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Please read this thread first then...here's some simple yet effective pointers.

The moderators here take moderating very seriously and we do try to limit our moderation to the bare minimum. However, members are also guests here who should try to stick to the (sometimes unspoken) houserules...

We can't jump into every thread and post our expectations, members need to understand that mindset. Also, there certainly is no hard-and-fast rule about what is appropriate to post. But sometimes it's easier to try to drag the thread back on-topic by deleting a few one-liner posts that don't really contribute to the discussion.

There are lots of other car messageboards where most discussions are limited to one-liner comments and lots of 'LOL' responses. We're not going to ever let that happen here. Posts containing nothing more than 'LOL' 'haha', etc don't really contribute anything to the discussion. Also we'd rather not see wildly off-topic one-liner posts in each and every thread. That very much limits the opportunity for meaningful, in-depth discussion which we try to stimulate here.

What we're trying to achieve on this messageboard is that members take the time to think about their responses. We'd rather see a 10 paragraph, highly detailed and well-argumented post about the merits of the CLS63 than 100 one-liner posts. That 10 paragraph post can be of interest to enthusiasts 10 years from now. The one-liners typically lose their merit immediately upon posting.

Don't start a thread about subjects that have been asked many times before. You won't get good quality responses. If you can't take the small amount of time to conduct a basic search why should someone else take the time to respond to your question? Use the search feature to find out if your question has been discussed before: http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/search.php

Many of the recurring questions have been compiled in one easy-to-find 'Frequently Asked Questions' thread at the top of the forum. If you think a particular thread is interesting and informative enough to add to this thread please let me know.

Don't ask subjective questions (such as "what color should I get?")...and expect an objective answer. You will only get subjective answers.

Don't use irritating or non-descriptive thread titles...examples of such thread titles are:
ALL CAPS - using capital letters is like shouting on internet. Don't.
Using excessive punctation!!!!!!????!!!! - your question very likely isn't the meaning of life so try to keep it down to a basic descriptive thread title
****LOOK AT ME STARS**** - if your thread is interesting enough people will spend time and effort on it. If it's not an interesting thread chances are you won't make it any more interesting by using lots of stars.
the simple yet utterly useless "HELP!!" - unless you're at the verge of being ripped up by a roaming circus tiger or drowning in a tidal wave chances are you can actually do better than this. If you can't put more effort into a thread title how much effort do you reckon others are going to put into reading the thread?

Aside from all these pointers, it's also important to point out that you are very welcome here on M5board!
 

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I saw this thread just now, and I frequent this forum regularly.

Many don't see stickies (has only 215 views as of now), perhaps let this thread drift for a day or two on this forum for more exposure? :)


Or you should use more punctuations for this thread title.... :D (just joking :))
 

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How about:

Please used capitalization and punctuation. If you wish to elicit thoughtful and well written responses, putting the effort into your question will be returned by posters.

Use of internet slang:
I recommend against starting out with that in your posts- sure, once there is a relationship and you've established a position in the community.

For example:

hey, i just picked up an m5 but there is a noise in the rear- nei have this 2?

As opposed to:

Hello, Great board.

I am new to the M5 and this board, having just purchased a 2001 M5 with 53k miles. There is a low drumming noise coming from the rear, only noticable at 50-53mph. Any thoughts on what items I might want to search on to see if this might match the symptoms I am hearing?

Thanks for any help

Bob Noobie
 

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Careful with "Use the Search"

I see the "Use the Search" complaint uttered all too many times. This is a message board whose goal it is to bring owners together. Note that the e39 M5 has not been produced since 2003 and it is not coming back. So eventually, every question will be answered.

I love it when a newbie comes and says "What kind of exhausts are available for my m5?" Sure, we can point fingers at him and make him feel bad for not using the search, but it ruins the networking effect of this board. That guy may be near me, and I may want to show him my exhaust, and in the end make a friend out of it.

Further, there is a ton of information on this board but often it is not organized well. I have been doing research recently on upgrading headlights, and there's TOO MUCH information out there to answer my question properly. Much of it is organized poorly and many posts are contradictory.

I realize the search feature has its benefits. We all should use it. But too often the fingerpointing tone by users of the "Use the Search" comment takes away from the spirit of the board. Let's not forget why we're here.
 

