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Discussion Starter · #1 · (Edited)
Hi,

Today I was replacing my ABS sensors , in order to find out what causes my ABS/DSC/brake light (on four wheels, 32€ each so I replaced all of them :D ). And it was not the sensors... (still no speedo after warm start, and ABS/DSC/brake lights still on)

When I was replacing the front right sensor (passenger side), the scew tried to run away from me and I had to crawl under the car to reach it. There I saw... my engine, my gearbox and my oil pan !! There were no protection panels like on these pics : http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/e3...188-ss-header-install-help-4.html#post2012434

I also don't have the panel right under the hood (I always asked myself what were these little bits of plastic who seemed they were locking on something that was not here...), like on the first pic here : http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/e39-m5-e52-z8-discussion/161197-p-s-flush-diy-pics-added.html

Do you know where I can find these parts (all necessary part numbers ?) ? Or is it better to go to a dealer ?
 

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How is your brake fluid reservoir level? Did you get error codes read?

I updated the Sticky FAQ with "Parts diagrams". There you can browse and find the panels:
Air duct BMW 5' E39, M5 (S62)

You may find them new online, used in junkyards. Check the For Sale area for part out vehicles too.

Thank you for pointing out the P/S fluid link. I added that to the DIY Guidepost.
 

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A friend who helped me with the sensors noticed a blue liquid on the front left wheel axle (driver side). I will check the level tomorrow, it started raining just after we have done the 4 sensors, I must have a leak somewhere.

Peake code same as in the knowledge base : http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/e3...e-base-peake-codes-e39-m5-51.html#post2017214

8b Cruise control system
75 servotronic speed signal
2a Vehicule speed input signal, hardwire "A" signal
87 Vehicule speed signals (Both Discrete & CAN)
27 AfterCat oxygen sensor 1 heater control
25 PreCat oxygen sensor 1 heater control
Hmm, I don't have 2A anymore, only 8b, 87, 75, 25, 27

Question : Is there a panel under the box where the O2 sensors are connected ?

Thanks for the link, I didn't know in which part group the panels were on realoem.

Edit : Ok there is a panel... (2 in fact !!) Man, I have a lot of things to buy :crying: I think I will go to the dealer or I will forgot something :D
Thank you !!
 

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ATE makes a blue brake fluid, so it could be that.

For 25/27, have you changed your 4 O2 sensors? The rest are beyond my level of knowledge.

For your question, I think the answer is no. You can check the O2 sensor jobs in the DIY Guidepost for pictures.

Here is realoem's panel URL:
RealOEM.com   BMW E39 M5 Air duct
 

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Apparently, there is no panel under the O2 sensors (This DIY sticky is so useful !!).

I don't think this is ATE Super Blue, but if it is, I have some in stock to top up, but I will have to find where the leak is. The indy shop, that the owner I bought the car from choose, did a very dirty job, but the job is still under warranty (for 12 months), so I will call them to ask where are my panels :D

For 25/27, Raikku said (in another thread) that it's possible that they connected the pre/post O2 sensors together... And based on the job done on the car, it's not impossible that it's the case :D The O2 sensors on the driver side (LHD) are working correctly.
 

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Ok, I'm resurrecting this thread as winter is coming, with snow, salt etc...

I'm missing the panels under the engine, gearbox and left/right panels next to the gearbox.

According to the schema below, I have to order :


9, 7 L/R, 19, 17 L/R

Am I missing anything? Nuts,washers,screw,rivets?

