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Well She is back:happybirt:happybirt

The Faz had her on the run up to Christmas rebuilding the Rear SLS and had the EDC rebuilt by Sportsline. A few other bits too

Result is she drives superb:wroom::wroom:

As for the body work well heres how the story goes,,,

I have a great guy Dan Cale 07930648903 who looks after her bodywork normally but circumstances took a bad turn last year

I did an installaton for a Bodywork company who then started to mess around when it came to paying, wont mention name yet as still in dispute:eek:

i mentioned that if they couldnt pay they could do some work on my cars to pay off the bill, First up the e34

I dropped the car off on a thursday afternoon and told the contact there i wanted it locked inside overnight he assured me he would. Not too trusting i passed by the next day and there she was hadnt moved an inch! To say i was furious would be a conservative remark. I explained it is one of 5 in that colour in this country and if it went missing i would be looking foa a 5 figure settlement. She was locked away that night:)

The work was meant to take a week, two weeks later still nowhere near finished. Now the work they were to carry out was to eradicate the rust at the bottom of the doors(surface only) behind the petrol cap, and a couple more little blemishes. Not a lot of work but still important issues. Then the car was to be machine polished to finish off.

When i went to collect her after two weeks this how i found her upon my arrival.(first pic) I now was proper peed off and told them i wanted a car to take home. They gave me another customers Audi A4 convertible! I wanted the car to be theirs so i could treat it like crap but as i would want my car to be treated with respect, unlike them, i looked after it.

The car was to be dropped off to me 2 days later in the afternoon. I got a call to say it would be the following morning and i had to work so i left the keys with a neighbour and when i got home the job was PANTS!! repeater indicators on the wrong sides rubber door trims on the wrong side, ripples on other door strips, and the matt trim on the top of the doors were bumpy! And to top it off the bottom door trims were glued on and badly too(pic 2)

Pics 3 and 4 are of how she is now, the rear stance is so so sexy now mmmmmm

More details and pics to follow as i dont want to bore you but the findings of Dan will follow on the shoddy workmanship the ensued
 

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Wow! in my experience anytime you allow someone to "work off" or "trade off" a balance owed to you, you will end up with a shoddy job, all they probably cared about was get your car done as quickly and cheaply as possible so they can take the cost of of their balance with you. The lack of quality work is evident in the pictures, it is unfortunate as it is a great color and beautiful car. If it were my car, I would take it back to the shop in question and tell them that they have 2 choices, either fix the crappy job that they did or leave it and not deduct the cost from their balance with you. You should not have to suffer with sub par workmanship just because it was a "freebie" on their end.
 

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Part 2

Well the e39 was due to go in for a full machine polish and a couple if door dings but absotutely not a hope!

Within 6 weeks since i got the e34 back the petrol cap rust had returned naking me wonder what else had not been done (Pic 1)

As mentioned before the car came back not at all in good shape and Dan was on notice. :crying::crying: What a bunch of useless rip off merchants

When dan stripped the Car down he told me the area around the petrol cap had been knocked in and filled resulting in a couple of small holes that had to be welded and repaired grrrrrrr (Pic 2) and the ripples in the doors were now getting attended to by Dan and looking better (Pic 3)

These are smaller as were sent by phone

As you can see now the lines of the car are so so straight (Pics 4&5)

Interior is next up
 

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at least she is getting fixed properly now... I would add the cost to what the other guy owes you as he caused you more work, more money and cut many corners on top of it all.

on a side note, you mentioned sportline rebuilt your edc, I have ben trying to reach them from the USA to get a price on doing mine but they do not return my emails or phone calls. How was the work they did on the strut rebuild especially the fronts and any suggestion as to how I might get intouch with them?
 

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I've only had the rears done. The fronts are on order with my local Dealer as there have been other members not happy with the front rebuild.

Dont have a date on the delivery as one side is not in stock even in Germany so i am waiting til both are ready for delivery along with the spring. mounts and all relative bits:byebye:

The job done on the rears is great so far so no complaints yet. I was lucky as Farrell sorted it all for me and i never actually dealt with sportsline.??????

The EDC struts were bought before off another board member, so the car was not off the road for too long and then the ones on the car( 4 years and ony 5k miles done) are now in storage ready for the next time:crying:

As for the dodgy garage there is a dossier being built up in readiness for pending litigation:deal::deal:

Little taste of the pending interiors works
 

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Your car looks great now Mr Mac , although I am surprised that you entrusted it to guys that obviously didn't justify that trust .

Meanwhile , I would reconsider fitting champagne leather and think that your alcantara suits the car perfectly , whilst being more practical !

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What a bunch of tossers, surprised that they thought they could get away with a shoddy job on an enthusiasts car.

What also shocks me is that they sent you away in another CUSTOMERS CAR! what the f**k! Surely this musty be against some law, if any garage lent one of my cars to another customer I'd be seeking their blood.

Whenever I leave a car with a workshop I don't know pretty well I note the mileage, in front of their staff... many years ago a Renault dealership had a car of mine, left it with a full tank, when I collected it was empty, a legal threat from my solicitor had surprising results on that occasion, but, hence why I always note the mileage now.
 

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Your car looks great now Mr Mac , although I am surprised that you entrusted it to guys that obviously didn't justify that trust .

