder Walk-Nappa schwarz,
wie Schl.Nr. 0330
(Bereitstellung Schalttafel-Oberteil durch ZS-411)
Yes Correct.
25327 with acid VIN delete on the last digit.
When I saw the car it had cloth interior which is quite nice
 

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UPDATE + CORRECTION TO ///M Registry

Previously I reported that I thought my spare engine came from an Australian delivered E34 M5 GA25374 based on the engine number.

I have a friend in BMW who does me occasional favors, he's reasonably senior in the company and very busy so I don't ask him often.

Anyway he checked on the Asian database to try and match the engine number on my spare S38 to a chassis number and there was no data on the BMW Asia system so he put a request into BMW Munich , this was the response.

Hi Tony,
Your spare engine was originally fitted to E34 M5 chassis number GA25349, production date Nov 1990. This car was originally delivered to BMW UK.
So my spare engine is out of GA25349 , spec as follows

Vehicle information
Type
Value
VIN WBSHD92060GA25349
Type code HD92
Type M5 (EUR)
E series E34 ()
Series 5
Type LIM
Steering RL
Doors 4
Engine S38
Displacement 3.60
Power 232
Drive HECK
Transmission MECH
Colour MACAOBLAU METALLIC (250)
Upholstery (0312)
Prod.date 1990-11-13

Options
Code Description (interface) Description (EPC)
S199A AUSSTATTUNG BLEIHALTIGER KRAFTSTOFF without catalytic converter
S302A ALARMANLAGE Alarm system
S303A INNENRAUMSCHUTZ/NEIGUNGSALARMG BURGLAR AL. WITH TILT ALARM SENSOR
S320A MODELLSCHRIFTZUG ENTFALL Deleted, model lettering
S325A HECKSPOILER Rear spoiler
S339A SHADOW LINE Shadow-Line
S354A GRUENKEIL-FRONTSCHEIBE Windscreen, green-tinted upper strip
S401A SCHIEBE-HEBEDACH, ELEKTRISCH Lift-up-and-slide-back sunroof, electric
S415A SONNENSCHUTZROLLO FUER HECKSCHEIBE Sun-blind, rear
S430A INNEN-/AUSSENSPIEGEL AUT.ABBLENDEND Interior/outside mirror with auto dip
S458A SITZVERSTELLUNG ELEKTR.FAHRER/BEIF. Electr. front seat adjustment
S500A SCHEINW.WASCHANL./INTENSIVREINIGUNG Headl.washer system/intensive cleaning
S530A KLIMAANLAGE Air conditioning
S540A GESCHWINDIGKEITSREGELUNG Cruise control
S560A LESELEUCHTEN IM FOND Reading light in rear compartment
Code
Description (interface) Description (EPC)
S571A STAERKERE STROMVERSORGUNG PLUS Reinforced power supply
S655A BMW BAVARIA C BUSINESS Radio Bavaria C business
S676A HIFI LAUTSPRECHERSYSTEM HiFi speaker system
S786A M TECHNIC FOND-SITZANLAGE Measures, 17" wheels
S847A erweiterter Kabelbaum Auxiliary battery f. C-Network telephone
S850A ZUSAETZL. TANKFUELLUNG EXPORT Additional Export tank filling
S925A VERSANDSCHUTZPAKET Dispatch protection pack
So the ///M Registry needs the entry for GA25374 to be put back in Australia I guess and GA25349 to be listed as Indonesia and listed as 'wrecked' , we don't know the whereabouts of this M5 and looking at the condition of the engine I doubt it was running.
 

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GA25349

GA25349 Macaoblau met. 1990-11-13
GA25349 is location unknown in the ///M Registry

So it ended up in Indonesia somehow , condition and whereabouts unknown , since I have the engine I presume it's been wrecked.
 

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GA25388 a.k.a 'EuroTra$h'

Sitting in a Jakarta spare parts / car yard parking lot for sale for 9 years , still not sold.

Damaged transmission and in terrible condition sitting in the rain and sun for 9 years (I have christened this M5 'Eurotrash') it will cost a small fortune to bring back into good order.

This WAS a beautiful M5 before it was left to rot in the sun, rain and humidity.

We've been trying to buy it and the price keeps going up to insulting levels, no wonder it's been sitting there 9 years. Perfect parts car for some certain M5 owners we know well.

Vehicle information
Type Value
VIN WBSHD92050GA25388
Type code HD92
Type M5 (EUR)
E series E34 ()
Series 5
Type LIM
Steering RL
Doors 4
Engine S38
Displacement 3.60
Power 232
Drive HECK
Transmission MECH
Colour SCHWARZ 2 (668)
Upholstery (0417)
Prod.date 1991-01-08
Options
Code Description (interface) Description (EPC)
S199A AUSSTATTUNG BLEIHALTIGER KRAFTSTOFF without catalytic converter
S302A ALARMANLAGE Alarm system
S303A INNENRAUMSCHUTZ/NEIGUNGSALARMG BURGLAR AL. WITH TILT ALARM SENSOR
S325A HECKSPOILER Rear spoiler
S354A GRUENKEIL-FRONTSCHEIBE Green windscreen, green shade band
S401A SCHIEBE-HEBEDACH, ELEKTRISCH Lift-up-and-slide-back sunroof, electric
S416A SONNENSCHUTZROLLOS Roller sun vizor, rear lateral
S430A INNEN-/AUSSENSPIEGEL AUT.ABBLENDEND Interior/outside mirror with auto dip
S459A SITZVERSTELLUNG, ELEKTR.MIT MEMORY Seat adjuster, electric, with memory
S500A SCHEINW.WASCHANL./INTENSIVREINIGUNG Headlight wipe/wash/Intensive cleaning
S534A KLIMAAUTOMATIK Automatic air conditioning
S560A LESELEUCHTEN IM FOND Reading light in rear compartment
S571A STAERKERE STROMVERSORGUNG PLUS Reinforced power supply
S676A HIFI LAUTSPRECHERSYSTEM HiFi speaker system
S687A RADIOVORBEREITUNG Radio preparation
Code Description (interface) Description (EPC)
S781A LM Rad 9Jx17 auf Hinterachse BMW LA wheel M Kontur
S786A M TECHNIC FOND-SITZANLAGE Action pack for 17" wheels
S850A ZUSAETZL. TANKFUELLUNG EXPORT Additional Export tank filling
S925A VERSANDSCHUTZPAKET Transport protection package












Too far gone to restore economically at the asking price which is now about half the price of a good condition running M5 , the whole car is a mess.

This car has an 'acid VIN' , our code for a car that's had last digit of it's VIN number erased for whatever reason.

To read the last number of the VIN I had to take a photograph , enlarge the photograph and then make a negative version of the pic to read the digit which has almost been erased.
Taffy and I finally ended up buying this M5 yesterday, one odd thing is it's supposedly a Euro version but it has a MPH speedometer so perhaps it's been replaced at some time.
 

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Yeah, I agree with you Tony. That is the most likely one.

If not, then it must be one of these three. They are all "hot country" exports. All other Schwarz 2 are accounted for except 3 and they are UK and Australia versions, so they would never have been allowed to register.

GA25243 Schwarz II 1990-07-04 - SCHWARZ VOLLEDER (0318)
GA25287 Schwarz II 1990-09-10 - CHAMPAGNER VOLLEDER (0312)
GA25386 Schwarz II 1990-12-20 - ANTHRAZIT STOFF (0313)
 
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