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Timmayfest 2010 review;

1. I need more help. I barely had a chance to enjoy myself. Now, those who helped, please don't take offense, I tried to do too much ON TOP of what you guys did for me.

2. I need to better organize the raffle. That was my fault for not being better prepared. Prizes weren't organized well, tickets sales were poor, really. that is why the same people kept winning.

3. Dinner Friday night was a train wreck. Not near enough seating. I really had NO CLUE who was going to show up. I planned for 35 and 60 showed up.

4. Saturday only next year, Sunday was a complete waste.

5. Should we change the name?

Add any other observations if you would please.
 

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?????fest 2011

1. Name change?

2. Location - I am considering trying to get a local drag strip as the venue. I am also thinking about doing a local fair ground as the venue but there would be no food. I would have to arrange for vendors to come and sell grubb. It also would cost money as last year's venue was free, in a way. QS & L was VERY hard to work with. The upside is CONSIDERABLY more room, power for the DJ and the Dyno if Eurocharged decides to come back, (PLEASE!) and the ease of planning for me. The fair grounds are also just a few miles form my house, which would make things WAY easier if someone needed something.

3. Friday nights are "Test and Tune" night at a local drag strip. Pay a fee and you can do as many runs as you want. We could do a mini meet there Friday night, do some runs, then have the real meet Saturday at the fair grounds?

4. Date - May or June?

5. Sponsors - We had a few late entries. I would rather have things squared away EARLY. It got REALLY crazy as the date grew closer.

6. Dinner Saturday night - I was very dissappointed with dinner, everyone was split up. I need to find a venue were everyone will be in the same area. Maybe rent a room for all of us.

7. Plan a breakfast Sunday for anyone that wants to join before departing. We could then take the opportunity to take some group pictures.

Thoughts?
 

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?????fest 2011

1. Name change?

2. Location - I am considering trying to get a local drag strip as the venue. I am also thinking about doing a local fair ground as the venue but there would be no food. I would have to arrange for vendors to come and sell grubb. It also would cost money as last year's venue was free, in a way. QS & L was VERY hard to work with. The upside is CONSIDERABLY more room, power for the DJ and the Dyno if Eurocharged decides to come back, (PLEASE!) and the ease of planning for me. The fair grounds are also just a few miles form my house, which would make things WAY easier if someone needed something.

3. Friday nights are "Test and Tune" night at a local drag strip. Pay a fee and you can do as many runs as you want. We could do a mini meet there Friday night, do some runs, then have the real meet Saturday at the fair grounds?

4. Date - May or June?

5. Sponsors - We had a few late entries. I would rather have things squared away EARLY. It got REALLY crazy as the date grew closer.

6. Dinner Saturday night - I was very dissappointed with dinner, everyone was split up. I need to find a venue were everyone will be in the same area. Maybe rent a room for all of us.

7. Plan a breakfast Sunday for anyone that wants to join before departing. We could then take the opportunity to take some group pictures.

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Good ideas, all. Here are some thoughts:

Beastfest as the name?

I think May is a great time.

I think commencing with a "test and tune" night at the drags, then having a function at the QS&L again, would work well. Alternatively, we could rent out a circle track on Saturday, then all go to dinner that night and breakfast the next morning. Or perhaps we could combine a "test and tune" Friday night with a DIY day at a local shop. Can you see where I'm going? I think hanging out and gawking at beasts and other cars is great, but I would prefer some activities that we can engage in, such as drag racing, circle track racing, dyno runs, detailing, or DIY mechancial work (somewhere with lifts). Perhaps we could even get some M5Board.com luminaries in the vendor world, such as Mike O'Neil of NortheastMotorsports or Jeff Howerton of Howerton Engineering or even...Steve DEEEENAAN.. to join us.

--Peter
 

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I know its far fro your house but we tossed the idea around last year of Mid-Ohio. Thoughts about reaching out to them?
 

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I know its far fro your house but we tossed the idea around last year of Mid-Ohio. Thoughts about reaching out to them?
We also could go to a different location. Watkins Glen one day, DIY day at Northeast Motorsports the day before? How about THAT for a combo! I guarantee you, we can arrange DIY day with Mike O'Neil, and Watkins Glen can't be that expensive to rent out for a half-day, say $5k? Divided up among all the people who want to run?

