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Does anyone have an opinion or experience of Pagid brake products. I noticed they list disks and pads (non floating) for the e34 for around £260. (i'm assuming that's for a pair) Pads seem reasonable as well @ £40 ish.
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p.s. whilst searching for some Nurburg videos I found some on the board in the track and racing forum, worth checking out if you haven't already.:cool:
 

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German, original equipment manufacturers for BMW and others. It should be good stuff. At least as good as original though I've limited experience. My local German car specialist holds an agency and he's fussy.....
 

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ECM, thanks for the info. Have you per chance priced any stuff with your local guy, I was looking at 6 groove disks with fast road pads @ motorsportworld.co.uk. The pagid 'RS' pad range looks interesting but price is £100 - £160 depending on spec.

cheers,
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German, original equipment manufacturers for BMW and others. It should be good stuff. At least as good as original though I've limited experience. My local German car specialist holds an agency and he's fussy.....
 

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They certainly wouldn't stock stuff like that but you could give them a go. I guess he'd need a part number or something else to go on.

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Motorsportworld look reasonably competitive. I just bought a set of Mintex pads from Questmead which cost me £97 wholesale. The same items from Motorsportworld are £110.
 

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Thanks for the details, I may give them a call in the new year, just hade a new set of S03's fitted (reasonable £402 all in, 17'') so took the oppertunity to look at the stoppers, I would say pads a half worn, disks look ok so hopefully last a couple of months.
That Questmead place sound's interesting, I'll have a look see what they've got, if their on the net.

Are we Scottish owners going to get a track day going or attend the the spring meet @ the ring or something, I recall our chat re trackday / meet up seemed to frizzle out.
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I have used Pagid pads alround for 3 yrs. Nothing you can sensibly do in an M5 on the road will fade them. The Nurburgring however finds them getting getting a little hot under the collar on a hot day... !

Good value for money & the compound used for such a heavy car means they have some bite from cold that a true intermediate track pad sometimes lacks.

Worth a look IMHO.

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Sounds like 'BIG' money. You should be able to get a decent discount from your local BMW dealer for those Discs? I think they come in at around £67 each?

I recently paid £245 inc VAT for the larger 345x32 'floating' discs (ATE) and the Textar pads. (25% and 20% discount respectively)

I couldn't find any listings other than OE BMW for the pads.

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Does anyone have an opinion or experience of Pagid brake products. I noticed they list disks and pads (non floating) for the e34 for around £260. (i'm assuming that's for a pair) Pads seem reasonable as well @ £40 ish.
Cheers,
Phil.
p.s. whilst searching for some Nurburg videos I found some on the board in the track and racing forum, worth checking out if you haven't already.:cool:
 

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I couldn't find any listings other than OE BMW for the pads.
Mintex do them (see the motorsportworld link above) but only in the fairly agressive M1155 compound and I have yet to see if they fit and what like they are from cold!! I would have prefered the lesser M1144's but it was no go.

From the above site it would appear the same pads are used for the 750iL and the 850CSi.........
 

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I'll see if they are the same dimensions ........ They are the same pad, same part number (Textar). Would they be available in the lesser M1144 compound?


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Mintex do them (see the motorsportworld link above) but only in the fairly agressive M1155 compound and I have yet to see if they fit and what like they are from cold!! I would have prefered the lesser M1144's but it was no go.

From the above site it would appear the same pads are used for the 750iL and the 850CSi.........
 

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The impression I get is that Mintex Racing make these pads to order. They laser cut the back plates then bond on the compound of choice. The application listing on the Motorsportworld site is basically a history of what they've done so it would appear none have been asked for in the past.....though I'm sure I did but maybe it was lost somewhere in the order process.