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That is true. But it is also a valu in "digging up" older threads that have the vest answers to some of the questions. Sometimes just searching on the titles work for me, that does not give upp too many results.

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I see the "Use the Search" complaint uttered all too many times. This is a message board whose goal it is to bring owners together. Note that the e39 M5 has not been produced since 2003 and it is not coming back. So eventually, every question will be answered.

I love it when a newbie comes and says "What kind of exhausts are available for my m5?" Sure, we can point fingers at him and make him feel bad for not using the search, but it ruins the networking effect of this board. That guy may be near me, and I may want to show him my exhaust, and in the end make a friend out of it.

Further, there is a ton of information on this board but often it is not organized well. I have been doing research recently on upgrading headlights, and there's TOO MUCH information out there to answer my question properly. Much of it is organized poorly and many posts are contradictory.

I realize the search feature has its benefits. We all should use it. But too often the fingerpointing tone by users of the "Use the Search" comment takes away from the spirit of the board. Let's not forget why we're here.
 

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You found zero matches when searching for the word tires? :rolleyes:

Of course it's no problem asking new questions - even about existing topics. However there are many new members that ask questions which have been obviously been discussed many times previously - on the E60 M5 forum this would include feedback on options, request for pictures of colors, etc. On the E39 M5 forum this would include feedback on tires, most basic repair work, etc. It makes no sense to tolerate those questions when obviously the member hasn't even bothered to conduct some basic research.

With regards to tires - I think the surface has barely been scratched on the E60 M5 forum. Look forward to seeing some good discussions about that.
 

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Search before you ask, but don't forget spelling differences

Good point Kees, but have you tried spelling it "tyres" - if I did it right there are no matches.
 

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Good point Kees, but have you tried spelling it "tyres" - if I did it right there are no matches.
Yeh - but that would be the wrong spelling...it's spelled "tires". :grinyes: That would be like driving on the wrong side of the road... :3: :hihihi:

But point taken - it sometimes isn't logical on what words to search and then it's necessary for other members to point to relevant threads.
 

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I have a question: What can be done about chronic jerks? You know the guy who is always puttiing others down, and even when you go to read a different thread there he is being a smarta** and not in a nice friendly way but in a way that is just plain disrespectful!
 

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I have a question: What can be done about chronic jerks? You know the guy who is always puttiing others down, and even when you go to read a different thread there he is being a smarta** and not in a nice friendly way but in a way that is just plain disrespectful!
Good question.

It happens a few ways:

Peer pressure- model 'good behavior'; take the high road; if you must call them out, do so with class. It is also helpful when more than one person takes up the 'call'. If multiple people say "dude, this is just childish and unacceptable" you are telling not just that one person, but others what we accept here as a norm.

I for one am very proud of the community and how we've keep the discourse at a pretty high level.

When all else fails, report the post. The triangle with an ! is a report post. Give an explanation. This is not an 'automatic delete' but a mod will review it.

I believe that in general a broader cross section of people appreciate a civil, mature board in which all members feel they can participate without being attacked, ridiculed, disrespected- or just having to read unpunctuated slang.

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Thank you Ard, you have answered my question very well as well as finally detailing the exact purpose of the red triangle. I appreciate your well-mannered feedback
 

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Please read this thread first then...here's some simple yet effective pointers.

The moderators here take moderating very seriously and we do try to limit our moderation to the bare minimum. However, members are also guests here who should try to stick to the (sometimes unspoken) houserules...

We can't jump into every thread and post our expectations, members need to understand that mindset. Also, there certainly is no hard-and-fast rule about what is appropriate to post. But sometimes it's easier to try to drag the thread back on-topic by deleting a few one-liner posts that don't really contribute to the discussion.

There are lots of other car messageboards where most discussions are limited to one-liner comments and lots of 'LOL' responses. We're not going to ever let that happen here. Posts containing nothing more than 'LOL' 'haha', etc don't really contribute anything to the discussion. Also we'd rather not see wildly off-topic one-liner posts in each and every thread. That very much limits the opportunity for meaningful, in-depth discussion which we try to stimulate here.