Just a few thoughts. Focusing on activities would distinguish the event from Mfest and similar events.

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Tim, you're so hard on yourself for no good reason.

Timmayfest was a great event and I know I speak for all when I say that.

Now, for next year, let me think on things besides more Eurocharged girls :biggrin:
 

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Mid Ohio was $10k+ to rent for a day........
 

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How far is the planned location from QS&L? The Hilton area is nice where wife and kid really didn't mind the meet as there was something for them as well...
 

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Timmay,

1. Timmayfest or Beastfest I think is fine, Tim you do so much work to get this thing together that I thought it was cool to have it called Timmayfest. However, Beastfest really describes the occasion

2. Since I was not there for 2010 I really don't have much information to provide

3. Some light DIY sessions, detailing instructions/sessions, and reputable vendors to sell their wares

4. The drag strip/ track sessions would be cool, however, I would imagine that it would be a good idea that anyone running the track should have previous track experience....would not some noob like me causing an accident:eek:h:

5. Perhaps the local BMWCCA chapter would be supportive to perhaps set up driving lessons and track time of course all of us chipping in payment

6. I also think getting BMWCCA involved might help with publicity and perhaps a Roundel article

7. If it is Timmayfest, then we should not have European women....they should be Latin women:biggrin:

Some of the BMWCCA suggestions maybe way out there, however you never know.

James
 

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Timmay,

1. Timmayfest or Beastfest I think is fine, Tim you do so much work to get this thing together that I thought it was cool to have it called Timmayfest. However, Beastfest really describes the occasion

2. Since I was not there for 2010 I really don't have much information to provide

3. Some light DIY sessions, detailing instructions/sessions, and reputable vendors to sell their wares

4. The drag strip/ track sessions would be cool, however, I would imagine that it would be a good idea that anyone running the track should have previous track experience....would not some noob like me causing an accident:eek:h:

5. Perhaps the local BMWCCA chapter would be supportive to perhaps set up driving lessons and track time of course all of us chipping in payment

6. I also think getting BMWCCA involved might help with publicity and perhaps a Roundel article

7. If it is Timmayfest, then we should not have European women....they should be Latin women:biggrin:

Some of the BMWCCA suggestions maybe way out there, however you never know.

James

I tried getting the local BMWCCA chapter involved last year, they wanted no part in it for some reason. I was just blown off when the subject came up.

I worry about having a "track day" or "drag day" as the event. I don't want to be repsonsible for someone crashing their car. We all hope it would never come to that, but if it did, that would really suck. That is why I like the idea of having a non-formal meet Friday night for "Test and Tune" at the local drag strip. That way THEY handle all of the release forms and legal crap. Then have a meet Saturday somewhere we decide. I do like Peter's idea of Watkins Glenn and NE Motorsports, but I could not head that project. I am no where near those locations.

I 2nd the idea of Latino women. Thank you Sir.
 

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Mid Ohio was $10k+ to rent for a day........
A little pricey, but not too bad. We'd have to get firm commitments from everyone before renting the track so we could know what the pro rata share would be. Tracks typically regulate themselves pretty tightly, even when rented out for the day, but if push comes to shove, I'm sure I can come up with the requisite releases and what have you for everyone to sign.

Let me run Watkins Glen to ground and see what I can find out (i.e., how much, with or without instructors, releases, other details). I have no doubt that I can reach agreement with Mike O'Neil essentially to rent out his shop and his advice for a few hours one night or for an afternoon. That being said, I really liked last year's name and format, too. The easiest route would be to go back to the QS&L for the event itself, but precede the event by going to the "track and tune" night at the drags the night before, then having multiple detailers/dyno operators/other activities at the "Fest" itself. I really like the idea of an activity the night before (drags or circle track) so we can all talk smack about the previous night's activities the next day at the Fest after having our beasts detailed. Wow. That sounds really great!

