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Will BMW make a M5 Hybrid? I think it would be pretty slick...like the Lexus LS600h. It would probably cost an arm and 2 legs but at least, we could get 18 mpg ouichinstead of 12 mpg. Hehehe

Just looking ahead...
 

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That would completely defeat the purpose of owning an M5.
 

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Be sure you do the research before buying a current technology hybrid. Think about the batteries too. They have an ecological impact. And don't do it for financial reasons. Even at $4 per gallon, break even can easily be 5 years.
 
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Will BMW make a M5 Hybrid? I think it would be pretty slick...like the Lexus LS600h. It would probably cost an arm and 2 legs but at least, we could get 18 mpg ouichinstead of 12 mpg. Hehehe

Just looking ahead...

Yes I believe so but not a traditional Hybrid like Toyota makes (kinetic energy to electricity to kinetic energy).

I think BMW will use much more efficient kinetic energy recovery systems in the transmission.

Look to next season's F1 cars, they will have KER technology, BMW will adapt that for the road.
 

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Hybrids are awesome!

Be sure you do the research before buying a current technology hybrid. Think about the batteries too. They have an ecological impact. And don't do it for financial reasons. Even at $4 per gallon, break even can easily be 5 years.
It's a matter of perspective.

We got rid of an ML55 and into a 06 Civic Hybrid Navi. It started paying off immediately.

Today, I can sell my car for almost exactly what I paid for it 2.5 years ago... Dealers are offering $17k on a trade.

There's no doubt about it... hybrids are hot right now, and CNN just did a news bit on dealers who say there is a 0 day sales cycle for hybrids. AND markup is up to 5k on top of sticker...

Finally, as far as the ecological impact:

http://www.treehugger.com/files/2005/06/should_we_be_wo_1.php
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http://digg.com/autos/What_happens_to_a_Tesla_Electric_Car_battery_when_it_s_dead
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http://www.google.com/search?q=what+happens+to+batteries+when+they+are+dead&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
 

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It's a matter of perspective.

We got rid of an ML55 and into a 06 Civic Hybrid Navi. It started paying off immediately.

Today, I can sell my car for almost exactly what I paid for it 2.5 years ago... Dealers are offering $17k on a trade.

There's no doubt about it... hybrids are hot right now, and CNN just did a news bit on dealers who say there is a 0 day sales cycle for hybrids. AND markup is up to 5k on top of sticker...

Finally, as far as the ecological impact:

http://www.treehugger.com/files/2005/06/should_we_be_wo_1.php
and
http://digg.com/autos/What_happens_to_a_Tesla_Electric_Car_battery_when_it_s_dead
and
http://www.google.com/search?q=what+happens+to+batteries+when+they+are+dead&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

After is sold my 2002 M3, I picked up my 2008 M5 and in my family, we had 2 gas guzzling machines, a M5 and a Nissan Armada. I noticed that we were spending more and more on gas. A year later, we traded in the Armada (under lease with 3 months left) for the 2008 Lexus RX400h. I got a sweet deal on the trade since gas prices started to skyrocket and we were a little upside down but the Lexus dealer gave us a steal on the hybrid.

Like you said, the hybrid had an immediate payoff. Not to mention, you can get a $3000 tax deduction for buying a hybrid. The price difference between the regular RX350 and the RX400h is about $4000 so the choice was clear. The non hybrid gets 17 mpg while the hybrid gets 27 mpg. Do the math. We didn't need a big ol' SUV anymore so the RX400h was a perfect choice for us (3 kids) and it obviously was more luxurious than the Armada.

Right now, dealers can't even give away big trucks and SUVs because of high gas prices. Hybrids are in serious demand.

As for battery technology, yes replacement batteries will cost a lot but in 8 years (Lexus battery warranty is 8 years), like anything else, it will be a whole lot cheaper and the technology will be better. This arguement of higher cost on hybrids is a moot point to me.

As of now, I am LOVIN my M5 but I envy my wife's Lexus at times. If you are looking for a hybrid, there is no comparison the Lexus RX400h...PRICE, PERFORMANCE, QUALITY, LUXURY, EFFICIENCY, and DRIVING EXPERIENCE. Additionally, you get the most advance Navigation system of any car maker. Lexus's Navigation System leaves BMW's in the dust.

I might sound like a Lexus salesman but I am not...I just love my Lexus hybrid. If you get one, it is a very nice complement to the Beast.

Come on BMW, M5 Hybrid sounds good right about now...

-Mike
 

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Yeah, it's definitely a matter of perspective. I like the articles that compare like to like, for example, a civic to a civic hybrid. That helps to isolate the hybrid related variables a little, and keep the analysis more focused.

For example, this first article, compares a altima hybrid to an regular altima, and the hybrid looks good. I'm not anti-hybrid, it's just there is a lot of information out there. Always good to get a bunch from both sides.

http://blog.wired.com/cars/2007/01/economics_favor.html

http://www.macleans.ca/article.jsp?content=20051205_116965_116965

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB119335110403372123.html?mod=blog

http://www.newcarpark.com/blog/?p=68
 

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After is sold my 2002 M3, I picked up my 2008 M5 and in my family, we had 2 gas guzzling machines, a M5 and a Nissan Armada. I noticed that we were spending more and more on gas. A year later, we traded in the Armada (under lease with 3 months left) for the 2008 Lexus RX400h. I got a sweet deal on the trade since gas prices started to skyrocket and we were a little upside down but the Lexus dealer gave us a steal on the hybrid.

Like you said, the hybrid had an immediate payoff. Not to mention, you can get a $3000 tax deduction for buying a hybrid. The price difference between the regular RX350 and the RX400h is about $4000 so the choice was clear. The non hybrid gets 17 mpg while the hybrid gets 27 mpg. Do the math. We didn't need a big ol' SUV anymore so the RX400h was a perfect choice for us (3 kids) and it obviously was more luxurious than the Armada.

Right now, dealers can't even give away big trucks and SUVs because of high gas prices. Hybrids are in serious demand.

As for battery technology, yes replacement batteries will cost a lot but in 8 years (Lexus battery warranty is 8 years), like anything else, it will be a whole lot cheaper and the technology will be better. This arguement of higher cost on hybrids is a moot point to me.

As of now, I am LOVIN my M5 but I envy my wife's Lexus at times. If you are looking for a hybrid, there is no comparison the Lexus RX400h...PRICE, PERFORMANCE, QUALITY, LUXURY, EFFICIENCY, and DRIVING EXPERIENCE. Additionally, you get the most advance Navigation system of any car maker. Lexus's Navigation System leaves BMW's in the dust.

I might sound like a Lexus salesman but I am not...I just love my Lexus hybrid. If you get one, it is a very nice complement to the Beast.

Come on BMW, M5 Hybrid sounds good right about now...

-Mike
An M5 hybrid? Look, just go with a 535d import if you want performance and mileage. Or an LS600 if you want a hybrid with big power and the consequent poor mileage despite all its green aspirations.

People are still buying big trucks. LX570s are tough to get and I'm waiting on MY09 LX570, already given the dealer my spec.

The environment is most at risk by the filthy buses in this town and fifteen year old pick ups and econo-boxes crawling around.

Sure, I care about the environment and I recycle, and watch my electrical and water consumption. However, cars are my passion so I'll never take a 528i when I can get the M5 and I'll never take the RX400h when I can take a proper rock crawler like the LX570.

If diesels weren't penalised with high prices the I'd go that route but then we don't get any of the great oil burners that they have in Europe. T-bones info the M5 will become a little more "green" is good but ultimately the M5 will always fly in the face of MPG-campaigns.
 

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