Meanwhile , I would reconsider fitting champagne leather and think that your alcantara suits the car perfectly , whilst being more practical !

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Thank you Mr O it was a case of trying to get paid old bean, Didn't want to go back to the ghetto days and get all Stonebridge on them as the family helps keep the feet firmly on the ground, :nono:

As for the champagne I 100% agree on the practicality side of things but as Steve H will agree it looks the nuts and that's what I want, can always go back if I don't like it when it's in and sell the champagne after. I just have fond memories of my first introduction to a Rosso LE years ago(98 I think) and drooling over that interior

Love it in the cruiser and it looks sooooooooo nice
 

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munich legends WHAT A JOKE

Brought a BMW M5 from munich legends in dec 2010 1800 miles later clutch and fly wheel has fail due to INHERENT MISS-USE BY PREVIOUS OWNER thats what BMW dealer has told me and so has an independent report that was done by RAC warrenty company. Asked munich legend to help with the bill (£2355):crying: as the car wa sold not fit for purpose TRADING STANDARDS ACT 1979 was told that i had no chance as they only made £1000 plus vat off the sale of the car WISH WE ALL MADE THAT KIND OF MONEY OFF THE SALE OFF CARS
i am thinking of taking these guy to a small claims court they just ignore all calls and email, letters DO NOT BUY ANY CAR GET SERVICE OR HAVE ANY WORK DONE BY THESE GUYS how they can even say there BMW specialist is a joke BMW should vet these jokers and give them a reliant dealership thats all there worth BUYERS BEWARE hope this site helps even just 1 person not to get ripped off as i have:crying2:<!-- google_ad_section_end -->
 

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Was this the low mileage dark fjord grey example ?

I have a good used dual mass flywheel if it helps you or I believe that one of our Brazilian members may have an almost new one for sale .

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Brought a BMW M5 from munich legends in dec 2010 1800 miles later clutch and fly wheel has fail due to INHERENT MISS-USE BY PREVIOUS OWNER thats what BMW dealer has told me and so has an independent report that was done by RAC warrenty company. Asked munich legend to help with the bill (£2355):crying: as the car wa sold not fit for purpose TRADING STANDARDS ACT 1979 was told that i had no chance as they only made £1000 plus vat off the sale of the car WISH WE ALL MADE THAT KIND OF MONEY OFF THE SALE OFF CARS
i am thinking of taking these guy to a small claims court they just ignore all calls and email, letters DO NOT BUY ANY CAR GET SERVICE OR HAVE ANY WORK DONE BY THESE GUYS how they can even say there BMW specialist is a joke BMW should vet these jokers and give them a reliant dealership thats all there worth BUYERS BEWARE hope this site helps even just 1 person not to get ripped off as i have:crying2:<!-- google_ad_section_end -->
In reference to your purchase read this http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/e34-m5-discussion/88531-experiences-munich-legends.html

The new owners of Munich Legends. who you bought your car from, replied in post 34 on page 4,note their concern in that reply. hope this is of use to you.

Did they not offer to do the clutch and flywheel at cost for you even? I know when Barney and Tony Halse were there they carried out the Knock list itemising all that was wrong with the cars and hopefully you would get it all done with them, not bad marketing. Did the new guys supply you with anything like that? Did they do any work to the car to get it ready for sale or were they selling it on behalf of the owner? I for one would like to hear what they have to say. They could be relatively innocent in this being it was the clutch:confused:

If you havent had the clutch done yet try a few specialists as £2335 sounds a bit steep:eek:

Also if you start a new thread or join that thread your findings will get a bit more exposure. Sorry to hear about your negative findings but going forward good luck with the M5:wroom: Also get a few pics on:M5thumbs::M5thumbs:
 

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If you havent had the clutch done yet try a few specialists as £2335 sounds a bit steep:eek:
Sounds very steep to me too, and if the ML have only bought the car and then sold it on, then they're unlikely to know how it's been driven, and the clutches on these cars can take plenty of abuse before deciding to give up.

In over 100,000 miles I only ever had one clutch/flywheel done on an e34 M5, and that was about 6 months after I bought my first one. Unfortunately my £800 cost of the clutch & flywheel in 2000 can't really help with pricing in today's money.

If you've only had it just over a month, then I can't see how ML can claim the fault was not there when you bought it, and should either offer to fix it themselves or offer something towards getting it fixed elsewhere. Did they not provide you with a warranty when you bought it (or is this the RAC warranty you're talking about)?

I'd have a word with your local trading standards, but remember that the price you paid for the car will have some bearing on what you can expect to get out of a trader - and very cheap cars have very little protection.
 

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I'd have a word with your local trading standards, but remember that the price you paid for the car will have some bearing on what you can expect to get out of a trader - and very cheap cars have very little protection.
IIRC the fjord grey was up for £11995 at ML if this is the car it is far from very cheap:M5thumbs:
 

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IIRC the fjord grey was up for £11995 at ML if this is the car it is far from very cheap:M5thumbs:
Should mean plenty of SOGA protection then :wow:
 

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Asked munich legend to help with the bill (£2355):crying: <!-- google_ad_section_end -->
When mine was done at BMW (I didn't pay for it, long story!!) it was around £900 for the clutch! That was done about this time last year.
 

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