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I just picked up a 2006 BMW M5 and ive been going back and forth as to whether or not I should fork up the money for an aftermarket warranty. After doing some research online, I found a shop who rebuilds SMG pumps for the M5. I gave him a call and he said the price "may" be cheaper once he gets the pump, but 2250 - 300 (core) charge is the maximum it would cost (if he had to replace all the parts). He seems very knowledgeable and told me exactly what goes into the rebuild and said his turn around time is only 24 hours. This might be a good alternative to those like me who are out of warranty and end up with SMG pump failure. What are your guys thoughts? Pay $1950 to have your pump rebuilt or pay $2900 for a new pump?

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This is very interesting and very cool. I would consider this once my car goes out of warranty. I'm keeping this info, thanks!
 

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omg i am sooooo glad i just got on here today. Last week my SMG pump went out and the dealer is saying they want to charge 10k for a new clutch/flywheel and a new pump w/updated software. i had my car towed back to my house and its just been sitting in my garage. Before i read this I was thinking about swaping out the SMG and just getting a 6spd manual with a aftermarket clutch (to handle the HP) because i heard it would cost around 5 or6k. but if you find any more info about the rebuild plz let me know! asap
 

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omg i am sooooo glad i just got on here today. Last week my SMG pump went out and the dealer is saying they want to charge 10k for a new clutch/flywheel and a new pump w/updated software. i had my car towed back to my house and its just been sitting in my garage. Before i read this I was thinking about swaping out the SMG and just getting a 6spd manual with a aftermarket clutch (to handle the HP) because i heard it would cost around 5 or6k. but if you find any more info about the rebuild plz let me know! asap
Im sorry to hear about your troubles. I suggest you find a indy shop to pull your pump and send it off to get rebuilt. Ive gotten quotes around the $500 range for the labor. Total cost for the replacement should be $2500 - $3000.
 

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omg i am sooooo glad i just got on here today. Last week my SMG pump went out and the dealer is saying they want to charge 10k for a new clutch/flywheel and a new pump w/updated software. i had my car towed back to my house and its just been sitting in my garage. Before i read this I was thinking about swaping out the SMG and just getting a 6spd manual with a aftermarket clutch (to handle the HP) because i heard it would cost around 5 or6k. but if you find any more info about the rebuild plz let me know! asap
BTW, how did you know your pump went out? Did it completely die on you? or does it have issues switching gears?
 

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omg i am sooooo glad i just got on here today. Last week my SMG pump went out and the dealer is saying they want to charge 10k for a new clutch/flywheel and a new pump w/updated software.
$10k is stupid expensive - that's probably ~20-25% of the value of your car. It is so aggrivating that BMW charges an arm and a leg for these parts, and the dealer exacerbates the problem with techs that diagnose by replacement (rather than diagnose to replace). It is even more frustrating that your SMG failure is probably fixed by a $10 part.

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Thanks for this info. I'll file this information away for hopefully NEVER to be used. Good to know though, as I have a pretty good Indy guy nearby that could tackle this with no issue.
 

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My opinion, I would buy a brand new pump that way you have a 2 year unlimited mileage warranty. For the money and the long term hassle it makes more since. Either way you'll spend the extra money if you have any issues with the rebuilt pump and having to take it off again in labor costs, returns and downtime. Check to see what's the warranty on the rebuilt pump.
Just a thought.
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omg i am sooooo glad i just got on here today. Last week my SMG pump went out and the dealer is saying they want to charge 10k for a new clutch/flywheel and a new pump w/updated software. i had my car towed back to my house and its just been sitting in my garage. Before i read this I was thinking about swaping out the SMG and just getting a 6spd manual with a aftermarket clutch (to handle the HP) because i heard it would cost around 5 or6k. but if you find any more info about the rebuild plz let me know! asap
getbmwparts.com

Items Ordered:
Item: Clutch, Hydraulic system, Slave cylinder, Slave cylinder, all models
Price: $62.02
Tax: $0.00
Qty: 1
Total: $62.02

Item: Clutch, Clutch and flywheel, Release fork, Release fork, m5
Price: $11.92
Tax: $0.00
Qty: 1
Total: $11.92

Item: Clutch, Clutch and flywheel, Release bearing, Release bearing, m5
Price: $63.65
Tax: $0.00
Qty: 1
Total: $63.65

Item: Clutch, Clutch and flywheel, Pressure plate, Pressure plate, m5
Price: $701.20
Tax: $0.00
Qty: 1
Total: $701.20

Item: Clutch, Clutch and flywheel, Pilot bearing, Pilot bearing, m5
Price: $18.92
Tax: $0.00
Qty: 1
Total: $18.92

Item: Clutch, Clutch and flywheel, Flywheel, Flywheel, m5
Price: $1,325.56
Tax: $0.00
Qty: 1
Total: $1,325.56

All genuine bmw. Give them a try!:M5thumbs:

Jay
 

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getbmwparts.com

Items Ordered:
Item: Clutch, Hydraulic system, Slave cylinder, Slave cylinder, all models
Price: $62.02
Tax: $0.00
Qty: 1
Total: $62.02

Item: Clutch, Clutch and flywheel, Release fork, Release fork, m5
Price: $11.92
Tax: $0.00
Qty: 1
Total: $11.92

Item: Clutch, Clutch and flywheel, Release bearing, Release bearing, m5
Price: $63.65
Tax: $0.00
Qty: 1
Total: $63.65

Item: Clutch, Clutch and flywheel, Pressure plate, Pressure plate, m5
Price: $701.20
Tax: $0.00
Qty: 1
Total: $701.20

Item: Clutch, Clutch and flywheel, Pilot bearing, Pilot bearing, m5
Price: $18.92
Tax: $0.00
Qty: 1
Total: $18.92

Item: Clutch, Clutch and flywheel, Flywheel, Flywheel, m5
Price: $1,325.56
Tax: $0.00
Qty: 1
Total: $1,325.56

All genuine bmw. Give them a try!:M5thumbs:

Jay
Good info I may need at some time. Thanks
 

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Your welcome.

