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Hi,

I just purchased a 2001 and love it. I'm thinking about a radar detector, and like the idea of a seamless installation. I'm told Valentine makes a good radar detector, but my car guy tells me it'll be $2700 total installed.

That's a ton of money in my opinion. I've got some questions:

Is Valentine the best?
Is the mirror display better than the dash display?
Can I intstall myself? I'm a handy guy but I'm no auto electronics expert.
If you suggest I install myself and I go with the dash display (the mirror itself is $800 so I think I'd go dash), what do I need to buy? I see a few things on beastpower.com but am confused.

Any help is appreciated, thanks.
 

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I've had mine since '98 and I'll never buy another kind. I have an Escort in my Range Rover (it's great too, but I like the arrows). I have mine on the visor and hard-wired in the overhead console. It's not 100% stealth but I didn't see the $800 for the rear-view, and if I want I can easily take it out and use it in a different car if I want (which I have used it in the Rover on a long trip over the Escort).
 

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Congratulations on purchasing your 01 M5. Good idea to get the best R.D. on the market today.
The $2,700.00 someone wants you to spend is unrealistic because a Valentine One, Stealth One module and the Lidatek LE30 only cost $1,000.00 plus shipping and installation.
Go to the Valentine One website: http://www.valentine1.com/
The unit costs: $399.00 plus shipping.

Secondly go to the Stealth One website: http://www.jaricdesign.com/products.htm
Buy the remote module for $199.00 plus shipping.

Lastly, the Lidatek LE-30 site is: http://www.lidatek.com/
The LE-30 unit is $399.00 plus shipping.

Plan to spend 2 hours wiring the Stealth One unit into your Beast and maybe another 3 hours installing the LE-30. I'm not an electrical engineer or tech, but the instructions are very clear.

The worst case is you find a local reputable audio shop that can easily install the Stealth One and LE-30.

I hard wired V-1's in my three current vehicles and have not regretted shelling out for these insurance policies for one moment.
The Stealth One display in the M5 is so well thought out that it is a bargain for $200.00.

I hope this helps.
 

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This thread makes me wonder. Where do others have their Valentine's mounted in their car. Mine is mounted on the suction cup holder just under the driver's side visor, just to the left of the sunroof motor hump. The couple of issues I have with this location is that it gets in the way a little when I want to lower my visor. I've thought of putting it on the passenger's side, but the problem there is that my wife actually uses her visor a little more than I do, so I don't think she'd be too thrilled with that location.

Any other thoughts? I still want ot be able to move the valentine from my car ot my wife's on occasion, so mounting it in the sunroof motor housing isn't that attractive.

Thanks
Ben
 

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Ben that's my issue as well. I put it on the passenger side visor since I seldom have a passenger in the BMW. If it is going to be a problem I carry the suction cups in the glove box and the standard plug where I can quickly pull it down from the visor and use it in the "normal" portable way if necessary.

Otherwise I try to always drive west in the morning and east in the afternoon :1:
 

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howler said:
Congratulations on purchasing your 01 M5. Good idea to get the best R.D. on the market today.
The $2,700.00 someone wants you to spend is unrealistic because a Valentine One, Stealth One module and the Lidatek LE30 only cost $1,000.00 plus shipping and installation.
Go to the Valentine One website: http://www.valentine1.com/
The unit costs: $399.00 plus shipping.

Secondly go to the Stealth One website: http://www.jaricdesign.com/products.htm
Buy the remote module for $199.00 plus shipping.

Lastly, the Lidatek LE-30 site is: http://www.lidatek.com/
The LE-30 unit is $399.00 plus shipping.
Nice detection setup Bob, I really like the Stealth One. I have installed a Valentine One by itself in a Benz for a guy and he loves it.

Thanks for the info
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You need a new "car guy"...

He is either ignorant or ripping you off. How you can go from a $399 valentine V1 to $2700 is quite a mystery.

Forget the mirror remote- the stealth one remote is a digital interface from the V1 to the dash display.

I seem to recall quite a few how-to posts here on the installs...

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Valentine1/StealthOne is the way to go. BeastPower sells them a little cheaper than getting it directly from the vendor. The wiring was pretty easy for the StealthOne, about 2 hrs total.
I agree V1 is the way to go:M5rev:
 

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Another vote in favor of the Valentine. Mine is hardwired, and I'm using the windshield mount to the right of the r/view mirror. While the Stealth One kit looks neat, in my opinion it doesn't accomplish all that much because you still need to mount the V-1 somewhere visible (not counting the option of hiding it in the headliner, etc., and compromising it's performance). If there was a kit that concealed the V-1 as well, I'd be all over it. But for now, I'm perfectly content to glance over at the unit to see the arrows when I get an audio warning that sounds real.
 

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Valentine's definitely the way to go. And it's upgradable! This is my hardwired location.. it works perfectly, and when I use the BMW front sunshade, it just tilts upward as well. Doesn't get in the way of my visor.

 

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Here's one vote for the Passport 8500/ZR3 Laser Shifter combination. I like the fact that the Laser Jammer feed is connected directly into the Radar Detector readout. Not sure about NY, but in CT Laser seems to be more of a problem than Radar.
 

