Old topic but always relevant - Which exhaust do I go for?
Knew my next step was changing the sound, and maybe the HP and response of the beast as a bonus, but there are quite a few vendor options...and then further options with every system they sell.
Was looking at Remus, RPi, Eisenmann etc and also custom ones from Hayward&Scott and also discovered the stainless steel exhaust business is thriving in the UK as there are quite a few custom builders based all over the place.
Had a goal in mind of replacing all 4 sections (eventually) and was naturally drawn to Supersprint and the work done with Stormsters Beast to create a RHD header - of which I am not sure anyone else makes one? But never had a goal of a single vendor full exhaust in mind so I was willing to mix and match the best sections to get the right sound/performance and was waiting and researching.
Then came across an offer by Phil at CA Auto of a stock clearance of SS Race mufflers and non-resonated x-pipe and all my senses went out of the window.
Called Phil Friday, they arrived Saturday morning, and was installed Saturday afternoon.
The parts installed are as follows (not actually from Turner but thanks for the info guys
):
Turner Motorsport - Item# 044636.044606 - E60 M5 Supersprint Stainless Race Exhaust System - E60
and
Turner Motorsport - Item# 789213 - E60 M5 Supersprint Connecting Pipe - E60
An example install by Turner:
Turner Motorsport: E60 M5 SuperSprint Installation
They arrived well packaged and tips well protected but you can get them out of the boxes and in the car easily:
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You cur the stock pipe after the middle bracket and just before the Secondary (Main) Cats. The x-pipe slips on with some sealant but it is designed with the relevant bolts for clamping on. The rear boxes then just clamp onto the x-pipe again with the built in bolt/clamp. I bought some new rubber hangers or bushes if you want to call them that from a local stealer as I expected them to be pretty worn after 100k miles. Bolt everything back on - job done.
This was done by a local shop (that does stuff quick) as a courtesy and took all of 20 minutes - heres how it looks:
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OK the important bit - what does it sound like.
Now this area is where everyone elses posts, thoughts, feelings, or youtube views kind of fall apart. I never read a consistent response from individuals about what they thought of their exhaust sound and reverberation - I would read about someone's woe's on how they had to remove their system as it was too loud...then another poster would say it was fine and it got confusing.
I knew this was the Race and non-resonanted version so expected a shed load of noise but you know what, in my objective opinion its not that bad. You get a reverberation on startup and low gears; you hear more tickover sound on idle but not overly heavy (not neighbours complaining heavy); you get more sound when between 1500 and 3000 whereas with stock it was very minimal; and you get a more deeper throaty sound past 5000 which builds as stock did but is much much deeper. The vibration is certainly there but unobtrusive, and the test at 70-80mph there was no difference to stock other than a different burble sound...SEE this is a very objective review - in any case - i love it:1:
Next important bit is torque and response(engine/throttle..any changes).
Did not expect a thing different from what reviews had said and they are right - torque seems at a par level to stock, but I do feel the throttle response is....smoother:dunno:...feels more fluid...you know when you blip up and there's a bump sometimes or that pause at low speed - I am sure its much more linear with no bump but its only been 45 minutes driving local roads so far.
In summary - good deal from Phil at CA :M5thumbs:, brilliantly made exhaust with no welding by SS:M5thumbs:, and a wonderful sound and feeling from the new zorst.
I haven't got the downpipe or headers yet but to me it feels like a new car that I have to get to know again:M5thumbs::M5thumbs::M5thumbs:.
Waiting for the phenomenon of the tips growing when hot - I reckon the car is excited and gets an erection.......been watching too much Frankie Boyle:biggrinbounce:
Not sure I can say anymore on the matter but you are welcome to Wolves to hear it out - youtube vids wont help.
Next step...Evolve tune:biggrinbounce:
Knew my next step was changing the sound, and maybe the HP and response of the beast as a bonus, but there are quite a few vendor options...and then further options with every system they sell.
Was looking at Remus, RPi, Eisenmann etc and also custom ones from Hayward&Scott and also discovered the stainless steel exhaust business is thriving in the UK as there are quite a few custom builders based all over the place.
Had a goal in mind of replacing all 4 sections (eventually) and was naturally drawn to Supersprint and the work done with Stormsters Beast to create a RHD header - of which I am not sure anyone else makes one? But never had a goal of a single vendor full exhaust in mind so I was willing to mix and match the best sections to get the right sound/performance and was waiting and researching.
Then came across an offer by Phil at CA Auto of a stock clearance of SS Race mufflers and non-resonated x-pipe and all my senses went out of the window.
Called Phil Friday, they arrived Saturday morning, and was installed Saturday afternoon.
The parts installed are as follows (not actually from Turner but thanks for the info guys
):Turner Motorsport - Item# 044636.044606 - E60 M5 Supersprint Stainless Race Exhaust System - E60
and
Turner Motorsport - Item# 789213 - E60 M5 Supersprint Connecting Pipe - E60
An example install by Turner:
Turner Motorsport: E60 M5 SuperSprint Installation
They arrived well packaged and tips well protected but you can get them out of the boxes and in the car easily:
You cur the stock pipe after the middle bracket and just before the Secondary (Main) Cats. The x-pipe slips on with some sealant but it is designed with the relevant bolts for clamping on. The rear boxes then just clamp onto the x-pipe again with the built in bolt/clamp. I bought some new rubber hangers or bushes if you want to call them that from a local stealer as I expected them to be pretty worn after 100k miles. Bolt everything back on - job done.
This was done by a local shop (that does stuff quick) as a courtesy and took all of 20 minutes - heres how it looks:
OK the important bit - what does it sound like.
Now this area is where everyone elses posts, thoughts, feelings, or youtube views kind of fall apart. I never read a consistent response from individuals about what they thought of their exhaust sound and reverberation - I would read about someone's woe's on how they had to remove their system as it was too loud...then another poster would say it was fine and it got confusing.
I knew this was the Race and non-resonanted version so expected a shed load of noise but you know what, in my objective opinion its not that bad. You get a reverberation on startup and low gears; you hear more tickover sound on idle but not overly heavy (not neighbours complaining heavy); you get more sound when between 1500 and 3000 whereas with stock it was very minimal; and you get a more deeper throaty sound past 5000 which builds as stock did but is much much deeper. The vibration is certainly there but unobtrusive, and the test at 70-80mph there was no difference to stock other than a different burble sound...SEE this is a very objective review - in any case - i love it:1:
Next important bit is torque and response(engine/throttle..any changes).
Did not expect a thing different from what reviews had said and they are right - torque seems at a par level to stock, but I do feel the throttle response is....smoother:dunno:...feels more fluid...you know when you blip up and there's a bump sometimes or that pause at low speed - I am sure its much more linear with no bump but its only been 45 minutes driving local roads so far.
In summary - good deal from Phil at CA :M5thumbs:, brilliantly made exhaust with no welding by SS:M5thumbs:, and a wonderful sound and feeling from the new zorst.
I haven't got the downpipe or headers yet but to me it feels like a new car that I have to get to know again:M5thumbs::M5thumbs::M5thumbs:.
Waiting for the phenomenon of the tips growing when hot - I reckon the car is excited and gets an erection.......been watching too much Frankie Boyle:biggrinbounce:
Not sure I can say anymore on the matter but you are welcome to Wolves to hear it out - youtube vids wont help.
Next step...Evolve tune:biggrinbounce:
