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Searches I've done seem to be a little bit dated on this subject, so my apologies if this discussion is more extensive than my search would suggest...

I'm about to pull the trigger on a Passport 9500ix. It's not the big money stealth kit, but I will be doing a proper installation so that no wiring is exposed.

A friend of mine uses the Passport and loves it, and from what I've seen while riding in his car it seems like a great unit. I've heard that the only real benefit of the V1 over the Passport is the directional arrow feature which I don't really care about. I get the impression that the two are relatively equal in performance and choosing one over the other won't ruin my day.

Can anyone provide their own experience and/or opinion on this unit? I've all but made my mind up but some input from my fellows here would be helpful.
 

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I scored a 9500IX last week from this very board and like it. I like that it learns and it has a GPS database, something that the V1 does not have. But, again, these are my initial impressions. I've passed a few LEOs (they were driving on the road as well) and the thing didn't chirp, but it's possible that they didn't have their radar on. I've taken it to a few speed radars around my town and the thing worked perfectly alerting me with plenty of time.

I also like the "mark" GPS feature, which alerts you that you're approaching the spot that you previously marked.

The V1 is legendary but the features of the 9500IX won be over.
 

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I love my V1, but you are correct, outside of the directional arrows it is just a fine radar unit. Taking it one step further, it is just a fine radar unit built on old technology. Passport is developing a whole new web platform with it's downloadable database of traffic cameras and a unit with gps that can learn and upload.

Go for the passport and don't look back.

And while I might not miss the directional arrows [ok, i might] what I'd *really* miss is the Stealth1 integration...
 

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The location marking and red light camera features on my friend's Escort are nice, but I don't believe I could do w/o the bogey counter and arrows on the Valentine.
 

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The location marking and red light camera features on my friend's Escort are nice, but I don't believe I could do w/o the bogey counter and arrows on the Valentine.
You get a bogey counter on the Escort
 

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Another vote for the 9500ix. Had it for 3 months and it's saved me numerous times.
 
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I am afraid I vote for the V1. It is so nice to know whether the signal is coming from behind or in front.

I am still hoping that they start building GPS into the V1. It has been so long since it has really evolved.
 

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If you do a lot of highway driving the V1 is substantially more sensitive and responsive than the Escort, but if you spend your time in the city then the 9500ix will provide exponentially fewer falses and otherwise similar performance.
If you want GPS, the ix and it's Bel clone the GX65 are your best options. If you do not specifically want a GPS-enabled detector and all the functionality that brings, there's simply no reason to consider the 9500. Purely as a radar detector it is no better than the 8500 series that's now going on 10-years old. Grab a refurbed 8500 or 8500 X50 from the Escort store on eBay if you want a very good detector for $200 and don't care about GPS. If you want pure performance in a windshield-mount(ie. not remotely mounted) detector, the V1 and Escort Redline are at the top of the heap.

I picked up a 9500ix not too long ago and am still trying to get the GPS chip to "see" satellites through the IR-reflective Climate glass in my E38. It's a great detector, but has a completely different personality than the V1. I keep the Valentine in the Beast as it fits the character of the car more :M5rev:
 

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V1 and stealth one kit hands down. Reads out on cluster and nav screen: BIG FONT with band, strength and direction...Wire it into switched power in overhead, program it to be silent below say 30 and you are off to the races...
 

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I have own both and my opinion hands down is the V1, yes it is a bit more antiquated and yes it's not invisible to the "radar-detector-detector" but the arrows and sensitivity really makes up for it.

9500ix is also a great detector and it out shines V1 if you live in areas with a lot of automatic doors that triggers the radar detector. A little bit of where you live and what type of commute you do will help the decision making.

Another debatable thing to watch for is something called "QT - Quick Trigger", is a method that few LEOs practice. It's essentially a technique to obtain your speed with a short burst of radar that make it very difficult to detect, general consensus is that V1 outperforms anything on this category.

This article below is a good read as well:
Radar Detector Tests and Reviews by Guys of LIDAR - Radar Detector Test 2009
 

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I'm a big fan of the K40 units, mainly because they're permanently installed which means they're covered by insurance and much harder to steal. The sensitivity is slightly less than a V1 (I've had both in the same car before), but I don't have to worry about hiding it when I park somewhere besides my garage.
 

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Love my V1 hardwired and in both the M5 and the Yukon. Never lets me down, simplicity and directional. Once you know how to interpret the signals it is crystal clear. I can't say I have tried any of the other GPS based as I am not a city speeder. I get gentle persuation by an off-road riding buddy towards the RockyMountain Radar Dectector/Scrambler RMR-C475 - Rocky Mountain Radar | Radar Detectors, Radar Scramblers . He organzied a group buy with 15 other guys and apparently this is a good unit. I still highly recommend the V1 and will consider installing counter-measures front and back if laser becomes a bigger problem.
 

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the V1, it's not invisible to the "radar-detector-detector"

I thought just the opposite, it was one of the best. Source for lack of invisibility? Thanks.
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from Valentine One Radar Detector - E3

The Valentine1 is "7) 100% invisible to VG-2, VG-4, Spectre II radar detector detectors; 75% invisible to Spectre III, Spectre IV and Stalcar (used in AU and NZ) radar detector detectors"
 
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The M3 platform Belscorts (STi, Redline, etc.) are the only detectors with an antenna and local oscillator design "quiet" enough to generally be considered nearly undetectable by RDDs. VG2 is comparatively ancient and a non-issue for almost any modern detector, but the newest Spectre III and IV models have no trouble sniffing out Valentines and any other non-M3 detectors at useful ranges. Then again, unless you live in VA or DC RDD invisibility is a debateably useless feature anyway.
 
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+1 on the V-1

I've used both a V-1 and an escort 9500. I'd say it really depends on where you live and what type of driving you do.

The escorts with the GPS are great if you live in areas with high red light and/or fixed radar positions (assuming you update the database frequently). DC and MD do use photo radar and red light cameras, VA does not. Both the V-1 and Escort alert to the photo radar well before you are in range, but only the escort can warn you of a red light camera (not an issue in VA).

The V-1 seems to have better range on the highway and the directional arrows really do help spot traps. It isn't invisible to the Specter IV, but I think most tests show you have to be within 300 feet or so to get picked up. DC & VA are the only areas where radar detectors are illegal in passenger cars so not really an issue for the vast majority of you.

For what it is worth, I still use a V-1, even in VA because I like the highway range and directional arrows. If they would ever add the GPS functionality and specter immunity, then would be hands down V-1 in my opinion.
 

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I've owned my V1 for 8 years now and its been in 5 different cars. Its paid for itself 10 fold. Up until the M5 i've run it with the concealed display and now I have the stealth one for it. It saved me twice in a recent trip from Raleigh, NC to Virgina Beach. One in NC and one in VA.
 

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V1 is great, but technology to laser and the only one who updated their side is passport.
 

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I have a V1 and I have to say that I am very satisfied with it. I've gad it for about a year now and it has saved me every time. I love the directional arrows, they help a lot. I would recommend it but then again I havent tried any other radar detectors.
 
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