I think we'd all like to see (and hear) the video Warren :byebye:warrenatc said:Spie, I test drove the hartge M5 with their exhaust and it sounded great, deeper tone, not so raspy but still that hint of "race" sound when you revved the gas. I will e-mail you the vid clip tonight when I am off work I have of it at idle and one during acceleration so you can compare to your stock to see what you think. Warren