Jason and crew are great deal with. the prices are a few months old but can;t see they would have moved up.

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This is what I replaced including bolts, with part numbers etc (ignore the wheel caps and wheel bolts!):


23017838938* MANUAL CHANGE PER VIN - SLAVE CYLINDER 1 $240.80 $240.80
21511223302* MANUAL CHANGE PER VIN - RELEASE FORK 1 $14.52 $14.52
21212283089* MANUAL CHANGE PER VIN - CLUTCH KIT 1 $701.20 $701.20
11211720310 Clutch, Clutch and flywheel, Pilot bearing, Pilot bearing, m5 1 $18.92 $18.92
21212229955* MANUAL CHANGE PER VIN - FLYWHEEL 1 $1,325.56 $1,325.56
36136783536 Wheels, Covers and trim, Center cap, All others, All others 4 $11.40 $45.60
36136781150 Wheels, Covers and trim, Wheel bolt, Black, Black 20 $3.03 $60.60
23017837428* MANUAL ADD - CLUTCH SENSOR 1 $343.91 $343.91
21511223328* MANUAL ADD - BALL PIN 1 $0.98 $0.98
21517570284* MANUAL ADD - SPRING CLIP 1 $3.82 $3.82
23117564680* MANUAL ADD - GUIDE BUSHING 1 $10.22 $10.22
07119905805* MANUAL ADD - PRESSURE PLATE BOLTS 9 $0.58 $5.22
07119904633* MANUAL ADD - FLYWHEEL BOLTS 5 $0.14 $0.70
Sub Total $2,772.05
Shipping $870.27
Tax $0.00
Total $3,642.32

Cheers
Jay
 

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This is what I replaced including bolts, with part numbers etc (ignore the wheel caps and wheel bolts!):


23017838938* MANUAL CHANGE PER VIN - SLAVE CYLINDER 1 $240.80 $240.80
21511223302* MANUAL CHANGE PER VIN - RELEASE FORK 1 $14.52 $14.52
21212283089* MANUAL CHANGE PER VIN - CLUTCH KIT 1 $701.20 $701.20
11211720310 Clutch, Clutch and flywheel, Pilot bearing, Pilot bearing, m5 1 $18.92 $18.92
21212229955* MANUAL CHANGE PER VIN - FLYWHEEL 1 $1,325.56 $1,325.56
36136783536 Wheels, Covers and trim, Center cap, All others, All others 4 $11.40 $45.60
36136781150 Wheels, Covers and trim, Wheel bolt, Black, Black 20 $3.03 $60.60
23017837428* MANUAL ADD - CLUTCH SENSOR 1 $343.91 $343.91
21511223328* MANUAL ADD - BALL PIN 1 $0.98 $0.98
21517570284* MANUAL ADD - SPRING CLIP 1 $3.82 $3.82
23117564680* MANUAL ADD - GUIDE BUSHING 1 $10.22 $10.22
07119905805* MANUAL ADD - PRESSURE PLATE BOLTS 9 $0.58 $5.22
07119904633* MANUAL ADD - FLYWHEEL BOLTS 5 $0.14 $0.70
Sub Total $2,772.05
Shipping $870.27
Tax $0.00
Total $3,642.32

Cheers
Jay
Very good information. Thanks!
 

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BTW, how did you know your pump went out? Did it completely die on you? or does it have issues switching gears?
well im going back to the dealer tomorrow but the guy said it was the the pump and sensor...but this evening i wil give all exact details so i am not guessing...
 

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My car has 35k miles and need a new clutch and flywheel. Is it worth for me to get the slave cylinder and clutch position sensor if they are fine or is it worth the safety precaution?
 

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My car has 35k miles and need a new clutch and flywheel. Is it worth for me to get the slave cylinder and clutch position sensor if they are fine or is it worth the safety precaution?
It is kind of one of those, while you are in there, because if it goes out you will have to repeat the process again...so most people would just get the slave and clutch sensor, as they are relatively inexpensive compared to the rest of the project.
 

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The usual culprit for a failed SMG Pump is the motor. It cost $250 to $350 for a new one.


Has anyone confirmed that the Flywheel really needs replacing with a clutch assembly, or is it just a way for the stealership to con us out of more money?
 

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What shop repairs the SMG unit for an e60 m5? They hydraulic unit has went out, replaced pump motor and still getting fault codes, wont shift further than 2nd. Need someone to rebuild this. Dealer wants 4500 for just the unit! 25% of the car.

Read some threads of ppl rebuilding but no one says name of shop! Any help is needed...cars in shop, and 50/day on rental is getting expensive. Thanks.
 

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What shop repairs the SMG unit for an e60 m5? They hydraulic unit has went out, replaced pump motor and still getting fault codes, wont shift further than 2nd. Need someone to rebuild this. Dealer wants 4500 for just the unit! 25% of the car.


Read some threads of ppl rebuilding but no one says name of shop! Any help is needed...cars in shop, and 50/day on rental is getting expensive. Thanks.
 
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