RealOEM.com * BMW E39 M5 Air duct

<table border="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><th class="r0">No.</th><th class="r1">Description</th><th class="r0">Supplement</th><th class="r1" nowrap="nowrap">Qty</th><th class="r0" nowrap="nowrap"> From </th><th class="r1" nowrap="nowrap"> Up To </th><th class="r0" nowrap="nowrap">Part Number</th><th class="r1" nowrap="nowrap">Price</th><th class="r0" nowrap="nowrap">Notes</th><th class="r1"> Photo</th></tr><tr><td class="r00">01</td><td class="r01">FRONT AIR DUCT</td><td class="r00 p1">
</td><td class="r01">1</td><td class="r00">
</td><td class="r01">
</td><td class="r00" nowrap="nowrap">51712498939</td><td class="r01" align="right" nowrap="nowrap">$78.83</td><td class="r00">
</td><td><center></center>
</td></tr><tr><td class="r10">02</td><td class="r11">FRONT LEFT AIR DUCT COVER</td><td class="r10 p1">
</td><td class="r11">1</td><td class="r10">
</td><td class="r11">
</td><td class="r10" nowrap="nowrap">51718162561</td><td class="r11" align="right" nowrap="nowrap">$1.85</td><td class="r10">
</td><td><center></center>
</td></tr><tr><td class="r00">02</td><td class="r01">FRONT RIGHT AIR DUCT COVER</td><td class="r00 p1">
</td><td class="r01">1</td><td class="r00">
</td><td class="r01">
</td><td class="r00" nowrap="nowrap">51718162562</td><td class="r01" align="right" nowrap="nowrap">$1.85</td><td class="r00">
</td><td><center></center>
</td></tr><tr><td class="r10">07</td><td class="r11">LATERAL LEFT ENGINE COMPARTM.SCREENING</td><td class="r10 p1">
</td><td class="r11">1</td><td class="r10">
</td><td class="r11">
</td><td class="r10" nowrap="nowrap">51712694897</td><td class="r11" align="right" nowrap="nowrap">
</td><td class="r10">
</td><td><center></center>
</td></tr><tr><td class="r00">07</td><td class="r01">LATERAL RIGHT ENGINE COMPARTM.SCREENING</td><td class="r00 p1">
</td><td class="r01">1</td><td class="r00">
</td><td class="r01">
</td><td class="r00" nowrap="nowrap">51712694898</td><td class="r01" align="right" nowrap="nowrap">
</td><td class="r00">
</td><td><center></center>
</td></tr><tr><td class="r10">07</td><td class="r11">LATERAL LEFT ENGINE COMPARTM.SCREENING</td><td class="r10 p1">
</td><td class="r11">1</td><td class="r10">
</td><td class="r11">
</td><td class="r10" nowrap="nowrap">51717892297</td><td class="r11" align="right" nowrap="nowrap">$35.80</td><td class="r10">
</td><td><center></center>
</td></tr><tr><td class="r00">07</td><td class="r01">LATERAL RIGHT ENGINE COMPARTM.SCREENING</td><td class="r00 p1">
</td><td class="r01">1</td><td class="r00">
</td><td class="r01">
</td><td class="r00" nowrap="nowrap">51717892298</td><td class="r01" align="right" nowrap="nowrap">$35.80</td><td class="r00">
</td><td><center></center>
</td></tr><tr><td class="r10">08</td><td class="r11">Clamp</td><td class="r10 p1">
</td><td class="r11">?</td><td class="r10">
</td><td class="r11">
</td><td class="r10" nowrap="nowrap">51718176503</td><td class="r11" align="right" nowrap="nowrap">$1.26</td><td class="r10">
</td><td><center><="" a=""></center></td></tr><tr><td class="r00">09</td><td class="r01 i0">Engine compartment screening, front</td><td class="r00 p1">
</td><td class="r01">1</td><td class="r00">
</td><td class="r01">01/1999</td><td class="r00" nowrap="nowrap">51712498988</td><td class="r01" align="right" nowrap="nowrap">$197.55</td><td class="r00">
</td><td><center></center>
</td></tr><tr><td class="r00">
</td><td class="r01" nowrap="nowrap">only in conjunction with</td><td class="r00">
</td><td colspan="7">
</td></tr> <tr><td class="r10">--</td><td class="r11 i0">LATERAL LEFT ENGINE COMPARTM.SCREENING</td><td class="r10 p1">