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Ya know Tim, 1st and foremost, Timmayfest was way awesome. The only thing that I would change would be the Sunday thing, breakfast I agree would be great then say our Goodbyes.
Personally not much on dragstrip as I dont believe in dragracing my car. I would however, be WAY IN on some type of circle track or similiar style track.
The problem with calling it "Beastfest" is, who are you going to try and attract? There were lots of other cars at the event that may have considered themselves "Beasts", but truly weren't :hihi:

As strange and as selfish as it may sound, please dont get me wrong, I REALLY dug hanging out with the E39 M5 Board guys @ Adam's house. Kinda korny I know, but that what it is all about to me. Got to meet new friends Jimmy, Josiah, Matt etc...who all have VERY similiar interests. This is gonna sound selfish as hell and limits our resources, sponsors etc...What about having another event, or 2 events a year where we can "Lease" out a garage w/lifts or similiar to hang out, wrench, tell lies, drink beer and run our cars (Not necessarily in that order) Or, as pricey as it may be, organize an event (piss on BMWCCA if not interested) at a real track complete with class, runs etc...May be a relocation from your house, cuz yer neighbors might get real pissed, never mind how mad Veronica may get...:nono:

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Ya know Tim, 1st and foremost, Timmayfest was way awesome. The only thing that I would change would be the Sunday thing, breakfast I agree would be great then say our Goodbyes.
Personally not much on dragstrip as I dont believe in dragracing my car. I would however, be WAY IN on some type of circle track or similiar style track.
The problem with calling it "Beastfest" is, who are you going to try and attract? There were lots of other cars at the event that may have considered themselves "Beasts", but truly weren't :hihi:

As strange and as selfish as it may sound, please dont get me wrong, I REALLY dug hanging out with the E39 M5 Board guys @ Adam's house. Kinda korny I know, but that what it is all about to me. Got to meet new friends Jimmy, Josiah, Matt etc...who all have VERY similiar interests. This is gonna sound selfish as hell and limits our resources, sponsors etc...What about having another event, or 2 events a year where we can "Lease" out a garage w/lifts or similiar to hang out, wrench, tell lies, drink beer and run our cars (Not necessarily in that order) Or, as pricey as it may be, organize an event (piss on BMWCCA if not interested) at a real track complete with class, runs etc...May be a relocation from your house, cuz yer neighbors might get real pissed, never mind how mad Veronica may get...:nono:

My 2 cents
Agree with all of this. If we could rent out a garage with a lift and a dyno for the weekend to use as a meeting place and playground. Wow! Kind of like Adam's garage on steroids, with enough room for the entire group. Now you got me going. What we need is...an empty warehouse adjacent to an adandoned airfield! We'll have a portable dyno in the warehouse and a couple of portable lifts and people can bring tools. Plenty of room to work on and run the cars, gawk and hang. We could even have a catered dinner in the warehouse. Don't know if such a place exists, but I'm on it. I'm going to find it. That would be perfect.

--Peter

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Steves thoughts were closer to what I was thinking.

Tim - Timmayfest2010 was a lot of fun, and I think the level of work vs the result is what you are more concerned with as opposed to thinking it was a bad fest....at least that is what I'm getting out of your first couple of posts.

I like track events, but you miss out on a lot of the interaction with other owners, basically, thats all we did last year, interact with others. Thats why we talk so fondly of our time there. I've never ran at a circle track, nor have I ever dragged my beast (although I probably will at some point). so If the entire event was track oriented (like the national BMWCCA event, whatever its called) then it wouldn't really be for me, but it would be a great event. Also, the more stuff like that, the more difficult it is to organize and run.

I do like the Friday night test and tune, whether it is at a drag, circle or road track. then a gathering Saturday, even if it is at a garage, or similar venue.

As for the garage rental thing, around here we had developers build these 'Garage Mahal' complexes where guys could buy or lease 1000-6000 sqft garages, they were heated/cooled and could be finished in a number of ways. There are large parking lots and such. Because of the economy a lot of these are sitting vacant, even in forclosure. If there are similar outfits in your area, I bet the owners would be super excited to rent the space out for the weekend, then rent 2 lor more lifts, and there you go, large parking lot, garage and an owner that would basically let us do anything we wanted because hes excited to get any sort of money out of his failing investment.

I'm fine if the name changes, but Timmayfest2011 is fine with me too.

I'll pipe back in with more opinions/ suggestions if I have them.

