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Old topic but always relevant - Which exhaust do I go for?

Knew my next step was changing the sound, and maybe the HP and response of the beast as a bonus, but there are quite a few vendor options...and then further options with every system they sell.

Was looking at Remus, RPi, Eisenmann etc and also custom ones from Hayward&Scott and also discovered the stainless steel exhaust business is thriving in the UK as there are quite a few custom builders based all over the place.

Had a goal in mind of replacing all 4 sections (eventually) and was naturally drawn to Supersprint and the work done with Stormsters Beast to create a RHD header - of which I am not sure anyone else makes one? But never had a goal of a single vendor full exhaust in mind so I was willing to mix and match the best sections to get the right sound/performance and was waiting and researching.

Then came across an offer by Phil at CA Auto of a stock clearance of SS Race mufflers and non-resonated x-pipe and all my senses went out of the window.

Called Phil Friday, they arrived Saturday morning, and was installed Saturday afternoon.

The parts installed are as follows (not actually from Turner but thanks for the info guys:)):
Turner Motorsport - Item# 044636.044606 - E60 M5 Supersprint Stainless Race Exhaust System - E60
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Turner Motorsport - Item# 789213 - E60 M5 Supersprint Connecting Pipe - E60

An example install by Turner:
Turner Motorsport: E60 M5 SuperSprint Installation


They arrived well packaged and tips well protected but you can get them out of the boxes and in the car easily:



You cur the stock pipe after the middle bracket and just before the Secondary (Main) Cats. The x-pipe slips on with some sealant but it is designed with the relevant bolts for clamping on. The rear boxes then just clamp onto the x-pipe again with the built in bolt/clamp. I bought some new rubber hangers or bushes if you want to call them that from a local stealer as I expected them to be pretty worn after 100k miles. Bolt everything back on - job done.

This was done by a local shop (that does stuff quick) as a courtesy and took all of 20 minutes - heres how it looks:





OK the important bit - what does it sound like.

Now this area is where everyone elses posts, thoughts, feelings, or youtube views kind of fall apart. I never read a consistent response from individuals about what they thought of their exhaust sound and reverberation - I would read about someone's woe's on how they had to remove their system as it was too loud...then another poster would say it was fine and it got confusing.

I knew this was the Race and non-resonanted version so expected a shed load of noise but you know what, in my objective opinion its not that bad. You get a reverberation on startup and low gears; you hear more tickover sound on idle but not overly heavy (not neighbours complaining heavy); you get more sound when between 1500 and 3000 whereas with stock it was very minimal; and you get a more deeper throaty sound past 5000 which builds as stock did but is much much deeper. The vibration is certainly there but unobtrusive, and the test at 70-80mph there was no difference to stock other than a different burble sound...SEE this is a very objective review - in any case - i love it:1:

Next important bit is torque and response(engine/throttle..any changes).

Did not expect a thing different from what reviews had said and they are right - torque seems at a par level to stock, but I do feel the throttle response is....smoother:dunno:...feels more fluid...you know when you blip up and there's a bump sometimes or that pause at low speed - I am sure its much more linear with no bump but its only been 45 minutes driving local roads so far.

In summary - good deal from Phil at CA :M5thumbs:, brilliantly made exhaust with no welding by SS:M5thumbs:, and a wonderful sound and feeling from the new zorst.

I haven't got the downpipe or headers yet but to me it feels like a new car that I have to get to know again:M5thumbs::M5thumbs::M5thumbs:.

Waiting for the phenomenon of the tips growing when hot - I reckon the car is excited and gets an erection.......been watching too much Frankie Boyle:biggrinbounce:

Not sure I can say anymore on the matter but you are welcome to Wolves to hear it out - youtube vids wont help.

Next step...Evolve tune:biggrinbounce:
 

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Hi,

Nice parts, but I think very expensive.
All together round about 2800USD.

Soundfile?
Thanks.

Oh yes - price! SS is more than average I guess - the standard price of the section 2 and 3 I bought will get you 1, 2 and 3 sections from RPI. But as I said the offer was good - estimate $1800USD plus I knew I wanted a sound upgrade and there was nothing to suggest that SS would not deliver this requirement plus there was a lot of good feedback on the system having no drone at motorway speeds - so I took a (sale price) gamble and has paid off. I really do think you get what you pay for and I could read from the Stormster experience alone SS want to make the best exhausts out there to fit what the customer wants.

Off to try out my new pipes again so will try and take a vid else will wait till daylight tomorrow - but I still think it won't show the real experience
 

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They look great, congrats! Your kids are gonna get a nice massage when you take them out next.
 
