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Hello everyone, finished up my Rod bearing and internal vanos line replacement a bit ago and finally got the videos edited and loaded up. It’s a 13 part series (yep, 13 parts, lol) that goes from the beginning to the vanos bleed and shows most every step along the way. I also included the parts list and special tools I used as well as how to set the vanos gear lash.

Maybe someone will find it helpful...or at a minimum what it takes to do the job that justifies to cost to have someone do it.

Below is the link to the first video...they are all grouped in a playlist so the others should be able to be found from this first one...it was a fun job for sure !!

 

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I’m excited to watch this series. I bought an E60 6-speed this week. It has 80,000 miles, and I was planning to do this job as soon as I bought it. I was actually planning to make a similar video series. It looks like that’s no longer necessary. Thanks.
 

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Awesome, very comprehensive, all inclusive. Thanks for taking the time to put this together!


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Awesome, very comprehensive, all inclusive. Thanks for taking the time to put this together!


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Thanks ! Probably a bunch of it won’t be needed by most so I tried to break it up into smaller video segments of the work so parts people have done can be skipped over. It actually took longer to edit the videos than to do the whole job, but at least I don’t have to remember all of the steps and can just reference the videos too, lol.
 

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Just watched 1-3 as I try to know and understand as much about these cars and engine as possible. Great job from what I have seen and extremely informative. Thanks for your contribution to the community.
 

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Thank you for taking the time to put this together. I am at the crossroads of DIY vs just pay someone else and get it over with. Really looking forward to watching and figuring out which path to go down.
 

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Thank you for taking the time to put this together. I am at the crossroads of DIY vs just pay someone else and get it over with. Really looking forward to watching and figuring out which path to go down.
Thanks ! It really wasn’t too complicated, but was a bit time consuming. Was some good arm exercise as well for sure, lol. The main reason I did mine as a DIY was that I don’t think many shops have even seen these V10’s and would be learning on my car. Plus they wouldn’t take the extra time to be sure things were put back right without breaking small things and then not telling me. A perfect example (it’s actually in the video part on removing the coils and plugs), is were someone before me broke several of the coil connector tops and then just stuck them back on. It’s amazing I wasn’t getting cylinder faults as they were just barely hanging on to the coils. Stuff like that always frustrates me when I find it later when they cut corners to get a job done that they didn’t realize how complicated it was going to be.

If you do end up getting quotes for the job, maybe you can post back up with the going price for the job...that way I can calculate how much the DIY was worth in $$$ so I can tell my wife....maybe she’ll finally be happy that I bought my car lift and it’s now paid for, lol.
 

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A high end BMW shop (high end all I mean is a clean shop with expoy floors and well organized tools) quoted me $1800 for labor only in NYC.


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I totally agree with your reason for doing it yourself, the thought of letting someone else touch my car makes me cringe. But unlike your situation, I have found an //M specialist nearby who has performed this job on countless M3/M5/M6s. While my attention to detail, lack of time restraints,and vested interest in making sure it is done properly typically tips the decision in favor of doing it myself, I feel like their specific expertise is likely to be the safer bet in this case. I am in Germany, I don't know how the estimate will compare to stateside costs, but I will post for reference. I was initially going to supply my own bearings (oversize) but they said they only use their own suppliers for parts for warranty reasons, so I am waiting to get the details ironed out.
 

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Is the rod bearing a thing in Germany as well? What’s the general consensus on this topic?


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there are countless threads and no shortage of info out there on rod bearing wear on the V10s and V8s in the M3s. Definitely read up on it for yourself, but it would seem that simple consensus is that the factory rod bearings should be treated as a wear item and should be addressed accordingly. What "addressed accordingly" means is where the endless debate comes in and you need to come to your own conclusion, but the issue of bearing wear on these engines is universal and not subject to geographic boundaries.
 

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If you do end up getting quotes for the job, maybe you can post back up with the going price for the job...that way I can calculate how much the DIY was worth in $$$ so I can tell my wife....maybe she’ll finally be happy that I bought my car lift and it’s now paid for, lol.
So the "estimate" (they have a set package price as they do this regularly) to replace the bearings and VANOS line I received was 2150EUR = $2365 which includes parts (all BMW factory parts and TWS) and labor, it also includes VAT/taxes which I will be exempt from, I am just not sure if the VAT only applies to parts, or parts & labor. Either way, I would say the DIY is worth around $1,500 for the bearings and VANOS, of course your includes spark plugs and more so $2k+ in total I would think.
 
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