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Everybody's got an opinion, but K-40 offers 100% protection and 100% guarantee. No fine print. You get a ticket...they pay for it! They have 2 stipulations 1) No DUI/DWI involvement 2) No school zone.

The other detectors have small print ie, "will not pay for ticket if more than 10mph over posted speed limit"
100% Stealth installation. 100% protection. 100% guarantee. This baby will cost you $1399-$1899 INSTALLED (depending on dealer & vehicle). And "NO" I don't work for them nor am I a spokesman. I am a satisfied customer. I have had k-40 installed in all my vehicles for years and after my friends have seen it in action, they have had it installed in their vehicles as well.

K-40 has saved my *** countless times. I have not had a ticket since installation.

Like I said, everybody's got an opinion, and I got mine. But my opinion is backed by a product that gives 100% protection, 100% guarantee, and COMPLETELY STEALTH. That is why I can say "K-40 (model K-40 2000) stealth system is BY FAR the best available."

Check it out here

Also, go here , scroll to the bottom of the page and check out the test reports. I especially like the EURO-TUNER test report using an M5

Robert
 

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1badm5 said:
Like I said, everybody's got an opinion, and I got mine. But my opinion is backed by a product that gives 100% protection, 100% guarantee, and COMPLETELY STEALTH. That is why I can say "K-40 (model K-40 2000) stealth system is BY FAR the best available."
Personally, I'd have to disagree.

Yes, the totally stealth thing is nice but you can accomplish that with the V1 if you add a Stealthone and Lidatek system to it and mount the V1 in the headliner.

And the V1 is a better radar detection system. The K40 Undetectable systems that I've had are so sensitive that they NEVER stop falsing, to the point that I totally ignored the constant beeping. The V1 gives better range and much more accurate information from my experiences.

Chalk me up as a Valentine supporter.
 

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I have an Escort Solo S2. For about $300, it does the job pretty well. It runs off batteries, making it completely and easily mobile. And, no wires to attract the fuzzes attention. I think range and detection are as good as any other detector. When instant on is used "properly" it's hard to beat the MAN.

Also, with those detectors that pay for speeding tickets, I don't like that b/c I either plead no contest, deferred adjudication or take the drivers safety class. I dont care about the speeding ticket, it's the points on insurance that hurt!

Good luck with it.
 

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I have an Escort Solo S2. For about $300, it does the job pretty well. It runs off batteries, making it completely and easily mobile. ...
I was a "Cincinatti Microwave" (Escort) fan since the original "Escort" was sold in the 80's. Late last year before buying my M5 I tried the newest Passport AND the newest Solo you mention - and sent them both back.

The Passport is a bit "chunky" and hard to mount. The automute feature doesn't work too well BUT the detection range and discretion from false alarms seemed good.

The Solo seemed to me to have remarkably lower sensitivity (less range), the batteries drained quickly and the LCD screen was difficult (or impossible) to read.

Thier older stuff was SO MUCH better.

So I bought a V1 for the first time, was leery and afraid I'd end up sending it back too. But fortunately I was very pleased - sensitivity as good or better than the Passport, better size (more quality build too IMHO), the arrows really grow on you, better false alarm discretion than any detector I've owned, and best of all you can get the STEALTHONE and your alerts display on your instrument panel below your speedometer!

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V1 is definitely the way to go. I was hesitant to spend so much money for the unit as I do not generally go beyond the flow of traffic. However, after getting the unit I could not believe how well it worked. It has saved me from radar traps and from troopers coming up from behind in a moving car. I recommeded V1 to a friend and he too could not believe how well it worked.


I have not purchased stealth one b/c my 97 m3 will not accpet the unit plus I hope to be getting an M5 soon.

I currently mount my just like TXE39 but on the driver side. It is a little tough to see b/c I sit rather close to the wheel and have to look up slighlty to see the direction of the radar but I can still catch the road in front of me out of the corner of my eye.

If you search this board and roadfly there was a post from a 540i where he was able to place the unit in the headliner just behind the windshield. the look was perfect but affected the sensitivity of the unit since the unit was behind the cloth headliner.

My .02 cents worth.
 

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I also am a dedicated V1 user. Have one in each of my three vehicles. For around town driving I use velcro to secure the V1 to the center (or just left of center toward the driver) of the dashboard. Performs great for radar detection and is "stealthy" in that it is not as visible to the outside world as windshield and visor mounting. Also this allows easy view of the arrows, type of radar being setected, etc. When mounted on visor it is harder to see without looking up from the road. When travelling on the highway I use the windshield mount centered on the windshield (l to right and top to bottom). Again important (IMO) to locate so view of road is not blocked and you do not have to take your eyes off the road. So far I have not had the need to a stealth mounting of the V1. Mounting on the dashboard makes it easy to remove when not in the vehicle, and it can easily be moved to another vehicle.

Concerning laser, when I get my lidatek's installed it will basically be stealth as that is the basic installation procedure/process.

When mounting the V1 - or any detector - on the windshield, some states in the US have a law about blocking the drivers view through the windshield. Mounting anything on the windshield and hanging things from the mirror could result in a ticket.
 

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Valentine recommends that the detector be mounted as high as possible for the best range/results. I would shy away from visor mounts and just put it up as close to the mirror as possible.
 
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