Thanks for startin the works on this again.

Bob
 

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I tried getting the local BMWCCA chapter involved last year, they wanted no part in it for some reason. I was just blown off when the subject came up.

I worry about having a "track day" or "drag day" as the event. I don't want to be repsonsible for someone crashing their car. We all hope it would never come to that, but if it did, that would really suck. That is why I like the idea of having a non-formal meet Friday night for "Test and Tune" at the local drag strip. That way THEY handle all of the release forms and legal crap. Then have a meet Saturday somewhere we decide. I do like Peter's idea of Watkins Glenn and NE Motorsports, but I could not head that project. I am no where near those locations.

I 2nd the idea of Latino women. Thank you Sir.


I think a track day is a fantastic idea. What's safer than driving your high-powered car in a controlled environment? Chances are it may give you the skill set required to save your car/self/family. a skill set that you wouldn't have had much of a chance to learn elsewhere. but, who am I kidding, where else can you go really lay into your car...legally and not in a straight line?

I am friends with multiple organizations that hold sanctioned, organized, instructed track days in the Mid-Atlantic; so, if this is desirable, i'm sure we can work something out.

Also, hpde insurance, race track insurance, de insurance, track driving school insurance, on track insurance - ontrackinsurance.com has insurance for HPDE events.



P.S. Watkins Glen scares me with all those close walls.

P.P.S. I'm also friends with the owner of this [future] facility Home
 

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Tim didnt the head of your local BMWCCA change and the new guy intro'd himself @ Timmayfest? He said that he would love to be a part of the next one if I remember correctly?
 

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Chris, I don't recall speaking to a new BMWCCA guy at all. As far as I know there hasn't been a change. For the last 3 years I have been a BMWCCA member it has been the same people. The meetings are very bland and boring, I don't even go anymore. when I brought up Timmayfest I was totally blown off because it wasn't a "driving" event.

Look, when I called Mid-Ohio last year about having the event there the best they could do is give us a parking lot. The chances of us getting are cars on the track is slim to none. The are booked YEARSSSSSSSS in advance for the weekends and were still pretty booked for weekdays which STILL cost $10k'ish. A track day would cater to a SMALL percentage of those coming, mainly us with the track worthy cars, say 15%? For me, I vote AGAINST a track day. Now a drag strip environment on Friday and a "garage/meet" day on Saturday sounds good. I can make some calls about location a garage, but finding one that has parking outside for 200 cars will be a problem. I have a feeling this year will be twice as big as last year.

The drag strip I am thinking about is called National Trails Raceway (link) a local rock station sets up shop and broadcasts from there every Friday night during the summer with a "Test and Tune" theme. I am being told there are some pretty sweet cars that attend along with your typical rice-a-roni kids. I can contact them about getting us a roped off area on that Friday night of our meet if we are interested.

Another option is for me to find a local parking lot and we could set up cones and do a SCCA type event. I could try to talk to BMWCCA (not something I'm thrilled about doing, but will) about finding out how to go about this. I am sure they will know a way to get things going. I just don't want to have to deal with insurance, waiver forms, blah blah blah......
 

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I second it not being about driving or dragging. I had the most fun talking with my boys. Like Steve said, the closer we can get to last years event and/or Adam's garage for Herrubermensch"fest" the better.

D.J. ? Yes
Food ? Yes
Eurocharged girls? Yes
30+ E39 M5's and their kick AZZ owners? HELLZ YES!
 

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I too think it was enjoyable because everyone was able to just plain hang out. The Quaker location worked well because they served beer and food. Their lot was the right size also. The Friday night track event sounds great if there is a location we all can park and get together, then root on our fellow members while on the strip.

Thus, I say strip, strip club Friday night. Saturday, back to QS&L with the same format as last year and something similar to what you guys apparently did Saturday night with your idea of breakfast being a good one. Although, since I had to leave Saturday I would change that aspect completely.

Tim, it was a great time last year and even if you want to completely do it the same, I'm sure you will get an even larger response this year. Word is out my man and the sticker still resides on my car. I'll be wearing it proudly next year to "Timmayfest 2011" in June. Too many conflicts in the month of May. Whatever you come up with, it will be fantastic.
 
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