</td><td class="r11">1</td><td class="r10">
</td><td class="r11">01/1999</td><td class="r10" nowrap="nowrap">51717892297</td><td class="r11" align="right" nowrap="nowrap">$35.80</td><td class="r10">
</td><td><center></center>
</td></tr><tr><td class="r00">--</td><td class="r01 i0">LATERAL RIGHT ENGINE COMPARTM.SCREENING</td><td class="r00 p1">
</td><td class="r01">1</td><td class="r00">
</td><td class="r01">01/1999</td><td class="r00" nowrap="nowrap">51717892298</td><td class="r01" align="right" nowrap="nowrap">$35.80</td><td class="r00">
</td><td><center></center>
</td></tr><tr><td class="r10">10</td><td class="r11">Screw plug</td><td class="r10 p1">L=13.5MM</td><td class="r11">?</td><td class="r10">
</td><td class="r11">
</td><td class="r10" nowrap="nowrap">51718218323</td><td class="r11" align="right" nowrap="nowrap">$1.95</td><td class="r10">
</td><td><center></center>
</td></tr><tr><td class="r00">10</td><td class="r01">Screw plug</td><td class="r00 p1">L=16MM</td><td class="r01">2</td><td class="r00">
</td><td class="r01">
</td><td class="r00" nowrap="nowrap">51718218852</td><td class="r01" align="right" nowrap="nowrap">$2.08</td><td class="r00">
</td><td><center></center>
</td></tr><tr><td class="r10">11</td><td class="r11">Circlip</td><td class="r10 p1">
</td><td class="r11">?</td><td class="r10">
</td><td class="r11">
</td><td class="r10" nowrap="nowrap">51718195383</td><td class="r11" align="right" nowrap="nowrap">$0.32</td><td class="r10">
</td><td><center></center>
</td></tr><tr><td class="r00">12</td><td class="r01">Washer</td><td class="r00 p1">
</td><td class="r01">?</td><td class="r00">
</td><td class="r01">
</td><td class="r00" nowrap="nowrap">51718176504</td><td class="r01" align="right" nowrap="nowrap">$0.32</td><td class="r00">
</td><td><center></center>
</td></tr><tr><td class="r10">13</td><td class="r11">Cover, engine compartment screening</td><td class="r10 p1">
</td><td class="r11">1</td><td class="r10">
</td><td class="r11">
</td><td class="r10" nowrap="nowrap">51718159982</td><td class="r11" align="right" nowrap="nowrap">$35.68</td><td class="r10">
</td><td><center></center>
</td></tr><tr><td class="r00">14</td><td class="r01 i0">LOWER LEFT ENGINE COMPARTMENT COVER</td><td class="r00 p1">
</td><td class="r01">1</td><td class="r00">
</td><td class="r01">
</td><td class="r00" nowrap="nowrap">51712498989</td><td class="r01" align="right" nowrap="nowrap">$106.38</td><td class="r00">
</td><td><center><="" a=""></center></td></tr><tr><td class="r00">
</td><td class="r01" nowrap="nowrap">without brake air channel</td><td class="r00">
</td><td colspan="7">
</td></tr> <tr><td class="r10">14</td><td class="r11 i0">LOWER RIGHT ENGINE COMPARTMENT COVER</td><td class="r10 p1">
</td><td class="r11">1</td><td class="r10">
</td><td class="r11">
</td><td class="r10" nowrap="nowrap">51712498990</td><td class="r11" align="right" nowrap="nowrap">$108.65</td><td class="r10">
</td><td><center></center>
</td></tr><tr><td class="r10">
</td><td class="r11" nowrap="nowrap">without brake air channel</td><td class="r10">
</td><td colspan="7">
</td></tr> <tr><td class="r00">15</td><td class="r01">Body nut</td><td class="r00 p1">ST4,8-11</td><td class="r01">6</td><td class="r00">
</td><td class="r01">09/2003</td><td class="r00" nowrap="nowrap">07129925731</td><td class="r01" align="right" nowrap="nowrap">
</td><td class="r00">ENDED</td><td><center><="" a=""></center></td></tr><tr><td class="r10">15</td><td class="r11">Body nut</td><td class="r10 p1">4,8</td><td class="r11">6</td><td class="r10">
</td><td class="r11">