For interest here's the spec for M1144, M1155 and M1166
 

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Brian, the last time I looked at ECP website I noticed they listed Disk's / Pads from ATE and Textar but checking yesterday they didn't come up. Interesting that you have fitted the larger floating disk's, did that not require some other parts such as new caliper carrier's and calipers? I will check out the dealer price's but when I mentioned the price for the pagid stuff I was bearing in mind the brembo / ap alternatives.:eek:

cheers,
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Sounds like 'BIG' money. You should be able to get a decent discount from your local BMW dealer for those Discs? I think they come in at around £67 each?

I recently paid £245 inc VAT for the larger 345x32 'floating' discs (ATE) and the Textar pads. (25% and 20% discount respectively)

I couldn't find any listings other than OE BMW for the pads.

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Hi Phil

I managed to get the whole front axle for a '95 car. I used the callipers on my car, makes a big difference over the stock ones. (They kept warping so I fitted some 'Black Diamond' Cross/Drilled with EBC Greenstuff pads. They warped, but the dealer replaced them and I stuck EBC Redstuff in which worked, but got very very hot, melted the wear sensor cable. Wouldn't use/recommend either product on our M5s).


'London Mike' had the steering box and EDC struts fitted to his 3.8. Worked out well for both of us.


The Textar pads I have at present work well but are very dusty, hence the interest in any other pads.

Let us know if you have any luck in sourcing other pads.

Cheers

Brian




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Brian, the last time I looked at ECP website I noticed they listed Disk's / Pads from ATE and Textar but checking yesterday they didn't come up. Interesting that you have fitted the larger floating disk's, did that not require some other parts such as new caliper carrier's and calipers? I will check out the dealer price's but when I mentioned the price for the pagid stuff I was bearing in mind the brembo / ap alternatives.:eek:

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Brian, I like the sound of the pagid rs pads, whether they are available for M5's or not I dont know, but as mentioned earlier they are not cheap.
My mates old man who used to race a F2 car and has a caterham at the moment, mentioned one time about fitting a race spec pad on one side and a standard road pad on the other (per caliper) but I can't see how that would work any better than 2 standard pads, seeing as anything is only as strong / good as its weakest point. Also - as your car is the same year as mine can you tell me if you have an EDC switch and / or dash warning light for EDC. I am not sure if mine has EDC or not. Cheers,
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Farrell, what spec of disk and pad are you using, is it the grooved disks / rs pads, or standard O.E. Pagid set up??

cheers,
Phil.
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I have used Pagid pads alround for 3 yrs. Nothing you can sensibly do in an M5 on the road will fade them. The Nurburgring however finds them getting getting a little hot under the collar on a hot day... !

Good value for money & the compound used for such a heavy car means they have some bite from cold that a true intermediate track pad sometimes lacks.

Worth a look IMHO.

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Im using M5 std discs with Pagid Fast road pads alround available to order from German Swedish & French.
I use dot 5 synthetic Brake fluid.
The std discs if fitted to a clean flat hub face are good durable items.
I find that the aftermarket discs although very pretty with lots of go faster deglazing grooves are not up to the std of the OE stuff if fitted right.

The std pads are the weak point (& very dusty !) but they give good response from cold.

With regard to Brake upgrades I feel there are only a couple of choices here & that is the floating disc / 4 pot set up of the 94MY 6 speed M5 or an AP Racing system with discs & calipers.
Beware of race systems without dust seals for the caliper pistons which are not an option for the road IMHO.

I am using the cost effective option but I do covet the floating disc / caliper setup......

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Hi Phil

All 3.8s have EDC, mine and yours included. The later models had the switch, enabling them to stick it on sport/hard all the time.

Cheers

Brian


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Brian, I like the sound of the pagid rs pads, whether they are available for M5's or not I dont know, but as mentioned earlier they are not cheap.
My mates old man who used to race a F2 car and has a caterham at the moment, mentioned one time about fitting a race spec pad on one side and a standard road pad on the other (per caliper) but I can't see how that would work any better than 2 standard pads, seeing as anything is only as strong / good as its weakest point. Also - as your car is the same year as mine can you tell me if you have an EDC switch and / or dash warning light for EDC. I am not sure if mine has EDC or not. Cheers,
Phil.
 
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