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01, 28k original miles, at a local dealer. Carfax below.

Since this is at a BMW dealer, can I "demand" a PPI done by them to show any issues which should be addressed before purchase? What "suggestions" do you guys have for me? I know I need to see the service history and test drive :)

I've owned 5 E46, this will be my first M5

Going Tues AM, I'm pretty excited lovelove

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Germany
and imported to
Charleston, SC
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Kenosha, WI
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Title or registration issued
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Registered as
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Inspection Station
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Motor Vehicle Dept.
Kenosha, WI
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Motor Vehicle Dept.
Kenosha, WI
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Motor Vehicle Dept.
Kenosha, WI
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Motor Vehicle Dept.
Royal Oak, MI
Title #172V1410211
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One view would be that if this car has been with this dealer for 1yr, they will be highly motivated sellers. Another would be that "demanding" a PPI will get you exactly what you pay for it. You probably should read Ard's reply in "koolkat1973"'s post. Personally, I would get an independent PPI. Good luck.
 

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One view would be that if this car has been with this dealer for 1yr, they will be highly motivated sellers. Another would be that "demanding" a PPI will get you exactly what you pay for it. You probably should read Ard's reply in "koolkat1973"'s post. Personally, I would get an independent PPI. Good luck.
+1

I would expect the dealer to "overlook" things during a PPI to help his possible sale. We don't call them $tealers just to be contrary.
 

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So there is another BMW dealer across town. Would it make sense to take it to the "other dealer"? I guess as I type this that would make sense.

My original thought btw was for the dealer I'm buying it from to throw in the PPI.
 

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So there is another BMW dealer across town. Would it make sense to take it to the "other dealer"? I guess as I type this that would make sense.

My original thought btw was for the dealer I'm buying it from to throw in the PPI.
DON'T DO THIS PURCHASE ON THE CHEAP!

You'll be sorry, if you do.
 

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Well, all for naught... I drove the M5. The car was in excellent condition for an 01 (it was the GM's car). Drove as I expected, although a little less "growl" than the other one I drove. I'm going back and forth if I want to buy it or not in my mind...

Anyway, I drove the new E90 M3 sedan after and WOW :eek:oohhh::eek:oohhh::eek:oohhh::eek:oohhh: I'm sold. Absolutely amazing car. The engine noise and exhaust... I was blown away (and I've owned 2 E46 M3's).

So now I'm holding off for a new M3. I was blown away.
 
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