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I leased a new 2007 m5 this past july from a dealer in illinois...The dealer never told me the car had paint damage nor did i know until the service foreman at bmw greenwich pointed it out to me and claimed it was likely not up to bmw specifications. The roof, rear fender, rear door was painted by the dealer and the clear coat on the hood has damage. I have gone back and forth with BMNA who is claiming it is an issue with the dealer. The dealer acknowledged the problem after initially lying but claims it is not under illinois lemon law since they think the damage is only around $2000. BMWNA looked at the history and determined the damage did not occur at the vpc since there was no record. When I initially confronted my salesman he said they did not know of any damage and that it may have occurred since they traded for the car for an m6 from Century(chicago dealer?) He went on to say if there was damage it could have happened elsewhere because they traded for the car not once but twice. He later retracted the aforementioned claim when I went back and looked at my window sticker which listed the dealer(springfield) as the actual destination dealership post entry at Charleston, SC. I just had the damage appraised by factory trained bmw paint specialist at $5100 who does work from BMW Oyster Bay and some Manhattan. They were appalled at the damage and felt bad for me. The local bmw rep was contacted and has since directed me to take up with my dealer and has left me hanging high and dry....the paint is fading and i am worried that when i turn the car in off lease, they will assess more damage. Bmw north america has claimed they put the "damage" in my file and that i should not have a problem. If anyone has an attorney to help with this, please send me a message.:mad::crying2:
 

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A bunch of the Board members went to the VDC tour in California a few months back and I was quite surprised to see the on site body shop.

When cars incur body damage in tranport to the USA that work is "fixed" and the distrbution center.

This seems to be the case for your car. See if you can trace back the paper work of where the car arrived and what was done to it. I wish you the best of luck with the final outcome.
 

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thanks for the post--the car was damaged after leaving the port. the dealer said there was paint damage that they had repaired. Had the car been repaired at vpc, the qaulity would be much better,,,the dealer sanded all the peal off the bad areas...body people think brake fluid ran all over the car
 

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You've got me paranoid now. Good luck getting this resolved to your pleasing. It's a disgrace BMW can get away with this, especially the non-disclosure. So this doesn't count as a crash on the title?
 

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remember, buyer beware...i dont know what it means for the title since the dealer lied about initially and never reported it--i went to illinois b.c i was looking for an 07 silver gray smg and there were none on the east coast--i asked the dealer if there were any problems over long distance call and he said "no"---i then agreed to buy the car. in the future, i am always going to have someone inspect a car no matter where i purchase the vehicle. i'm on a mission now...
 

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Your dealer cannot get away with this! I do not know about new york but i am a dealer down here in miami. We MUST disclose any damage totaling more than 3% of the msrp in writing. If they fail to do this it constitutes a HUGE fine for the dealer and compensation for you. Get a goot lawyer and you should have a case.
 

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For what it's worth, and I know it is a pain in the a**, but I would find an attorney in Illinois. Will be cheaper for you in the long run, and will ensure that the attorney knows the local laws. Good luck with that. What a shame.
 

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For what it's worth, and I know it is a pain in the a**, but I would find an attorney in Illinois. Will be cheaper for you in the long run, and will ensure that the attorney knows the local laws. Good luck with that. What a shame.
+1. You definitely need an IL lawyer.
 

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thank you for your responses...this is really starting to wear on me...i looked up who does some of the best bmw paint work and found andy at kos-tom collision outside the City through bmwcca. He showed what "factory-like" paintwork should look like and how trained specialists can replicate the factory peal. apparently my car was not sprayed properly, the paint is the wrong color, the peal is sanded off and the clear is almost nonexistant. I am going to contact an attorney in springfield. if you want to see andy's work, check out www.kos-tom.com.
 

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This is NOT a BMW issue; this is a lying dealer issue.

BMW should not accept any responsibility for this as they did not cause it.

If you are just worried about the paint damage effecting your lease return, do not worry BMW is very good at keeping records. I would however request something in writing that BMWFS is aware of the issue.

Bottom line is don’t worry, enjoy the car, it is after all only borrowed and turn it back in and get a new one in a few years...from a different dealer.
 
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