What we're trying to achieve on this messageboard is that members take the time to think about their responses. We'd rather see a 10 paragraph, highly detailed and well-argumented post about the merits of the CLS63 than 100 one-liner posts. That 10 paragraph post can be of interest to enthusiasts 10 years from now. The one-liners typically lose their merit immediately upon posting.

Don't start a thread about subjects that have been asked many times before. You won't get good quality responses. If you can't take the small amount of time to conduct a basic search why should someone else take the time to respond to your question? Use the search feature to find out if your question has been discussed before: http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/search.php

Many of the recurring questions have been compiled in one easy-to-find 'Frequently Asked Questions' thread at the top of the forum. If you think a particular thread is interesting and informative enough to add to this thread please let me know.

Don't ask subjective questions (such as "what color should I get?")...and expect an objective answer. You will only get subjective answers.

Don't use irritating or non-descriptive thread titles...examples of such thread titles are:
ALL CAPS - using capital letters is like shouting on internet. Don't.
Using excessive punctation!!!!!!????!!!! - your question very likely isn't the meaning of life so try to keep it down to a basic descriptive thread title
****LOOK AT ME STARS**** - if your thread is interesting enough people will spend time and effort on it. If it's not an interesting thread chances are you won't make it any more interesting by using lots of stars.
the simple yet utterly useless "HELP!!" - unless you're at the verge of being ripped up by a roaming circus tiger or drowning in a tidal wave chances are you can actually do better than this. If you can't put more effort into a thread title how much effort do you reckon others are going to put into reading the thread?

Aside from all these pointers, it's also important to point out that you are very welcome here on M5board!
As a new member here, I find this post offensive. DO NOT tell me how or what to ask or write. That is borderline oppression. I have been reading posts on here for 2 years. I just joined only because I had a question that couldn't be found on google. I've been on countless forums and never has anyone had the arrogance to counsel members on their typing etiquette. If I want to I will ask otiose question as often as I chose. It is my right.
 

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As a new member here, I find this post offensive. DO NOT tell me how or what to ask or write. That is borderline oppression. I have been reading posts on here for 2 years. I just joined only because I had a question that couldn't be found on google. I've been on countless forums and never has anyone had the arrogance to counsel members on their typing etiquette.
If you can't stick to a few basic housekeeping rules that help to keep this a nice place maybe this is not the right messageboard for you. This thread has been around for more than a year now...if you have been reading posts here for 2 years surely you would have noticed it before deciding to become a member?

If I want to I will ask otiose question as often as I chose. It is my right.
This is a private forum where you are a guest. You do not have unlimited rights to do as you please. That's what helps to keep it a nice place.
 

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Uh, oh......

As a new member here, I find this post offensive. DO NOT tell me how or what to ask or write. That is borderline oppression. I have been reading posts on here for 2 years. I just joined only because I had a question that couldn't be found on google. I've been on countless forums and never has anyone had the arrogance to counsel members on their typing etiquette. If I want to I will ask otiose question as often as I chose. It is my right.
I smell a very quick BAN coming.:nono:
 

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Moderation in all things including the House rules.

Personally I choose to read the various threads on this board because the Mod's keep it relevant, respectful and on thread.

I am disappointed by PennsM5's comments, and whilst I do not always agree with the moderators I am firmly on their side here.

I too read other Forum posts and with very few exceptions I have to say they are less interesting than the M5board, sometimes even almost impossible to read due to the sheer silliness displayed. I vote with my mouse cursor to keep coming back here. lovelove
 

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Hey AWESOME.......this time Im not getting spanked !!!!! Although maybe I do need a good spankin as my wife says....lol
 

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Hello great board
I think i had a post that was deleted. I do say sorry to whom ever i offended.
Well I have been a bmw nut for a long time, and have had quit an array of m cars E30 m3, E36 m3, E46 m3 LSB. Then I got married and my wife hated the fact that I took care of my car so much. Funny being she has driven a passat, camry, and just recently she wanted to lease a honda pillot, so at this point the dealers are driving my wife nuts and she has had it so i told her i found a 5 series bmw which happens to be an M5 and she said she does not care as long as she has enough room for my two boys 4 years old and 8 months old. so my question is i found a few new M5 and some used, should I even think a M5 is a good wiffy car.

plus now Ill have a choice of cars to take to the track.

ps thank you so much great board
 

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