</td><td class="r10" nowrap="nowrap">07129904217</td><td class="r11" align="right" nowrap="nowrap">$0.25</td><td class="r10">
</td><td><center></center>
</td></tr><tr><td class="r00">16</td><td class="r01">Hex head screw</td><td class="r00 p1">ST4,8X16-C-Z2</td><td class="r01">6</td><td class="r00">
</td><td class="r01">
</td><td class="r00" nowrap="nowrap">07119916946</td><td class="r01" align="right" nowrap="nowrap">
</td><td class="r00">ENDED</td><td><center></center>
</td></tr><tr><td class="r10">16</td><td class="r11">Hex head screw</td><td class="r10 p1">ST4,8X16-ZNS</td><td class="r11">6</td><td class="r10">
</td><td class="r11">
</td><td class="r10" nowrap="nowrap">07119901294</td><td class="r11" align="right" nowrap="nowrap">
</td><td class="r10">ENDED</td><td><center></center>
</td></tr><tr><td class="r00">16</td><td class="r01">Hex head screw</td><td class="r00 p1">ST4,8X16-ZNS3</td><td class="r01">6</td><td class="r00">
</td><td class="r01">
</td><td class="r00" nowrap="nowrap">07119901299</td><td class="r01" align="right" nowrap="nowrap">$0.25</td><td class="r00">
</td><td><center><="" a=""></center></td></tr><tr><td class="r10">17</td><td class="r11">Covering outer left</td><td class="r10 p1">
</td><td class="r11">1</td><td class="r10">
</td><td class="r11">
</td><td class="r10" nowrap="nowrap">51718176757</td><td class="r11" align="right" nowrap="nowrap">$58.32</td><td class="r10">
</td><td><center></center>
</td></tr><tr><td class="r00">17</td><td class="r01">Covering outer right</td><td class="r00 p1">
</td><td class="r01">1</td><td class="r00">
</td><td class="r01">
</td><td class="r00" nowrap="nowrap">51718158060</td><td class="r01" align="right" nowrap="nowrap">$58.32</td><td class="r00">
</td><td><center></center>
</td></tr><tr><td class="r10">18</td><td class="r11">Body nut</td><td class="r10 p1">D=30MM, ZNS3</td><td class="r11">4</td><td class="r10">
</td><td class="r11">
</td><td class="r10" nowrap="nowrap">07146949380</td><td class="r11" align="right" nowrap="nowrap">$0.44</td><td class="r10">
</td><td><center><="" a=""></center></td></tr><tr><td class="r00">19</td><td class="r01 i0">Underfloor coating</td><td class="r00 p1">
</td><td class="r01">1</td><td class="r00">
</td><td class="r01">
</td><td class="r00" nowrap="nowrap">51712498987</td><td class="r01" align="right" nowrap="nowrap">$218.97</td><td class="r00">
</td><td><center></center>
</td></tr><tr><td class="r00">
</td><td class="r01" nowrap="nowrap">In some cases this part must be
modified to fit vehicle.</td><td class="r00">
</td><td colspan="7">
</td></tr> <tr><td class="r10">20</td><td class="r11">Bracket underfloor panelling, left</td><td class="r10 p1">
</td><td class="r11">1</td><td class="r10">
</td><td class="r11">
</td><td class="r10" nowrap="nowrap">51712695699</td><td class="r11" align="right" nowrap="nowrap">$25.58</td><td class="r10">
</td><td><center></center>
</td></tr><tr><td class="r00">20</td><td class="r01">Bracket underfloor panelling, right</td><td class="r00 p1">
</td><td class="r01">1</td><td class="r00">
</td><td class="r01">
</td><td class="r00" nowrap="nowrap">51712695700</td><td class="r01" align="right" nowrap="nowrap">$25.58</td><td class="r00">
</td><td><center></center>
</td></tr><tr><td class="r10">23</td><td class="r11">UPPER LEFT ENGINE COMPARTMENT COVER</td><td class="r10 p1">
</td><td class="r11">1</td><td class="r10">
</td><td class="r11">
</td><td class="r10" nowrap="nowrap">51712499999</td><td class="r11" align="right" nowrap="nowrap">$18.46</td><td class="r10">
</td><td><center></center>
</td></tr><tr><td class="r00">23</td><td class="r01">UPPER RIGHT ENGINE COMPARTMENT COVER</td><td class="r00 p1">