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They look great, congrats! Your kids are gonna get a nice massage when you take them out next.
hiha

I have just come back from another run and I was thinking the same thing - I am gonna get "Daddy my seat is shaking".....I shall tell them its a new massage function:)
 

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Now had the wife and kids in the upgraded beast today driving local roads in gears 1-4 and never above 4000rpm....no one noticed a difference and never commented on the sound.

Kids even put the windows down in the rear.

I could tell of course, and feel the vibration in my seat, but no one else did so I reckon it was because I was listening out for it.

This has worked out better than I thought - I was dreading the hassle of complaints about sound from family and neighbours (although I would never have taken out the boxes) but day two and I have not get any - lets see how the next few weeks pan out and will update this thread...I wanna hear their comments when its at 8000rpm.

So to repeat myself again - SuperSprint Race and non-res pipe was the right choice...can't wait for the motorways this week to try it out proper.

This modding is addictive and I have already emailed Evolve for the next phase-they have not been going long but have a solid rep to date - any of you guys that have used them for the E60 please comment for extra reassurance.
 

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Cold start this morning and was loud as expected but not a sausage from the family...the neighbours white Ford Escort diesel van was rattling louder than me as we idled cleaning frosted windows so it's not actually as loud as expected...after a few minutes warm up the sound quietened with the drop in idle RPM....these are all observations from outside the car.

More thoughts about the sound-it's a rumbly V8 type sound for sure and the high pitched F1 "shrill" or treble tone is less present. Not a bad thing-I like it.

My conclusions so far are the SuperSprint Race muffler+X-pipe is quieter than the RPI GT or Eisenmann Race as this is tame, and both of those alternatives enhance the high pitched sounds whereas this gives you a V10 rumble.

I will stop posting about the sound as I am becoming obsessed with it-just going to enjoy it.
 

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I'm glad you are happy with your supersprint exhaust system. I definitely understand where you are coming from..It was a tough decision for myself to choose between systems. I'm glad that I picked the RPI GTS exhaust system for my car. I'm very happy with my purchase so far. It is loud at cold start as well, but after it warms up it just a nice deep v10 sound.
Good to hear you are pleased with the SS. Enjoy.
 
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Gratz on a good buy :) They look great! I imagine the sound is perfect :) NOW get the headers and enjoy the best gain yet :) The weirdest thing once the headers are on is the distance the rear pipes move by from hot and cold!
 

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i had the exact same setup on my M5. sounded good but once i took my car back to stock i realized that i had lost noticable power with the SS setup. It looks good, sounds good but in my opinion loses power.
 

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Hmmmm-that does not sound good-just come back from a motorway run and it certainly did not feel like any power was lost.

Must say one major change that I can't explain is the smoothing out of gear changes, when I was at about 70mph in 6th and blipped down to 5th I saw the display change but felt nothing-foot was off power.

Also between 70-90mph in top gear below 4000rpm there is no difference in sound-the same stock so pretty quiet.

Will find out about power when I dyno with Evolve the weekend:haha2:
 

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congrats bro, when a car is making over 500 hp, does it really matter if it loses some horse power?... To some yeah, but to some it doesn't... There are only a few systems on the market that have shown proven gains... I love it when people install exhausts, reminds me of the time when i first installed mine.. Awesome experience... Happy motoring.
 
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Hmmmm-that does not sound good-just come back from a motorway run and it certainly did not feel like any power was lost.

Must say one major change that I can't explain is the smoothing out of gear changes, when I was at about 70mph in 6th and blipped down to 5th I saw the display change but felt nothing-foot was off power.

Also between 70-90mph in top gear below 4000rpm there is no difference in sound-the same stock so pretty quiet.

Will find out about power when I dyno with Evolve the weekend:haha2:
I was lucky enough that when mine was at the supersprint factory in Italy they tested my car with each section of exhaust on in different configerations to show what each bolt on gave. Rear boxes actually gave 2 crank bhp... so nothing basically and this could easily be down to environmental factors, but certainly not a loss in power

My shoulder is sort of working again BTW so we can try that runway 6 run sometime now :)
 

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Cheers Mark, I am happy with it and its halfway to the full Supersprint set which I will have to get later.

Will PM you to plan the best time to meet up.
 

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congrats bro, when a car is making over 500 hp, does it really matter if it loses some horse power?... To some yeah, but to some it doesn't... There are only a few systems on the market that have shown proven gains... I love it when people install exhausts, reminds me of the time when i first installed mine.. Awesome experience... Happy motoring.
Thanks shezmon - never got it for performance boost anyway just the sound and reverb ...and boy has it delivered...very happy motoring:D
 
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