</td><td class="r01">1</td><td class="r00">
</td><td class="r01">
</td><td class="r00" nowrap="nowrap">51717016562</td><td class="r01" align="right" nowrap="nowrap">$10.65</td><td class="r00">
</td><td><center></center>
</td></tr><tr><td class="r10">24</td><td class="r11">Expanding rivet</td><td class="r10 p1">SCHWARZ</td><td class="r11">?</td><td class="r10">
</td><td class="r11">
</td><td class="r10" nowrap="nowrap">51498166702</td><td class="r11" align="right" nowrap="nowrap">$0.37</td><td class="r10">
</td><td><center><="" a=""></center></td></tr><tr><td class="r00">25</td><td class="r01">LEFT FRONT PANEL SUPPORT SEALING</td><td class="r00 p1">
</td><td class="r01">1</td><td class="r00">
</td><td class="r01">
</td><td class="r00" nowrap="nowrap">51718218853</td><td class="r01" align="right" nowrap="nowrap">$21.22</td><td class="r00">
</td><td><center></center>
</td></tr><tr><td class="r10">25</td><td class="r11">RIGHT FRONT PANEL SUPPORT SEALING</td><td class="r10 p1">
</td><td class="r11">1</td><td class="r10">
</td><td class="r11">
</td><td class="r10" nowrap="nowrap">51718218854</td><td class="r11" align="right" nowrap="nowrap">$21.22</td><td class="r10">
</td><td><center></center>
</td></tr><tr><td class="r00">26</td><td class="r01">REAR LEFT ENGINE SUPPORT COVER</td><td class="r00 p1">
</td><td class="r01">1</td><td class="r00">07/1996</td><td class="r01">
</td><td class="r00" nowrap="nowrap">51718222131</td><td class="r01" align="right" nowrap="nowrap">$6.12</td><td class="r00">
</td><td><center></center>
</td></tr><tr><td class="r10">26</td><td class="r11">REAR RIGHT ENGINE SUPPORT COVER</td><td class="r10 p1">
</td><td class="r11">1</td><td class="r10">07/1996</td><td class="r11">
</td><td class="r10" nowrap="nowrap">51718222132</td><td class="r11" align="right" nowrap="nowrap">$6.12</td><td class="r10">
</td><td><center></center>
</td></tr><tr><td class="r00">27</td><td class="r01">Expanding rivet</td><td class="r00 p1">
</td><td class="r01">2</td><td class="r00">
</td><td class="r01">
</td><td class="r00" nowrap="nowrap">51718229000</td><td class="r01" align="right" nowrap="nowrap">$0.63</td><td class="r00">
</td><td><center></center>
</td></tr><tr><td class="r10">30</td><td class="r11">Expanding rivet</td><td class="r10 p1">
</td><td class="r11">4</td><td class="r10">
</td><td class="r11">
</td><td class="r10" nowrap="nowrap">51718229003</td><td class="r11" align="right" nowrap="nowrap">$0.45</td><td class="r10">
</td><td><center><="" a=""></center></td></tr><tr><td class="r00">31</td><td class="r01">LEFT ENGINE COMPARTM.PROTECTION BRACKET</td><td class="r00 p1">
</td><td class="r01">1</td><td class="r00">
</td><td class="r01">
</td><td class="r00" nowrap="nowrap">51712695687</td><td class="r01" align="right" nowrap="nowrap">
</td><td class="r00">
</td><td><center></center>
</td></tr><tr><td class="r10">31</td><td class="r11">RIGHT ENGINE COMPARTM.PROTECTION BRACKET</td><td class="r10 p1">
</td><td class="r11">1</td><td class="r10">
</td><td class="r11">
</td><td class="r10" nowrap="nowrap">51712695688</td><td class="r11" align="right" nowrap="nowrap">
</td><td class="r10">
</td></tr></tbody></table>
 

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Discussion Starter · #7 · (Edited)
Oh, and all my codes a cleared, no more errors.

- ABS module changed
- ABS and car recoded (cluster was not coded o_O)
- Passenger side O2 sensors were connected together.
- My missing pixels are back when my alarm went off randomly a few times last friday (battery problem?), I don't know where they were :D
 
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